2017 NBA DRAFT Part 3

[RiotPunch]

I think Jeanne is pretty overrated.

Well what do you know anyway?!

[Baddy Chuck]

I think Jeanne is pretty overrated.

Well what do you know anyway?!

True, I liked Cornelie last year.

[sdn40]

Another big man video showing point guard skills

Welcome to today's NBA.

Thank God they showed 18 dunks - all my concerns are answered.
Who makes those videos anyway ? They are useless.

[Fotis St]

Whether we like it or not modern NBA 5 lives at the perimeter on offense... doing high pick n rolls, pick n pops. All coaches want the lanes free so the most talented players have room to operate.

Our beloved Bucks has one superstar who demands that, so I am happy if the Bucks draft Stretch 5s or 5s who can push the pace grabbing the rebound and can put the ball down to initiate offense, or pass it to transition runners.

Defensively they have to be mobile to guard the high pick n roll all teams use heavily. That only cuts down alot of old school 5s like Monroe etc.

[RiotPunch]

I think Jeanne is pretty overrated.

Well what do you know anyway?!

True, I liked Cornelie last year.

Ha. Me too. Hope we hire a guy that can make the right call.

[Badgerlander]

Well what do you know anyway?!

True, I liked Cornelie last year.

Ha. Me too. Hope we hire a guy that can make the right call.

Big difference in risk in Cornelie at #53 and Jeanne at #17 (especially considering that we sold #38). Of course Jeanne has better length and athleticism to put him in the lotto picture I'm just saying Cornelie was always ranked as a second rounder, and I liked him too so crap lol

[skones]

True, I liked Cornelie last year.

Ha. Me too. Hope we hire a guy that can make the right call.

Big difference in risk in Cornelie at #53 and Jeanne at #17 (especially considering that we sold #38). Of course Jeanne has better length and athleticism to put him in the lotto picture I'm just saying Cornelie was always ranked as a second rounder, and I liked him too so crap lol

To be fair, I don't think anyone saw Cornelie's shooting to drop off a cliff like it did. The difference between him and Jeanne, however, is that Cornelie actually had a track record of shooting. Jeanne doesn't. Poor shooting from the stripe and poor numbers from behind the arc, his shooting feels completely overstated.

If you're taking Jeanne at 17, you need to be confident in his defensive abilities over all else.

[Ron Swanson]

My issue with Jeanne is, what makes people think that he's actually going to be able to "stretch" the floor in the NBA? I think his mechanics are ok, but if he's still a sub-30% guy from 3PT, then you sure as hell don't want him taking those shots and killing your offense. And if he can't do that, what else is left? A 7'2 string bean who's an average athlete and forced to bang against guys twice his size?

[Badgerlander]

Ha. Me too. Hope we hire a guy that can make the right call.

Big difference in risk in Cornelie at #53 and Jeanne at #17 (especially considering that we sold #38). Of course Jeanne has better length and athleticism to put him in the lotto picture I'm just saying Cornelie was always ranked as a second rounder, and I liked him too so crap lol

To be fair, I don't think anyone saw Cornelie's shooting to drop off a cliff like it did. The difference between him and Jeanne, however, is that Cornelie actually had a track record of shooting. Jeanne doesn't. Poor shooting from the stripe and poor numbers from behind the arc, his shooting feels completely overstated.

If you're taking Jeanne at 17, you need to be confident in his defensive abilities over all else.

I'm not a Jeanne fan actually but

Defensively, Jeanne doesn't really know what he's doing, but was extremely effective nevertheless by virtue of his mobility and freakish reach, changing everything around the basket in rim-protection situations, and being impossible to shoot over in the post. He struggles to hold his ground at times versus older players, and posted a sky high ten fouls in 47 minutes of total action, something that will likely always be an issue until his frame continues to fill out. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/nba-combine-competitive-action-recap-day-two-5929/ ©DraftExpress

you are drafting him pretty much on length, feet and agility, hoping that you can mold him into something useful. I was just saying that taking a flier on a Cornelie with our second pick in the second round last year and him busting would've been pretty easy to deal with compared to Thon busting.

[Ron Swanson]

Kobi Simmons is an interesting guy in the 2nd round. He's got definite 1st round talent, but he's just so raw and lacks a lot of intangible qualities. Could be a swing-for-the-fences type guy at #48 where you could stick him in the D-league for his 1st and maybe even 2nd year.

[M-C-G]

Kobi Simmons is an interesting guy in the 2nd round. He's got definite 1st round talent, but he's just so raw and lacks a lot of intangible qualities. Could be a swing-for-the-fences type guy at #48 where you could stick him in the D-league for his 1st and maybe even 2nd year.

My concern with him, looking solely at the scouting reports, he doesn't seem to be improving like you would be expecting for a 20 year old (still really young, but that is where you want to see more development)...It's the same concern I have with Rabb. If Kobi went back to school, I feel like you'd find more holes than we already know about.

[Ruzious]

Have this annoying feeling Jason Smith is going to be the Myles Turner of this draft, another super talented big who is a bit underappreciated will be just a bit out of our range. I wish we could trade up for him but the only pieces that'd do it are the pieces I have no interest in trading.

I'm hoping he falls just within enough reach of trading 17 and a future 1st to move up. Definitely not gonna happen, but crazier things have happened.

I'd def give up another 1st for him. Problem is he's the type of talent who you get him in a gym for individual workouts and he could put on an absolute show. Like a lesser version of the "oh ****" moment when teams saw Porzingis work out. He might slip a bit but some team is going to fall in love with his skill set and it'll be extremely tough to convince them to trade him away.

I must be missing something - Who is Jason Smith?

[machu46]

I'm hoping he falls just within enough reach of trading 17 and a future 1st to move up. Definitely not gonna happen, but crazier things have happened.

I'd def give up another 1st for him. Problem is he's the type of talent who you get him in a gym for individual workouts and he could put on an absolute show. Like a lesser version of the "oh ****" moment when teams saw Porzingis work out. He might slip a bit but some team is going to fall in love with his skill set and it'll be extremely tough to convince them to trade him away.

I must be missing something - Who is Jason Smith?

Zach Collins. It's a running joke because a poster basically said Collins can't be better than Jason Smith solely because he's white.

[FrieAaron]

I didn't get it either. I would totally trade up for Collins, but think he's a top 10 pick (9 or 10) so the price may be steep.

[Ron Swanson]

If I'm trading up for anybody, it's Donovan Mitchell, not Zach Collins.

[Fotis St]

This draft has a "Henson" and an "MCW"...

I revealed in previous post that "Henson" is Jarret Allen

Find MCW if you can

[Badgerlander]

Read on Twitter

Quinton Hooker, Canyon Barry, and Michael Ojo leading my UDFA list atm

[Rockmaninoff]

If I'm trading up for anybody, it's Donovan Mitchell, not Zach Collins.

Rather than Jason Smith, I'm going to start calling him Shaq Collins with the way people talk about him here.

[Ron Swanson]

Kobi Simmons is an interesting guy in the 2nd round. He's got definite 1st round talent, but he's just so raw and lacks a lot of intangible qualities. Could be a swing-for-the-fences type guy at #48 where you could stick him in the D-league for his 1st and maybe even 2nd year.

My concern with him, looking solely at the scouting reports, he doesn't seem to be improving like you would be expecting for a 20 year old (still really young, but that is where you want to see more development)...It's the same concern I have with Rabb. If Kobi went back to school, I feel like you'd find more holes than we already know about.

Oh his bust potential is certainly pretty sky high. He's got a lot of Tony Wroten written all over him. But with the 48th pick in the draft? I can easily take that chance on a 6'4, athletic PG who I pray can find his jumpshot in the D-league.

[Fotis St]

Badgerlander has class ... wow, he already has an Undrafted FA list