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kennydorglas wrote:Derrick White, Jordan Bell.
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carey wrote:It is 2-time, every time.
bwgood77 wrote:darealjuice wrote:
Solid group today, I like Semi with our second rounder if he's there and we don't go wing at #4. Jarrett Allen with an individual workout later too, wonder if we're thinking about going for another pick or if it's just due diligence?
Wesley Iwundu is interesting as well. As for Allen, it's probably good to work out everyone as you never know what kind of trades will pop up that day....could be something you are not anticipating at all so good to be ready for any scenario.
He really reminds a lot of Draymond Green with his raw power , amazing athletic ability and defensive versatility.His inhuman Strength also reminds somewhat of prime ben Wallace.
Saberestar wrote:
We need shooting too.
Defense and shooting are our biggest needs.
AtheJ415 wrote:I wonder if we will bring in Frank Jackson for a workout. Assuming Bledsoe is being considered for moves, he might be a good option in Round 2. This is a great PG draft, but he might be the only worthwhile one available by the time we get to pick 32, assuming pick 4 goes to one of the SFs.
bwgood77 wrote:AtheJ415 wrote:I wonder if we will bring in Frank Jackson for a workout. Assuming Bledsoe is being considered for moves, he might be a good option in Round 2. This is a great PG draft, but he might be the only worthwhile one available by the time we get to pick 32, assuming pick 4 goes to one of the SFs.
Frank Jackson doesn't pass though. He averaged 1.7 apg. I'm ready for a PG who passes more and would prefer one who can run the pick n roll like Jawun Evans.
cosmofizzo wrote:bwgood77 wrote:AtheJ415 wrote:I wonder if we will bring in Frank Jackson for a workout. Assuming Bledsoe is being considered for moves, he might be a good option in Round 2. This is a great PG draft, but he might be the only worthwhile one available by the time we get to pick 32, assuming pick 4 goes to one of the SFs.
Frank Jackson doesn't pass though. He averaged 1.7 apg. I'm ready for a PG who passes more and would prefer one who can run the pick n roll like Jawun Evans.
Isn't there someone on the roster already who fits this description, though?
I like Evans a lot and think he should go late first. I just don't think we're the team that should pick him. Best case scenario, we get a big and a third guard (or Jackson, if McD is satisfied that he is not another Stanley Johnson, Justise Winslow, bla bla bla).
From a physical perspective Iwundu definitely passes the eye test. At 6'7 with a plus wingspan (possibly around 7'1), and an excellent frame that will continue to fill out, Iwundu has the physical tools to play either wing position at the professional level, and has the athletic ability to match his physical profile. He moves fluidly in space, has a quick first step, gets off the floor well, and has the ability to finish above the rim. He has the upper body strength to finish through contact, but his lower body is a bit on the thin side, somewhat limiting his verticality in traffic. It's possible that as his lower body strength improves, he could improve his just-decent explosiveness to form a terrific package of overall physical tools. What stands out about Iwundu offensively is his playmaking ability from the wing position. He was one of only two players in the Big 12 last season to average more than 4.5 assists and 5.5 rebounds per-40 minutes. A major share of his half-court offense was centered around him being the ball handler in pick and roll situations. He is very comfortable handling the ball with either hand, and has a variety of shifty dribble moves including an in and out crossover that he uses to get by his defender. Iwundu is adept at handling ball screens for a player of his size, and does a good job keeping teams off balance by rejecting screens, and tilting the defense into difficult rotations. He uses his size well to make passes over the top of the defense, but also does an excellent job finding the open man once he has gotten into the paint and caused the defense to collapse. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Wesley-Iwundu-72634/ ©DraftExpress
Voted to the 2016 Big 12 All-Defensive Team, a significant part of Iwundu's potential rests on his versatility on this end of the floor. With his size, length, and mobility, Iwundu has the tools to defend guards and wings, and can occasionally switch on to some small-ball power forwards, even if struggles with bigger and stronger players. He's an effective and aggressive on ball defender who averaged 1.7 steals per-40 last season, but also picks up some unnecessary fouls away from the basket which you would like to see him eliminate if he moved his feet more and relied less on his length. He shows some lapses off the ball at times, getting caught out of a stance, putting himself in difficult close out situations that he can only sometimes make up for with his length. Iwundu is an effective rebounder from the wing position on both ends of the floor. He uses his length and athleticism well to attack the glass and is quick off his feet seeking second chance opportunities on the offensive boards. He is very effective grabbing rebounds and pushing the pace in transition, and is able to find a good deal of his offense in the open court by putting pressure on the defense with his ball handling, vision, and ability to get to the rim. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Wesley-Iwundu-72634/ ©DraftExpress
bwgood77 wrote:Frank Jackson doesn't pass though. He averaged 1.7 apg. I'm ready for a PG who passes more and would prefer one who can run the pick n roll like Jawun Evans.
darealjuice wrote:bwgood77 wrote:Frank Jackson doesn't pass though. He averaged 1.7 apg. I'm ready for a PG who passes more and would prefer one who can run the pick n roll like Jawun Evans.
I like Jawun's game a lot, but at that point in the draft I'm a lot more for addressing needs because it's even less clear who BPA will be at 32 and everything turns into a crap shoot, so you might as well hope you hit the lottery on a player that fills a role of need. The only scenario I can picture us feeling like a PG is necessary at 32 is if we go wing at 4 and still trade Bledsoe. I'd rather look into a 3-and-D prospect, a high upside prospect that drops, or a center (depending on our plans with Chandler/Len/Williams this offseason).
darealjuice wrote:bwgood77 wrote:Frank Jackson doesn't pass though. He averaged 1.7 apg. I'm ready for a PG who passes more and would prefer one who can run the pick n roll like Jawun Evans.
I like Jawun's game a lot, but at that point in the draft I'm a lot more for addressing needs because it's even less clear who BPA will be at 32 and everything turns into a crap shoot, so you might as well hope you hit the lottery on a player that fills a role of need. The only scenario I can picture us feeling like a PG is necessary at 32 is if we go wing at 4 and still trade Bledsoe. I'd rather look into a 3-and-D prospect, a high upside prospect that drops, or a center (depending on our plans with Chandler/Len/Williams this offseason).
bwgood77 wrote:Yeah, I agree. I do like Evans better than Jackson, but at 32 it's probably better to address a need unless we are getting rid of Bledsoe and didn't draft a PG at 4. I guess the question is, if we draft a wing at #4, what is our biggest need and what is the real strength of the draft at that point?