2017 NBA DRAFT Part 3

[Badgerlander]

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[emunney]

Starting to warm up to Kennard, but the problem is that I have no faith that this current coaching staff will ever put him in a position to maximize his strengths and utilize him correctly within the offense. Just imagining him trying to post up Shaun Livingston....

65% on catch and shoot from the left corner? Has to be intriguing. You wonder where he'll end up if his skill level keeps improving. I think he's going to end up being a pretty good PnR ball handler, but I think it's tough to put him at PG where he'll have to defend the ball. If you think Delly struggles with quickness...

[Fotis St]

Starting to warm up to Kennard, but the problem is that I have no faith that this current coaching staff will ever put him in a position to maximize his strengths and utilize him correctly within the offense. Just imagining him trying to post up Shaun Livingston....

65% on catch and shoot from the left corner? Has to be intriguing. You wonder where he'll end up if his skill level keeps improving. I think he's going to end up being a pretty good PnR ball handler, but I think it's tough to put him at PG where he'll have to defend the ball. If you think Delly struggles with quickness...

If you look Frank Jackson's highlights ... most assists are from Kennard ... been telling you he is a 30 year old Ginobili which is a really good player. Why do I say 30 year old? Cause young Ginobili was dunking on people on nightly basis.

[Ron Swanson]

Starting to warm up to Kennard, but the problem is that I have no faith that this current coaching staff will ever put him in a position to maximize his strengths and utilize him correctly within the offense. Just imagining him trying to post up Shaun Livingston....

65% on catch and shoot from the left corner? Has to be intriguing. You wonder where he'll end up if his skill level keeps improving. I think he's going to end up being a pretty good PnR ball handler, but I think it's tough to put him at PG where he'll have to defend the ball. If you think Delly struggles with quickness...

Yeah, I think he absolutely has more potential than just a catch & shoot guy. Probably always going to be somewhat of a liability on defense because of the average physical tools and quickness, but I've evolved from the Jodie Meeks comparisons and thinking more and more towards a poor man's CJ McCollum. He's got some handles and basic point skills if the "right coach" can utilize them...

[emunney]

Starting to warm up to Kennard, but the problem is that I have no faith that this current coaching staff will ever put him in a position to maximize his strengths and utilize him correctly within the offense. Just imagining him trying to post up Shaun Livingston....

65% on catch and shoot from the left corner? Has to be intriguing. You wonder where he'll end up if his skill level keeps improving. I think he's going to end up being a pretty good PnR ball handler, but I think it's tough to put him at PG where he'll have to defend the ball. If you think Delly struggles with quickness...

Yeah, I think he absolutely has more potential than just a catch & shoot guy. Probably always going to be somewhat of a liability on defense because of the average physical tools and quickness, but I've evolved from the Jodie Meeks comparisons and thinking more and more towards a poor man's CJ McCollum. He's got some handles and basic point skills if the "right coach" can utilize them...

I know it's a white dude thing, but I still say he reminds me a lot of Dragic. Offensively, anyway. Dragic is longer and a lot better laterally.

[bucksfansince88]

still really like corey sanders.

[snoogans8056]

Wouldn't be surprised if Miami took Jonah Bolden in the first.

He's rising up the boards, the ringer currently has him at #27

Not surprised. Mentioned that I thought he would a couple of weeks back. He's a no-brainer in the 2nd round. Depending on the board, I'd have him in the mix at 17, though I have a feeling I'd like someone else more.

I think he's a no-brainer at 17 if you want a big that can even be used against the teams we saw last night. Spaces the floor, mobile enough to cover screens, and protects the rim. Guys like him and Thon are what the future of the 5 looks like.

[Badgerlander]

He's rising up the boards, the ringer currently has him at #27

Not surprised. Mentioned that I thought he would a couple of weeks back. He's a no-brainer in the 2nd round. Depending on the board, I'd have him in the mix at 17, though I have a feeling I'd like someone else more.

I think he's a no-brainer at 17 if you want a big that can even be used against the teams we saw last night. Spaces the floor, mobile enough to cover screens, and protects the rim. Guys like him and Thon are what the future of the 5 looks like.

Then the future better learn to communicate, rotate, pass and rebound because the gold standard is still Tim Duncan until Tim Duncan with a crossover and 3pt jumper surfaces. I'm going with Bradley higher on my board until then.

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[Ruzious]

65% on catch and shoot from the left corner? Has to be intriguing. You wonder where he'll end up if his skill level keeps improving. I think he's going to end up being a pretty good PnR ball handler, but I think it's tough to put him at PG where he'll have to defend the ball. If you think Delly struggles with quickness...

Yeah, I think he absolutely has more potential than just a catch & shoot guy. Probably always going to be somewhat of a liability on defense because of the average physical tools and quickness, but I've evolved from the Jodie Meeks comparisons and thinking more and more towards a poor man's CJ McCollum. He's got some handles and basic point skills if the "right coach" can utilize them...

I know it's a white dude thing, but I still say he reminds me a lot of Dragic. Offensively, anyway. Dragic is longer and a lot better laterally.

And Dragic has point guard skills and the ability to take his man off the dribble, while Kennard is the better pure shooter. Sorry, but I think Kennard projects as just a catch and shoot guy in the NBA - a very good catch and shoot guy - but very one dimentional.

[Ruzious]

Not surprised. Mentioned that I thought he would a couple of weeks back. He's a no-brainer in the 2nd round. Depending on the board, I'd have him in the mix at 17, though I have a feeling I'd like someone else more.

I think he's a no-brainer at 17 if you want a big that can even be used against the teams we saw last night. Spaces the floor, mobile enough to cover screens, and protects the rim. Guys like him and Thon are what the future of the 5 looks like.

Then the future better learn to communicate, rotate, pass and rebound because the gold standard is still Tim Duncan until Tim Duncan with a crossover and 3pt jumper surfaces. I'm going with Bradley higher on my board until then.

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I think Bradley might be the most underrated player in the draft - which is wierd because he was highly recruited and helped win a championship at UNC. Well, Hart was the key guy for Villanova the year before when he won a championship, and he's the second most underrated player in the draft, imo.

[skones]

I think he's a no-brainer at 17 if you want a big that can even be used against the teams we saw last night. Spaces the floor, mobile enough to cover screens, and protects the rim. Guys like him and Thon are what the future of the 5 looks like.

Then the future better learn to communicate, rotate, pass and rebound because the gold standard is still Tim Duncan until Tim Duncan with a crossover and 3pt jumper surfaces. I'm going with Bradley higher on my board until then.

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I think Bradley might be the most underrated player in the draft - which is wierd because he was highly recruited and helped win a championship at UNC. Well, Hart was the key guy for Villanova the year before when he won a championship, and he's the second most underrated player in the draft, imo.

Agree on Hart. He's going to be a solid player for a long long time.

[snoogans8056]

Not surprised. Mentioned that I thought he would a couple of weeks back. He's a no-brainer in the 2nd round. Depending on the board, I'd have him in the mix at 17, though I have a feeling I'd like someone else more.

I think he's a no-brainer at 17 if you want a big that can even be used against the teams we saw last night. Spaces the floor, mobile enough to cover screens, and protects the rim. Guys like him and Thon are what the future of the 5 looks like.

Then the future better learn to communicate, rotate, pass and rebound because the gold standard is still Tim Duncan until Tim Duncan with a crossover and 3pt jumper surfaces. I'm going with Bradley higher on my board until then.

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I like Bradley too, I just worry about teams pick n rolling him to death on defense, and clogging the lane on offense. Normal center problems when facing the better playoff teams.

He's probably a better center, but as a small 5 I'd rather have Bolden.

[Badgerlander]

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need to see more of this skinny kid

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[Zmac]

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Triple double threat? I'm not sure, he seems more like a scorer

[Rockmaninoff]

Love Bradley and Kulboka. Would consider both at our pick.

[Badgerlander]

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Triple double threat? I'm not sure, he seems more like a scorer

Yeah i kind of chuckled when i heard him say that yesterday, but i still love his fit on this team and absolutely think he can play some point in this league. Regardless we desperately need his skillset

[skones]

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Triple double threat? I'm not sure, he seems more like a scorer

Yeah i kind of chuckled when i heard him say that yesterday, but i still love his fit on this team and absolutely think he can play some point in this league. Regardless we desperately need his skillset

Tyler Dorsey, 0 triple doubles at Oregon. Tyler Dorsey, triple double threat.

[emunney]

Not surprised. Mentioned that I thought he would a couple of weeks back. He's a no-brainer in the 2nd round. Depending on the board, I'd have him in the mix at 17, though I have a feeling I'd like someone else more.

I think he's a no-brainer at 17 if you want a big that can even be used against the teams we saw last night. Spaces the floor, mobile enough to cover screens, and protects the rim. Guys like him and Thon are what the future of the 5 looks like.

Then the future better learn to communicate, rotate, pass and rebound because the gold standard is still Tim Duncan until Tim Duncan with a crossover and 3pt jumper surfaces. I'm going with Bradley higher on my board until then.

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I really like Bradley a lot. So damn solid. I have to believe there's still a place in the NBA for good big men who can't switch everything or block 3 shots a game, but who will contest vertically, rebound on both ends and generally use that big body extraordinarily well. You watch a UNC game and he's getting good position early in every play on both ends. My only hesitation on him is that maybe that place in the NBA for him is pretty small; but the counter-point is 37 year old Tim Duncan anchoring the Spurs to a 4-1 Finals win over a very modern Miami team.

My gut says the 'demise' of his type of player is an exaggerated reaction to how overall good the Ws are. Yet if you watch how the Ws defend, yeah, Draymond being able to cover almost any type of player is an advantage, but in most actions, it's much more about communication and execution and they integrate a lot of interesting zone concepts in the middle of the floor. Their defense with Zaza is just fine even without Draymond on the floor. I think Bradley's going to be able to do that stuff, and he's a hell of a lot better rebounder and harder to get vertical on in general than Zaza is.

[Badgerlander]

Then the future better learn to communicate, rotate, pass and rebound because the gold standard is still Tim Duncan until Tim Duncan with a crossover and 3pt jumper surfaces. I'm going with Bradley higher on my board until then.

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I really like Bradley a lot. So damn solid. I have to believe there's still a place in the NBA for good big men who can't switch everything or block 3 shots a game, but who will contest vertically, rebound on both ends and generally use that big body extraordinarily well. You watch a UNC game and he's getting good position early in every play on both ends. My only hesitation on him is that maybe that place in the NBA for him is pretty small; but the counter-point is 37 year old Tim Duncan anchoring the Spurs to a 4-1 Finals win over a very modern Miami team.

My gut says the 'demise' of his type of player is an exaggerated reaction to how overall good the Ws are. Yet if you watch how the Ws defend, yeah, Draymond being able to cover almost any type of player is an advantage, but in most actions, it's much more about communication and execution and they integrate a lot of interesting zone concepts in the middle of the floor. Their defense with Zaza is just fine even without Draymond on the floor. I think Bradley's going to be able to do that stuff, and he's a hell of a lot better rebounder and harder to get vertical on in general than Zaza is.

Yeah the Dubs commo on D is on an elite level. Btw I'll start my official campaign to bring Bogut back here to teach our younglings how to play D right meow.

Q: (Andrew) Bogut was kind of your running partner for a couple years, very vocal. How much has changed for you without him this season?

GREEN: I think it forced me to grow without having Bogut. Because… if I made a mistake, he would cover up for me. He was so vocal that it was always that voice that gave me that comfort, also.

And he taught me so much, man. Bogut–I wouldn’t be the defender I am without Bogut. He taught me a ton. Angles. How to guard the post. You name it, he taught me a ton.

But not having that shield there, it kind of forced me to grow more. Just because I knew if I made a mistake–Bogut’s right there at the rim, it’s getting erased. Any mistake that I made…

We were so on a string together, me and Bogut literally–although both of us talked, we could do stuff without saying a word. He would go there and I would bounce back…

We were so in tune together that, as much as we did talk, there were times where I wouldn’t say nothing, he wouldn’t say nothing, and it would just work out.

Because we knew how to read each other and play off each other. Having Bogut there was kind of like a free pass to take chances and know that he’s going to cover up for my mistakes.

So (losing him) made me be more solid, made me talk even more. It made me talk a lot more… everything.

And it look a little while to figure that out at the beginning of the year because it was just different. But it definitely made me grow for sure.

Q: What’s it like when you and Andre Iguodala are playing defense together?

GREEN: Playing with Andre is very similar to playing with Bogut only (different) in the sense that Andre’s a wing, so it’s a little different.

But playing with him is easy. Because he’s always in the right place. He knows how to read situations just as good if not better than me.

It’s easy to play with someone like that who just knows where to go–he just always knows where to be, what the other team wants to do.

He’s amazing with his hands, getting strips, and covering up other guys’ mistakes, he’s incredible.

And he talks, which, when you go on the court with somebody on the defensive end, it makes things that much easier.

Bradley is such a nice young clean slate with good instincts to start from scratch with.

[skones]

I will always love Bogut.