2017 NBA DRAFT Part 3

[M-C-G]

Maybe Donoval Mitchell will be there too.

Khris for Tobias + Baynes #12

That's not enough. I'd ask for them to take Henson and give Stanley Johnson instead of Baynes and a 2019 top 10 protected 1st.

I'm asking for the moon if I'm trading Khris and only moving up to the 12th spot, where theoretically, the draft drops off just before that selection. #12, Stanley Johnson, future pick unprotected or lightly protected is a start.

If you are trading Middleton, I think you need to get in to that top 7 territory, plus have goodies coming back. Because the moment you do that, you are setting this team back a year or two...if it is two years, Parker can't stay healthy and this pick doesn't turn out to be as good as Khris, you are seriously risking losing Giannis

[Gam]

That's not enough. I'd ask for them to take Henson and give Stanley Johnson instead of Baynes and a 2019 top 10 protected 1st.

I'm asking for the moon if I'm trading Khris and only moving up to the 12th spot, where theoretically, the draft drops off just before that selection. #12, Stanley Johnson, future pick unprotected or lightly protected is a start.

If you are trading Middleton, I think you need to get in to that top 7 territory, plus have goodies coming back. Because the moment you do that, you are setting this team back a year or two...if it is two years, Parker can't stay healthy and this pick doesn't turn out to be as good as Khris, you are seriously risking losing Giannis

Harris is a pretty sizable asset too though. He's only 24, his contract is decreasing and under team control just as long as Middleton's. He's an efficient scorer, versatile, good rebounder, and a decent defender. I think 2 first round picks and a high potential reclamation project in SJ and a dump of Henson's hemorrhoid of a contract makes it worth it. Maybe make that 2019 pick I mentioned unprotected. I would ask for their 2nd rounder this year (DEEEEEEP draft), but they don't have one.

And to be clear that wouldn't be my opening offer, that would be as low as I'd be willing to go.

[M-C-G]

I'm asking for the moon if I'm trading Khris and only moving up to the 12th spot, where theoretically, the draft drops off just before that selection. #12, Stanley Johnson, future pick unprotected or lightly protected is a start.

If you are trading Middleton, I think you need to get in to that top 7 territory, plus have goodies coming back. Because the moment you do that, you are setting this team back a year or two...if it is two years, Parker can't stay healthy and this pick doesn't turn out to be as good as Khris, you are seriously risking losing Giannis

Harris is a pretty sizable asset too though. He's only 24, his contract is decreasing and under team control just as long as Middleton's he's an efficient scorer, good rebounder, and a decent defender. I think 2 first round picks and a high potential reclamation project in SJ and a dump of Henson's hemorrhoid of a contract makes it worth it. Maybe make that 2019 pick I mentioned unprotected. I would ask for their 2nd rounder this year (DEEEEEEP draft), but they don't have one.

And to be clear that wouldn't be my opening offer, that would be as low as I'd be willing to go.

I'm not seeing it with Harris. He is on his third team and was just traded for two expiring contracts. I don't think that he is a valuable piece

[Matches Malone]

If you are trading Middleton, I think you need to get in to that top 7 territory, plus have goodies coming back. Because the moment you do that, you are setting this team back a year or two...if it is two years, Parker can't stay healthy and this pick doesn't turn out to be as good as Khris, you are seriously risking losing Giannis

Harris is a pretty sizable asset too though. He's only 24, his contract is decreasing and under team control just as long as Middleton's he's an efficient scorer, good rebounder, and a decent defender. I think 2 first round picks and a high potential reclamation project in SJ and a dump of Henson's hemorrhoid of a contract makes it worth it. Maybe make that 2019 pick I mentioned unprotected. I would ask for their 2nd rounder this year (DEEEEEEP draft), but they don't have one.

And to be clear that wouldn't be my opening offer, that would be as low as I'd be willing to go.

I'm not seeing it with Harris. He is on his third team and was just traded for two expiring contracts. I don't think that he is a valuable piece

Maybe you could just trick Van Gundy with a Henson or Mirza for #12 (Pipe-dream). Everyone knows the draft get's mediocre after the 10th-11th pick, so the asking price might not be as high as we think it is. Stranger things have happened.

[Gam]

Harris is a pretty sizable asset too though. He's only 24, his contract is decreasing and under team control just as long as Middleton's he's an efficient scorer, good rebounder, and a decent defender. I think 2 first round picks and a high potential reclamation project in SJ and a dump of Henson's hemorrhoid of a contract makes it worth it. Maybe make that 2019 pick I mentioned unprotected. I would ask for their 2nd rounder this year (DEEEEEEP draft), but they don't have one.

And to be clear that wouldn't be my opening offer, that would be as low as I'd be willing to go.

I'm not seeing it with Harris. He is on his third team and was just traded for two expiring contracts. I don't think that he is a valuable piece

Maybe you could just trick Van Gundy with a Henson or Mirza for #12 (Pipe-dream). Everyone knows the draft get's mediocre after the 10th-11th pick, so the asking price might not be as high as we think it is. Stranger things have happened.

Good god, that'd get him fired on the spot.

[Matches Malone]

I'm not seeing it with Harris. He is on his third team and was just traded for two expiring contracts. I don't think that he is a valuable piece

Maybe you could just trick Van Gundy with a Henson or Mirza for #12 (Pipe-dream). Everyone knows the draft get's mediocre after the 10th-11th pick, so the asking price might not be as high as we think it is. Stranger things have happened.

Good god, that'd get him fired on the spot.

Maybe if we package our 17 pick. But you're right, he's probably not THAT dumb.

[M-C-G]

Harris is a pretty sizable asset too though. He's only 24, his contract is decreasing and under team control just as long as Middleton's he's an efficient scorer, good rebounder, and a decent defender. I think 2 first round picks and a high potential reclamation project in SJ and a dump of Henson's hemorrhoid of a contract makes it worth it. Maybe make that 2019 pick I mentioned unprotected. I would ask for their 2nd rounder this year (DEEEEEEP draft), but they don't have one.

And to be clear that wouldn't be my opening offer, that would be as low as I'd be willing to go.

I'm not seeing it with Harris. He is on his third team and was just traded for two expiring contracts. I don't think that he is a valuable piece

Maybe you could just trick Van Gundy with a Henson or Mirza for #12 (Pipe-dream). Everyone knows the draft get's mediocre after the 10th-11th pick, so the asking price might not be as high as we think it is. Stranger things have happened.

If you are looking to get up in to this draft, I think Hammond would be pretty interested in acquiring Middleton. I just don't think we have anything of interest to Detroit that we would actually trade (I wouldn't want to trade any of Parker, Thon, Brog, Giannis)

[Gam]

If you are trading Middleton, I think you need to get in to that top 7 territory, plus have goodies coming back. Because the moment you do that, you are setting this team back a year or two...if it is two years, Parker can't stay healthy and this pick doesn't turn out to be as good as Khris, you are seriously risking losing Giannis

Harris is a pretty sizable asset too though. He's only 24, his contract is decreasing and under team control just as long as Middleton's he's an efficient scorer, good rebounder, and a decent defender. I think 2 first round picks and a high potential reclamation project in SJ and a dump of Henson's hemorrhoid of a contract makes it worth it. Maybe make that 2019 pick I mentioned unprotected. I would ask for their 2nd rounder this year (DEEEEEEP draft), but they don't have one.

And to be clear that wouldn't be my opening offer, that would be as low as I'd be willing to go.

I'm not seeing it with Harris. He is on his third team and was just traded for two expiring contracts. I don't think that he is a valuable piece

All I know is that he puts up good box score numbers, solid advanced stats and has a team friendly contract. I definitely haven't watched enough of him recently to make a fully informed decision and me might be a locker-room cancer or whatever, but that's not information I'm privy too. On paper it seems to be a solid deal for the Bucks.

[Badgerlander]

Why the hell would anyone want to trade Middleton? Did everyone forget that he is the reason we even made the playoffs?

[Matches Malone]

I'm not seeing it with Harris. He is on his third team and was just traded for two expiring contracts. I don't think that he is a valuable piece

Maybe you could just trick Van Gundy with a Henson or Mirza for #12 (Pipe-dream). Everyone knows the draft get's mediocre after the 10th-11th pick, so the asking price might not be as high as we think it is. Stranger things have happened.

If you are looking to get up in to this draft, I think Hammond would be pretty interested in acquiring Middleton. I just don't think we have anything of interest to Detroit that we would actually trade (I wouldn't want to trade any of Parker, Thon, Brog, Giannis)

Personally, I don't think you would necessarily need to include a Parker, Thon, Brogdon, Giannis to move up to the 12th selection. I think a package centered around 17 and something could entice them. I just don't know what they really could get fetch back in a trade that is really going to help them. That 12th pick is in no mans land (first pick where the draft drops off).

[M-C-G]

Why the hell would anyone want to trade Middleton? Did everyone forget that he is the reason we even made the playoffs?

Personally, I don't want to trade Middleton, but the discussion was around trying to get up in the draft. My thought is that if you really wanted a guy, he is the one that is going to get you a high pick plus other assets (late first, seconds, players).

[Badgerlander]

Why the hell would anyone want to trade Middleton? Did everyone forget that he is the reason we even made the playoffs?

Personally, I don't want to trade Middleton, but the discussion was around trying to get up in the draft. My thought is that if you really wanted a guy, he is the one that is going to get you a high pick plus other assets (late first, seconds, players).

but the 12th pick isnt any better than the 17th

[M-C-G]

Why the hell would anyone want to trade Middleton? Did everyone forget that he is the reason we even made the playoffs?

Personally, I don't want to trade Middleton, but the discussion was around trying to get up in the draft. My thought is that if you really wanted a guy, he is the one that is going to get you a high pick plus other assets (late first, seconds, players).

but the 12th pick isnt any better than the 17th

I'm not talking about trading him to Detroit. If I am moving Middleton I want at least Orlando's pick, a late first or multiple seconds and some useful players coming back.

[Swan Vox]

I have to say, I know that there are exceptions like Giannis, but I am finding it difficult this year to get excited about the draft & where we are picking. I'm seeing a whole lot of "meh" at our position in the draft. So much easier to get amped up and spend the time researching when you have a Top 10 pick. Hopefully the guys getting paid to do this feel differently than I do.

[Gam]

I have to say, I know that there are exceptions like Giannis, but I am finding it difficult this year to get excited about the draft & where we are picking. I'm seeing a whole lot of "meh" at our position in the draft. So much easier to get amped up and spend the time researching when you have a Top 10 pick. Hopefully the guys getting paid to do this feel differently than I do.

If there was any draft in the last 20 years to get excited about picking 17 I think this is the one to do it.

[M-C-G]

I have to say, I know that there are exceptions like Giannis, but I am finding it difficult this year to get excited about the draft & where we are picking. I'm seeing a whole lot of "meh" at our position in the draft. So much easier to get amped up and spend the time researching when you have a Top 10 pick. Hopefully the guys getting paid to do this feel differently than I do.

If there was any draft in the last 20 years to get excited about picking 17 I think this is the one to do it.

17 is the new 7

[HurricaneKid]

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If only we had guys to offer... Zach Collins could be in play

sucks having the 12th pick in an 11 player draft

I feel its pretty definitively an 8 person draft.

[Swan Vox]

I have to say, I know that there are exceptions like Giannis, but I am finding it difficult this year to get excited about the draft & where we are picking. I'm seeing a whole lot of "meh" at our position in the draft. So much easier to get amped up and spend the time researching when you have a Top 10 pick. Hopefully the guys getting paid to do this feel differently than I do.

If there was any draft in the last 20 years to get excited about picking 17 I think this is the one to do it.

I keep hearing this draft is deep, but I have to be honest and say that personally I haven't put the time in this year. A few names stand out, (i.e. Giles, Hartenstein, etc), but the only Giannis-like potential homerun pick seems to be the guy coming off multiple knee surgeries. That scares the begeezus out of me. Not sure I'd have the stones to go through with it. I'm interested to hear who I should get excited about if you guys are willing to enlighten me. ; )

[Badgerlander]

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If only we had guys to offer... Zach Collins could be in play

sucks having the 12th pick in an 11 player draft

I feel its pretty definitively an 8 person draft.

true the Kings do have 2 picks in the top 10

[freewhitemoon]

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If only we had guys to offer... Zach Collins could be in play

sucks having the 12th pick in an 11 player draft

All it takes is a team to reach and Collins can fall into your lap at 12th

Teams from 7th to 11th also dont need a C