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Lord_Zedd wrote:RaptorsLife wrote:Masai loves characters guys. That's a huge thing with him. That dude doesn't be fit that
In the same article from 10giz's post a couple pages back, Bolden admitted to his immaturity and how easily distracted he was while in UCLA.
He now credits his time in FMP Belgrade for maturing and changing his overall mentality.
RaptorsLife wrote:Lord_Zedd wrote:RaptorsLife wrote:Masai loves characters guys. That's a huge thing with him. That dude doesn't be fit that
In the same article from 10giz's post a couple pages back, Bolden admitted to his immaturity and how easily distracted he was while in UCLA.
He now credits his time in FMP Belgrade for maturing and changing his overall mentality.
I guess there see him workout at Euro camp in Italy I guess interview will help
Lord_Zedd wrote:RaptorsLife wrote:Masai loves characters guys. That's a huge thing with him. That dude doesn't be fit that
In the same article from 10giz's post a couple pages back, Bolden admitted to his immaturity and how easily distracted he was while in UCLA.
He now credits his time in FMP Belgrade for maturing and changing his overall mentality.
Syd-TK3 wrote:OAKLEY_2 wrote:CoachJReturns wrote:I don't think anyone loved Poeltl because he was not an exciting choice, but we all knew he was coming. He was the consensus pick on most mock drafts regardless of whether we liked Skal or not. Once Chriss was selected it was the likely outcome.(Though I was ticked off we didn't trade up for Chriss when it was easy to do so. We have the 905 to develop raw players after all)
Donovan Mitchell seems out of our range which is why nobody is discussing him I think. We don't really have a place for him with Norm here already, but I wouldn't be opposed to taking him. I always like guards who can pick up a high number of steals and Norm is pretty easy to move if someone thought Mitchell was a keeper.
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Exactly my point we all have to ask ourselves how looking for the "exciting choice" might colour our judgement when for all we truly know, let's be honest, a Lydon may come away as having the biggest game impact over the next 4 years from pick 23 and this board consistently writes him off in the first three seconds. Why do they do that? They do it because they project more what kind of a player they think they like vs. looking at the resume of the prospect. The exciting pick is usually a wing with a fall back to power forward. Same every year. Wright was the last point guard taken since Roko Leni and the best players taken after 20 were usually point guards...
With the way our team looked so bad lately in the playoffs and stood no chance against Cavs. Its not hard to understand the exciting pick interest.
And just going based off of last year alone Skal actually looks like he would have been a good pick
HeadtopChunes wrote:"UCLA: Guard-forward Jonah Bolden's college debut was delayed a game when he sat out as punishment for violating unspecified team rules." source: http://www.espn.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400814200
This is the only thing I can find. 1 game looks more like academic probation than "significant character concerns" to me. Which makes sense given the "failed his classes rumors"
But like Chuck said "they're not here to play school"
C_Money wrote:Can somebody tell me who they think the best scorer is in our range? I'm so tired of hearing about defence all the time. We need guys who can light it up.
C_Money wrote:Can somebody tell me who they think the best scorer is in our range? I'm so tired of hearing about defence all the time. We need guys who can light it up.
OAKLEY_2 wrote:HeadtopChunes wrote:"UCLA: Guard-forward Jonah Bolden's college debut was delayed a game when he sat out as punishment for violating unspecified team rules." source: http://www.espn.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400814200
This is the only thing I can find. 1 game looks more like academic probation than "significant character concerns" to me. Which makes sense given the "failed his classes rumors"
But like Chuck said "they're not here to play school"
Sorry if dude failed his courses he should have been in NAIA. Really hard to not take good athletes like Semi and Swani who bust their tails in school and go for an Iverson unless of course he's Iverson. If someone is Iverson I don't care how they do in school. Bolden doesn't look half as talented as Mitchell and I would take Leaf over Bolden each and every time. The Bolden hype is getting very Skal IMHO.
Syd-TK3 wrote:OAKLEY_2 wrote:HeadtopChunes wrote:"UCLA: Guard-forward Jonah Bolden's college debut was delayed a game when he sat out as punishment for violating unspecified team rules." source: http://www.espn.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400814200
This is the only thing I can find. 1 game looks more like academic probation than "significant character concerns" to me. Which makes sense given the "failed his classes rumors"
But like Chuck said "they're not here to play school"
Sorry if dude failed his courses he should have been in NAIA. Really hard to not take good athletes like Semi and Swani who bust their tails in school and go for an Iverson unless of course he's Iverson. If someone is Iverson I don't care how they do in school. Bolden doesn't look half as talented as Mitchell and I would take Leaf over Bolden each and every time. The Bolden hype is getting very Skal IMHO.
I don't think its that serious, like someone else mentioned he admitted to being immature and cited how much he has grown spending time away in Serbia.
At the end of the day the most important knowledge is for the player to be smart at basketball all the other extracurricular accolades are just bonus.
Also to each is own and you have your opinion while others differ so the leaf vs bolden thing is whatever you could make equal arguments to place one over the other.
But why do you keep bringing up Mitchell he's way out our range so not sure how he can be compared.
CoachJReturns wrote:Lord_Zedd wrote:RaptorsLife wrote:Masai loves characters guys. That's a huge thing with him. That dude doesn't be fit that
In the same article from 10giz's post a couple pages back, Bolden admitted to his immaturity and how easily distracted he was while in UCLA.
He now credits his time in FMP Belgrade for maturing and changing his overall mentality.
A year spent among grown men who are professionals, in Siberia of all places, could have only helped him mature.
Victoriarapsfan wrote:CoachJReturns wrote:Lord_Zedd wrote:
In the same article from 10giz's post a couple pages back, Bolden admitted to his immaturity and how easily distracted he was while in UCLA.
He now credits his time in FMP Belgrade for maturing and changing his overall mentality.
A year spent among grown men who are professionals, in Siberia of all places, could have only helped him mature.
Please tell me that's a typo.
OAKLEY_2 wrote:HeadtopChunes wrote:"UCLA: Guard-forward Jonah Bolden's college debut was delayed a game when he sat out as punishment for violating unspecified team rules." source: http://www.espn.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400814200
This is the only thing I can find. 1 game looks more like academic probation than "significant character concerns" to me. Which makes sense given the "failed his classes rumors"
But like Chuck said "they're not here to play school"
Sorry if dude failed his courses he should have been in NAIA. Really hard to not take good athletes like Semi and Swani who bust their tails in school and go for an Iverson unless of course he's Iverson. If someone is Iverson I don't care how they do in school. Bolden doesn't look half as talented as Mitchell and I would take Leaf over Bolden each and every time. The Bolden hype is getting very Skal IMHO.
CoachJReturns wrote:Syd-TK3 wrote:OAKLEY_2 wrote:
Sorry if dude failed his courses he should have been in NAIA. Really hard to not take good athletes like Semi and Swani who bust their tails in school and go for an Iverson unless of course he's Iverson. If someone is Iverson I don't care how they do in school. Bolden doesn't look half as talented as Mitchell and I would take Leaf over Bolden each and every time. The Bolden hype is getting very Skal IMHO.
I don't think its that serious, like someone else mentioned he admitted to being immature and cited how much he has grown spending time away in Serbia.
At the end of the day the most important knowledge is for the player to be smart at basketball all the other extracurricular accolades are just bonus.
Also to each is own and you have your opinion while others differ so the leaf vs bolden thing is whatever you could make equal arguments to place one over the other.
But why do you keep bringing up Mitchell he's way out our range so not sure how he can be compared.
There are probably a ton of guys who did crap in school. I like Rabb, who apparently has always been a great student, but it's not something I put a lot of stock in. How hard a person works at their craft is a hell of a lot more significant to me. A lot of my favorite players ever were somehow labelled as being bad guys including Iverson and when you learn a little more than what you hear in a sound bite they're typically okay people.
Regardless, the team seems to have a goal of making the playoffs as long as possible, so I would expect another unexciting pick again. I think Masai will be gun shy about drafting unsafe picks for the rest of his tenure in Toronto after the Bruno wasted pick.
And yeah, stop bringing up Mitchell. Lotto pick guys are not relevant to the conversation unless they slide like Skal, Davis and Korkmaz did last year. Then we just take them and run.
CoachJReturns wrote:Syd-TK3 wrote:OAKLEY_2 wrote:
Sorry if dude failed his courses he should have been in NAIA. Really hard to not take good athletes like Semi and Swani who bust their tails in school and go for an Iverson unless of course he's Iverson. If someone is Iverson I don't care how they do in school. Bolden doesn't look half as talented as Mitchell and I would take Leaf over Bolden each and every time. The Bolden hype is getting very Skal IMHO.
I don't think its that serious, like someone else mentioned he admitted to being immature and cited how much he has grown spending time away in Serbia.
At the end of the day the most important knowledge is for the player to be smart at basketball all the other extracurricular accolades are just bonus.
Also to each is own and you have your opinion while others differ so the leaf vs bolden thing is whatever you could make equal arguments to place one over the other.
But why do you keep bringing up Mitchell he's way out our range so not sure how he can be compared.
There are probably a ton of guys who did crap in school. I like Rabb, who apparently has always been a great student, but it's not something I put a lot of stock in. How hard a person works at their craft is a hell of a lot more significant to me. A lot of my favorite players ever were somehow labelled as being bad guys including Iverson and when you learn a little more than what you hear in a sound bite they're typically okay people.
Regardless, the team seems to have a goal of making the playoffs as long as possible, so I would expect another unexciting pick again. I think Masai will be gun shy about drafting unsafe picks for the rest of his tenure in Toronto after the Bruno wasted pick.
And yeah, stop bringing up Mitchell. Lotto pick guys are not relevant to the conversation unless they slide like Skal, Davis and Korkmaz did last year. Then we just take them and run.
OAKLEY_2 wrote:CoachJReturns wrote:Syd-TK3 wrote:I don't think its that serious, like someone else mentioned he admitted to being immature and cited how much he has grown spending time away in Serbia.
At the end of the day the most important knowledge is for the player to be smart at basketball all the other extracurricular accolades are just bonus.
Also to each is own and you have your opinion while others differ so the leaf vs bolden thing is whatever you could make equal arguments to place one over the other.
But why do you keep bringing up Mitchell he's way out our range so not sure how he can be compared.
There are probably a ton of guys who did crap in school. I like Rabb, who apparently has always been a great student, but it's not something I put a lot of stock in. How hard a person works at their craft is a hell of a lot more significant to me. A lot of my favorite players ever were somehow labelled as being bad guys including Iverson and when you learn a little more than what you hear in a sound bite they're typically okay people.
Regardless, the team seems to have a goal of making the playoffs as long as possible, so I would expect another unexciting pick again. I think Masai will be gun shy about drafting unsafe picks for the rest of his tenure in Toronto after the Bruno wasted pick.
And yeah, stop bringing up Mitchell. Lotto pick guys are not relevant to the conversation unless they slide like Skal, Davis and Korkmaz did last year. Then we just take them and run.
Unexciting pick yes but not because Masai is gun shy. Rather there are all sorts of unexciting picks who play better basketball than exciting ones. This is a weird draft in that the field is so wide open after the lotto. Because there are next to no Euros my after 20 point guard or Euro pick theory is in desperate straights. Right now I have a quartet of Bam, Ferguson, Leaf, Swani. I do believe it will most likely be a big (Bam, Leaf, Swani) and the Amir talk is for mentorship of young bigs.