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Bucks 2017 Draft Pick #48 select

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The Milwaukee Bucks with the #48 2017 NBA Draft pick select ...

Frank Mason
14
18%
Tyler Dorsey
32
40%
Devin Robinson
2
3%
Monte Morris
5
6%
Cameron Oliver
3
4%
Dwayne Bacon
5
6%
Wesley Iwundu
5
6%
Sindarius Thornwell
8
10%
Nigel Williams-Goss
4
5%
Jaron Blossomgame
2
3%
 
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Re: Bucks 2017 Draft Pick #48 select 

Post#41 » by Fotis St » Tue May 30, 2017 9:10 pm

Rabb is the highest rated of the players listed, currently ranked as the 25th best prospect by Draft Express and 24th by ESPN’s Chad Ford. He is a long, athletic big man known for his work on the boards and his ability to protect the rim. He averaged 14.0 points and 10.5 rebounds as a sophomore at Cal last year.

Dorsey is a combo guard, currently viewed as a potential second-round pick. He averaged 14.7 points while shooting 42.4 percent from three-point range for the Ducks last season. He really stepped it up during Oregon’s Final Four run, averaging 23.8 points in five tournament games while shooting 59.7 percent from the field and a ridiculous 60.6 percent from three-point range.


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Re: Bucks 2017 Draft Pick #48 select 

Post#42 » by machu46 » Tue May 30, 2017 9:11 pm

Have It All wrote:I'm not sure what people like about Frank Mason so much.


Not all of these reasons are good, but:
- NCAA player of the year
- very good shooter
- very good ball handler
- plays hard defensively
- good athlete

Obviously the size is a major concern with him and the age doesn't help, but this is a 2nd round pick in the back half of the 2nd round we're talking about here. You're at least getting a guy that you know can handle the ball, shoot the ball, will try hard, and isn't an inferior athlete. That's pretty much as good a prospect as you'll find at that point in the draft.
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Re: Bucks 2017 Draft Pick #48 select 

Post#43 » by M-C-G » Tue May 30, 2017 9:22 pm

machu46 wrote:
Have It All wrote:I'm not sure what people like about Frank Mason so much.


Not all of these reasons are good, but:
- NCAA player of the year
- very good shooter
- very good ball handler
- plays hard defensively
- good athlete

Obviously the size is a major concern with him and the age doesn't help, but this is a 2nd round pick in the back half of the 2nd round we're talking about here. You're at least getting a guy that you know can handle the ball, shoot the ball, will try hard, and isn't an inferior athlete. That's pretty much as good a prospect as you'll find at that point in the draft.


Yep, seemingly high character guy and if I remember Badgerlander's chart, he was an effective shooter at all three levels. That is a pretty good get that late in the draft.
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Re: Bucks 2017 Draft Pick #48 select 

Post#44 » by machu46 » Tue May 30, 2017 9:24 pm

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Have It All wrote:I'm not sure what people like about Frank Mason so much.


Not all of these reasons are good, but:
- NCAA player of the year
- very good shooter
- very good ball handler
- plays hard defensively
- good athlete

Obviously the size is a major concern with him and the age doesn't help, but this is a 2nd round pick in the back half of the 2nd round we're talking about here. You're at least getting a guy that you know can handle the ball, shoot the ball, will try hard, and isn't an inferior athlete. That's pretty much as good a prospect as you'll find at that point in the draft.


Yep, seemingly high character guy and if I remember Badgerlander's chart, he was an effective shooter at all three levels. That is a pretty good get that late in the draft.


He struggled around the rim I believe but was very good at the other two


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Re: Bucks 2017 Draft Pick #48 select 

Post#45 » by Badgerlander » Tue May 30, 2017 9:27 pm

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machu46 wrote:
Have It All wrote:I'm not sure what people like about Frank Mason so much.


Not all of these reasons are good, but:
- NCAA player of the year
- very good shooter
- very good ball handler
- plays hard defensively
- good athlete

Obviously the size is a major concern with him and the age doesn't help, but this is a 2nd round pick in the back half of the 2nd round we're talking about here. You're at least getting a guy that you know can handle the ball, shoot the ball, will try hard, and isn't an inferior athlete. That's pretty much as good a prospect as you'll find at that point in the draft.


Yep, seemingly high character guy and if I remember Badgerlander's chart, he was an effective shooter at all three levels. That is a pretty good get that late in the draft.

http://www.hoop-math.com/

Mason is only 56% at the rim, 4th worst on that chart, but basically he's a good player aside from being short
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Re: Bucks 2017 Draft Pick #48 select 

Post#46 » by M-C-G » Tue May 30, 2017 9:27 pm

machu46 wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
machu46 wrote:
Not all of these reasons are good, but:
- NCAA player of the year
- very good shooter
- very good ball handler
- plays hard defensively
- good athlete

Obviously the size is a major concern with him and the age doesn't help, but this is a 2nd round pick in the back half of the 2nd round we're talking about here. You're at least getting a guy that you know can handle the ball, shoot the ball, will try hard, and isn't an inferior athlete. That's pretty much as good a prospect as you'll find at that point in the draft.


Yep, seemingly high character guy and if I remember Badgerlander's chart, he was an effective shooter at all three levels. That is a pretty good get that late in the draft.


He struggled around the rim I believe but was very good at the other two


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Looks like he is a bit low, but the rest leaves a lot to like


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The best PGs can shoot at all 3 levels, at the rim, 2pt Jumpers, and 3s. This chart is sorted by number of 2pt Js. Notice stuff like Evans most shots at the rim but worst fg%, Ball highest fg% but fewest shots, etc.
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Re: Bucks 2017 Draft Pick #48 select 

Post#47 » by Badgerlander » Tue May 30, 2017 9:30 pm

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machu46 wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
Yep, seemingly high character guy and if I remember Badgerlander's chart, he was an effective shooter at all three levels. That is a pretty good get that late in the draft.


He struggled around the rim I believe but was very good at the other two


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Looks like he is a bit low, but the rest leaves a lot to like


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Badgerlander wrote:Fun with Hoop math

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The best PGs can shoot at all 3 levels, at the rim, 2pt Jumpers, and 3s. This chart is sorted by number of 2pt Js. Notice stuff like Evans most shots at the rim but worst fg%, Ball highest fg% but fewest shots, etc.


https://nbadraft.theringer.com/

has some nice if basic shot charts for every player too, and you can sort it by guards etc
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Re: Bucks 2017 Draft Pick #48 select 

Post#48 » by Ruzious » Tue May 30, 2017 9:37 pm

Badgerlander wrote:
Uhm you quoted the same exact article as I did, maybe you didnt read all of it?

Well, you didn't include the part that I did - which is the featured part on his player page.
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Re: Bucks 2017 Draft Pick #48 select 

Post#49 » by Badgerlander » Wed May 31, 2017 12:38 am

Ruzious wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:
Uhm you quoted the same exact article as I did, maybe you didnt read all of it?

Well, you didn't include the part that I did - which is the featured part on his player page.


Sorry, my bad
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Re: Bucks 2017 Draft Pick #48 select 

Post#50 » by Gianstoppable » Wed May 31, 2017 1:48 am

I am fine with Iwundu, Mason, Dorsey and Bolden

dont screw this up
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Bucks 2017 Draft Pick #48 select 

Post#51 » by M-C-G » Wed May 31, 2017 2:12 am

Gianstoppable wrote:I am fine with Iwundu, Mason, Dorsey and Bolden

dont screw this up


I think Iwundu is a lock to go to Orlando. Hammond second try at finding darrington Hobson that can make it in the NBA


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Re: Bucks 2017 Draft Pick #48 select 

Post#52 » by JEIS » Wed May 31, 2017 4:50 am

GFreak34 wrote:
AussieBuck wrote:Haven't heard of any of them so went with Blossomgame. Seems the obvious pick.



will be picked earlier than the #48 though



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Re: Bucks 2017 Draft Pick #48 select 

Post#53 » by streaky » Wed May 31, 2017 7:47 am

I watched Dorsey 2 years ago with the U19 national greek team in Crete.
Plus: Shooting (range, pull up and first step, no hesitation, creates his own shot), nice and smooth drive, good defense.
Minus: mediocre PG skills, speed, size.
It depends on what the coaching staff and FO is searching for.
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Re: Bucks 2017 Draft Pick #48 select 

Post#54 » by RiotPunch » Wed May 31, 2017 7:59 am

Gianstoppable wrote:I am fine with Iwundu, Mason, Dorsey and Bolden

dont screw this up

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Re: Bucks 2017 Draft Pick #48 select 

Post#55 » by Badgerlander » Wed May 31, 2017 1:33 pm

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its an insane comp with the video game numbers that Steph put up in college but I cant help but look at this an think Dorsey can play the point
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Post#56 » by crkone » Wed May 31, 2017 1:48 pm

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Post#57 » by Badgerlander » Wed May 31, 2017 2:01 pm

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Right but Curry's handles took a huge leap forward in the 2013-2015 offseasons, he put in the work.

here is a video of him reading his predraft scouting reports that talk about his need to improve his ball handling




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Post#58 » by Ron Swanson » Wed May 31, 2017 2:58 pm

I guess I could see the physical comparison if I felt that Dorsey was ever half the shooter/scorer that Curry, or even a guy like CJ McCollum was in college. Idk, I guess I just don't see his skill level, shooting, and intangibles as high as other people do.

I still like him as a prospect in the late-2nd, but projecting guys in that area of the draft who have to overcome their physical and athletic limitations is always tricky. There's definitely the success stories (Jokic, Redd). Steph Curry is (arguably) the most extreme case of this in the history of the NBA.
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Post#59 » by M-C-G » Wed May 31, 2017 3:05 pm

Ron Swanson wrote: There's definitely the success stories (Jokic, Redd). Steph Curry is (arguably) the most extreme case of this in the history of the NBA.


Every once in a while you see someone or something and you think, "if anyone ever sold their soul to the devil, it has to be that dude, right?"

Like one day I had never heard of Bruno Mars and then he was everywhere, all the time. Gangnam Style guy certainly got a lesser return for his soul, dude just wanted 15 minutes of fame. And then there is curious case of Steph Curry becoming the greatest shooter in NBA history.
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Post#60 » by Ron Swanson » Wed May 31, 2017 3:19 pm

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Ron Swanson wrote: There's definitely the success stories (Jokic, Redd). Steph Curry is (arguably) the most extreme case of this in the history of the NBA.


Every once in a while you see someone or something and you think, "if anyone ever sold their soul to the devil, it has to be that dude, right?"

Like one day I had never heard of Bruno Mars and then he was everywhere, all the time. Gangnam Style guy certainly got a lesser return for his soul, dude just wanted 15 minutes of fame. And then there is curious case of Steph Curry becoming the greatest shooter in NBA history.


One could say the same for Jokic in that he already might be one of the best passing Center's the league has ever seen. Which begs the question, how did he last all the way to the 40s in a draft without a whole lot of top-tier talent?

It's why I always cringe at the idea of "strength of draft class" and draft tiers in general. But it also highlights how difficult it is to project skill to the NBA level, perhaps even more so than athleticism. Ironically, you can make the argument that the raw athletes are safer picks than the highly skilled, physically deficient guys on average.

You look at a guy like Jokic, and wonder how the hell he's even able to run up and down a court without catching his breath. He's the exact opposite of a physical specimen, and I'm pretty sure the guy has like....."negative" muscle definition.

Jokic at 16 years old.... :lol:

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