2017 Draft Thread

[Neeva]

I don't think Isaac lasts until the 7th.

Weltman loves those long rangey upside guys and Isaac fits the bill.

Good let him be a bust for some other team.
I am telling you Smith, Monk and Fox will be the best players from this class,Wolves will regret passing up on Smith, if they do.

[Midw35t]

Watched some more Smith highlights.....a lot of flash! Got me thinking Smith and Towns could be the modern-day Marbury and Garnett....

Im a big fan of Smith and still am with Dunn. A rotation of Rubio, Smith, Dunn, LaVine, and Wiggins at the guard spots for at least the next two years is intriguing.

[Midw35t]

I remember lack of size is mainly why the Wolves passed on both Westbrook and Curry, past two NBA MVPS.
Smith has the athleticism to make it big in the league.

Well, Jonny Flynn was 3 inches shorter than Curry and only 15 lbs lighter and Westbrook was 6'2" but had a 6'7 wingspan so...don't know about that lack of size... But does Smith really want to win? Besides that Duke game, didn't really light it up the rest of the year and sometimes looked like he didn't want to win or even play. Athleticism can only get you so far.... if you can't shoot...Against GA tech, he took 5 3s when there were more than 20 secs left in the shot clock...not very smart...

Marbury actually seems like a pretty good comp for Smith.

The worry with Smith is his effort on the defensive end is apparently abysmal. With Thibs trying to change the culture of guys like Thibs, Wiggins, and Lavine to get them to focus on defensive, I have a hard time seeing him taking a guy with the same issue magnified x 3.

The guard defense effect is far overblown. Sure it is great to have two way players at those slots, but you better have modern defensive bigs at the 3,4, and 5 as well or you will just get switched on at the big stage. I'd prefer to target potential offensive stars at the 1 and 2 while targeting mobile defense with a passable offensive skill set at the 3,4, and 5.

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[Biggsohnasty]

Please don't be a smokescreen please don't be a smokescreen please don't be a smokescreen please...

[Crazy-Canuck]

if we take a point, wiggs better get on that lebron james/dwade steroid diet to bulk up because he will be playing quite a few minutes as a small ball 4. We'd probably giving up 130 ppg, but damn it would be fun to watch.

rubio
monk/dsj/nkitilna
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[Biggsohnasty]

Or the team could add a big wing in FA/trade and you basically have 5 guys for 3 spots in Rubio-Smith-Lavine-Wiggins-Unnamed SF

If you draft Smith/Nkitilna, they won't play 30 mpg next season. The idea would be to bring them along slowly in low-leverage minutes and as they prove they can take on more, they take on more. It's a long game play because the hope is that they would develop into a significant starter in a year or two when the team is further along or its contending window starts to open up a bit.

I think you can take a PG and live with said PG playing 16-20 mpg over the course of the season.

Though I do agree with your idea that Wiggins should bulk some so that he can play up to a PF spot in some instances. It'd be nice to have a host of wings that you can play together and cross match with defensive assignments if necessary. Wiggins needs to get stronger - there's no doubt about that.

[TwolvesFanRome]

I have fear of our draft history about PG.....

[minimus]

if we take a point, wiggs better get on that lebron james/dwade steroid diet to bulk up because he will be playing quite a few minutes as a small ball 4. We'd probably giving up 130 ppg, but damn it would be fun to watch.

I always forget about this steroid thing. We want Wiggins, LaVine to bulk up quickly but I doubt it will be possible next two years without steroids.

[titantron91]

Trade Zach Lavine, Jordan Hill, and Shabazz Muhammad and our 1st round pick for #3 pick and an SG

Draft Josh Jackson as the new starting SF
Move Wiggins to #2
Sign James Johnson and CJ Miles from free agency

PG: Rubio, Dunn, Tyus
SG: Wiggins, Miles, SG
SF: Jackson, Casspi, Rush
PF: Johnson, Dieng, Bjelica
C: Towns, Aldrich

[rugbyrugger23]

Trade Zach Lavine, Jordan Hill, and Shabazz Muhammad and our 1st round pick for #3 pick and an SG

Draft Josh Jackson as the new starting SF
Move Wiggins to #2
Sign James Johnson and CJ Miles from free agency

PG: Rubio, Dunn, Tyus
SG: Wiggins, Miles, SG
SF: Jackson, Casspi, Rush
PF: Johnson, Dieng, Bjelica
C: Towns, Aldrich

That is crazy bad. LaVine + to move up 4 spots? Please no.

[titantron91]

That is crazy bad. LaVine + to move up 4 spots? Please no.

LaVine has gotta go. Too many scorers. No versatile players other than Rubio and Towns.

Jackson will help the team more than LaVine will.

If it pains you to let Shabazz and Jordan Hill go, then try Lavine and our pick for 3rd pick and SG. Easy.

I dunno what's so hard about letting Bazz and Hill go. They both ass. Bazz is extra firepower but he sucks at D.

[Worm Guts]

That is crazy bad. LaVine + to move up 4 spots? Please no.

LaVine has gotta go. Too many scorers. No versatile players other than Rubio and Towns.

Jackson will help the team more than LaVine will.

If it pains you to let Shabazz and Jordan Hill go, then try Lavine and our pick for 3rd pick and SG. Easy.

I dunno what's so hard about letting Bazz and Hill go. They both ass. Bazz is extra firepower but he sucks at D.

I'm pretty sure no one cares about the Hill part, and we can't trade Shabazz, but it doesn't make any sense to give up Lavine to move up 4 spots. There's not that type of gap in talent in this draft.

[rugbyrugger23]

That is crazy bad. LaVine + to move up 4 spots? Please no.

LaVine has gotta go. Too many scorers. No versatile players other than Rubio and Towns.

Jackson will help the team more than LaVine will.

If it pains you to let Shabazz and Jordan Hill go, then try Lavine and our pick for 3rd pick and SG. Easy.

I dunno what's so hard about letting Bazz and Hill go. They both ass. Bazz is extra firepower but he sucks at D.

LaVine doesn't have to go. Wow crazy statement. Bottomline, his value is worth plenty more vs. moving up 4 spots. Not a debate really.

And who cares about Hill and Bazz -- I want Bazz to be gone.

[fattymcgee]

Am I the only guy here who would rather have LaVine than the #3 pick in the draft?

Even if you don't like LaVine, using him to move up 3 spots is beyond assinine. That package you mentioned should be enough to get Jimmy Butler.

[FinnTheHuman]

That is crazy bad. LaVine + to move up 4 spots? Please no.

LaVine has gotta go. Too many scorers. No versatile players other than Rubio and Towns.

Jackson will help the team more than LaVine will.

If it pains you to let Shabazz and Jordan Hill go, then try Lavine and our pick for 3rd pick and SG. Easy.

I dunno what's so hard about letting Bazz and Hill go. They both ass. Bazz is extra firepower but he sucks at D.

It's funny of how unaware you are of the Wolves situation. Nobody is in pain over Shabazz and Jordan Hill. In fact, Shabazz's contract expires this summer and we probably won't extend him, and I'm not sure Jordan Hill even stepped on the court for the Wolves this season, he's irrelevant.

What we do care about is Lavine tho. It's absurd to think we'd use him to move up 4 spots. He averaged 19 points on .575 TS% and he's by far our best 3pt shooter at 39% on 1.8 makes, and he's that on a team who has issues with spacing. I'd love to have your confidence when talking about things I know nothing about in a group of people, it can be a helpful skill.

[Biggsohnasty]

If it were Lavine straight up the 3rd pick I'd do that. Attaching the 7th pick to it though would be asinine.

[fattymcgee]

If it were Lavine straight up the 3rd pick I'd do that. Attaching the 7th pick to it though would be asinine.

Who would you take at #3 that you think would be better than LaVine?

[Biggsohnasty]

Josh Jackson

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