Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017

[bucknersrevenge]

What I wouldn't mind doing is trading Jae and a future pick to Minny for their 7 assuming Monk is still there. Then move Monk and Rozier for the rights to Josh Jackson.

[Elrod is Back]

I saw the reports that Detroit is shopping #12, but what is Boston taking in return to match salaries? Detroit is over the luxury tax threshhold.

That's the problem. We have to take salaries because so we only can get a little cap relief, and there are no Detroit players we really want. So I think this is an unlikely trade partner.

[Fencer reregistered]

I think you'd have to wait until after FA is over to get a deal like that done. If the Nets add a couple top FAs like Porter or KCP, that pick looks a lot less valuable.

I hadn't thought about that timing aspect. Excellent general point about trading Brooklyn 18.

[Darthlukey]

The Blazers are interested in moving picks (they currently have 3) to dump salary. The nets have around $40m in cap space. I wonder if the blazers would trade all 3 picks along with Turner and Crabbe to the nets (assuming the nets would do it, of course). That means the nets do get to load up on opportunities to gamble on young talent and the Blazers regain some flexibility cap wise (mainly avoid tax though I suppose)

[Darthlukey]

I saw the reports that Detroit is shopping #12, but what is Boston taking in return to match salaries? Detroit is over the luxury tax threshhold.

That's the problem. We have to take salaries because so we only can get a little cap relief, and there are no Detroit players we really want. So I think this is an unlikely trade partner.

Would we want someone like Stanley Johnson? I know nothing about him except that he underachieved this season

[BleedGreen1989]

I think you'd have to wait until after FA is over to get a deal like that done. If the Nets add a couple top FAs like Porter or KCP, that pick looks a lot less valuable.

I hadn't thought about that timing aspect. Excellent general point about trading Brooklyn 18.

Even if not, they weren't god awful with Lin and Lopez healthy.

[Elrod is Back]

I saw the reports that Detroit is shopping #12, but what is Boston taking in return to match salaries? Detroit is over the luxury tax threshhold.

That's the problem. We have to take salaries because so we only can get a little cap relief, and there are no Detroit players we really want. So I think this is an unlikely trade partner.

Would we want someone like Stanley Johnson? I know nothing about him except that he underachieved this season

I wouldn't think so. I'd rather give minutes to Brown and Detroit might not want to trade SJ. More likely they plan to dump junk if they are trading away the no. 12 pick. We cannot take salaries if we are shooting for a max free agent, let alone junk.

[CelticFaninLBC]

I saw the reports that Detroit is shopping #12, but what is Boston taking in return to match salaries? Detroit is over the luxury tax threshhold.

I believe Marcus Morris and Darrun Hilliard works.

[KGboss]

I saw the reports that Detroit is shopping #12, but what is Boston taking in return to match salaries? Detroit is over the luxury tax threshhold.

I believe Marcus Morris and Darrun Hilliard works.

I would take Morris. Exactly the kind've guy we need next to Horford, but what's his contract situation?

[Gomes3PC]

Marcus Morris is interesting, but only if we acquired a true center like DAJ. A frontcourt trio of DAJ, Horford and Morris would be very interesting.

[CelticFaninLBC]

I saw the reports that Detroit is shopping #12, but what is Boston taking in return to match salaries? Detroit is over the luxury tax threshhold.

I believe Marcus Morris and Darrun Hilliard works.

I would take Morris. Exactly the kind've guy we need next to Horford, but what's his contract situation?

Owed 5m in 2017-18 and 5.4m in 18-19.

[Celts17Pride]

I saw the reports that Detroit is shopping #12, but what is Boston taking in return to match salaries? Detroit is over the luxury tax threshhold.

What do facts have to do with anything in RealGM?

[darrendaye]

The Blazers are interested in moving picks (they currently have 3) to dump salary. The nets have around $40m in cap space. I wonder if the blazers would trade all 3 picks along with Turner and Crabbe to the nets (assuming the nets would do it, of course). That means the nets do get to load up on opportunities to gamble on young talent and the Blazers regain some flexibility cap wise (mainly avoid tax though I suppose)

I believe Nets are still restricted from acquiring Crabbe until a full year has passed from the date their offer was matched.

[Andrew McCeltic]

That's the problem. We have to take salaries because so we only can get a little cap relief, and there are no Detroit players we really want. So I think this is an unlikely trade partner.

Would we want someone like Stanley Johnson? I know nothing about him except that he underachieved this season

I wouldn't think so. I'd rather give minutes to Brown and Detroit might not want to trade SJ. More likely they plan to dump junk if they are trading away the no. 12 pick. We cannot take salaries if we are shooting for a max free agent, let alone junk.

Can you get around that with a 3-team trade?

Stanley spent most of the season dealing with his coach being impatient and frustrated with him. Undersized, but young, hell of a lot of potential. I'd probably trade Jae (sorry brother, we love you, we all loved Eric Williams, too) for Stanley and 12, maybe Morris or whoever to a third team, maybe some side exchange between us and a third team. Cap flexibility and a rookie-scale guy.

[Andrew McCeltic]

I saw the reports that Detroit is shopping #12, but what is Boston taking in return to match salaries? Detroit is over the luxury tax threshhold.

What do facts have to do with anything in RealGM?

We're pretty responsible here, I think you've gotta take that righteous justice to Twitter & the political board.

[Andrew McCeltic]

The Blazers are interested in moving picks (they currently have 3) to dump salary. The nets have around $40m in cap space. I wonder if the blazers would trade all 3 picks along with Turner and Crabbe to the nets (assuming the nets would do it, of course). That means the nets do get to load up on opportunities to gamble on young talent and the Blazers regain some flexibility cap wise (mainly avoid tax though I suppose)

I believe Nets are still restricted from acquiring Crabbe until a full year has passed from the date their offer was matched.

Interesting. They could have POR pick for BKN, and do the deal in July. Is that above board or against the rules? Deals are agreed to before/after the draft all the time, but usually not with that long a wait.

[AgentGreen]

Knicks have #8. I'd probably do that deal, though. 1/Crowder for Zinger/8...

then sign Hayward

IT-Bradley-Hayward-Zinger-Horford
Rozier-Smart-Brown-Isaac?-Zizic

We would need a few vets on that roster. Jonas, Bogut, Green, Mack, Meeks type guys.

So basically Crowder for 8 and Zinger for 1?

I pass so quickly on that.

Not me. Porzingis is a perfect fit. Fultz isn't, and I don't buy the hype.

It still amazes me that most people havent seen Fultz play lots of games, just watched some highlight vids.. and already think that he is a superstar and Porzingis isnt? Damnn.. Zinger has already proven himself in the league and has shown us already that his ceiling could be pretty high.

With Brad coaching him he could be a defensive monster with blocking shots all game long and his offense is already very polished.

He's the big Ainge and Stevens want.. a frontcourt player who can shoot the 3 and protect the rim.. these type of players are quite rare.

The Fultz type of player are a dime a dozen.. The league is loaded with offensive polished guards. I'm not buying the hype as well.. Each and every year these prospects get hyped.. but the only decent talents that have come out of this hype recently are Towns and Davis. Wiggins was projected as the next Lebron, lol.

[Captain_Caveman]

Knicks have #8. I'd probably do that deal, though. 1/Crowder for Zinger/8...

then sign Hayward

IT-Bradley-Hayward-Zinger-Horford
Rozier-Smart-Brown-Isaac?-Zizic

We would need a few vets on that roster. Jonas, Bogut, Green, Mack, Meeks type guys.

So basically Crowder for 8 and Zinger for 1?

I pass so quickly on that.

Not me. Porzingis is a perfect fit. Fultz isn't, and I don't buy the hype.

Porzingis is the one who is hype.

Nice prospect, not great.

[Andrew McCeltic]

So basically Crowder for 8 and Zinger for 1?

I pass so quickly on that.

Not me. Porzingis is a perfect fit. Fultz isn't, and I don't buy the hype.

It still amazes me that most people havent seen Fultz play lots of games, just watched some highlight vids.. and already think that he is a superstar and Porzingis isnt? Damnn.. Zinger has already proven himself in the league and has shown us already that his ceiling could be pretty high.

With Brad coaching him he could be a defensive monster with blocking shots all game long and his offense already is very polished.

He's the big Ainge and Stevens want.. a frontcourt player who can shoot the 3 and protect the rim.. these type of players are quite rare.

The Fultz type of player are a dime a dozen.. The league is loaded with offensive polished guards. I'm not buying the hype as well.. Each and every these prospects get hyped.. but the only decent talents that have come out of this hype recently are Towns and Davis. Wiggins was projected as the next Lebron, lol.

I mean, let's say Fultz is Kyrie 2.0. Instant impact dominant lead guard. Do you want him, or do you want Porzingis?

If you want Porzingis, it's for fit. Kyrie 2.0 would have more value. If Porzingis is a year or two away from being healthy, happy, coached well and developed well and being a unicorn superstar big, you do it. But he could also become injury-prone and not reach his ceiling. Fultz actually seems, without having played a minute in the league, like more of a sure thing. Crowder, Rozier, 1 for Porzingis, 8, and unprotected NYK '18? Tell Phil you think Fultz is perfect for the triangle and he adds a pick swap in '19.

[AgentGreen]

Not me. Porzingis is a perfect fit. Fultz isn't, and I don't buy the hype.

It still amazes me that most people havent seen Fultz play lots of games, just watched some highlight vids.. and already think that he is a superstar and Porzingis isnt? Damnn.. Zinger has already proven himself in the league and has shown us already that his ceiling could be pretty high.

With Brad coaching him he could be a defensive monster with blocking shots all game long and his offense already is very polished.

He's the big Ainge and Stevens want.. a frontcourt player who can shoot the 3 and protect the rim.. these type of players are quite rare.

The Fultz type of player are a dime a dozen.. The league is loaded with offensive polished guards. I'm not buying the hype as well.. Each and every these prospects get hyped.. but the only decent talents that have come out of this hype recently are Towns and Davis. Wiggins was projected as the next Lebron, lol.

I mean, let's say Fultz is Kyrie 2.0. Instant impact dominant lead guard. Do you want him, or do you want Porzingis?

If you want Porzingis, it's for fit. Kyrie 2.0 would have more value. If Porzingis is a year or two away from being healthy, happy, coached well and developed well and being a unicorn superstar big, you do it. But he could also become injury-prone and not reach his ceiling. Fultz actually seems, without having played a minute in the league, like more of a sure thing. Crowder, Rozier, 1 for Porzingis, 8, and unprotected NYK '18? Tell Phil you think Fultz is perfect for the triangle and he adds a pick swap in '19.

Fultz has the potential to be a great player offensively yeah.. But i dont think that he will overcome his defensive flaws... Also he isn't Kyrie 2.0. unfortunately.. The ball skils of Kyrie are so good, i havent seen a player in years with these kind of sick handels actually. He showed this talent in college.. Fultz hasn't shown any Kyrie type impact imo.

Fultz will be a no.2 or no.3 option on a contendor not the the no.1 option. His college team didnt show any improvement at all with him leading the team, which makes me question if he's a PG or not? I think that he'll be a better SG in the league. The best PG out of this draft is Ball, he has shown true PG skills imo. The biggest sleeper in this draft, in the PG category, is Ntilikina.