2017 NBA DRAFT Part 3

[Ron Swanson]

Kennard at #11 is such a Hornets pick. No way would I ever take him that high.

Hornets love White C's. Lock in Zach Collins

Nah, Hornets love high floor, low ceiling guys. Collins doesn't fit that mold. I honestly wouldn't rule out them taking Tony Bradley at #11 considering his late rise in mocks and MJ's love of ex-Tar Heels.

[tedbrogen]

Kennard at #11 is such a Hornets pick. No way would I ever take him that high.

Hornets love White C's. Lock in Zach Collins

Nah, Hornets love high floor, low ceiling guys. Collins doesn't fit that mold. I honestly wouldn't rule out them taking Tony Bradley at #11 considering his late rise in mocks and MJ's love of ex-Tar Heels.

Justin Jackson at #11 would be hilarious. He is like a less talented, lower BBIQ Harrison Barnes, so MJ will love him. Doubt they take Kennard's or any Duke player. Remember MJ was strongly against Winslow.

[Matches Malone]

I'm having a tough time getting excited about any of the guys in our range. Jawun Evans is intriguing but would be a reach at 17. Jeanne is interesting but is so rail thin and not sure his 3 will be THAT reliable in the NBA. Leaf doesn't do much for me. Giles is a huge risk that I could get behind, but I still worry. Jarrett Allen no thanks. Anigbogu and Patton I could be talked into but they don't overly excite me.

[Ron Swanson]

Yeah, you should always be looking for the next Ibaka, Gobert, Draymond, or Rondo in the mid-late portion of the draft, but sometimes it's important to note that some draft classes just don't have that guy.

[skones]

Yeah, you should always be looking for the next Ibaka, Gobert, Draymond, or Rondo in the mid-late portion of the draft, but sometimes it's important to note that some draft classes just don't have that guy.

I think looking for the "next" anything is what results in players being over drafted. For example, if Gobert doesn't exist, I think Jeanne's stock is a bit different. With that being said, there are a lot of potential starters at the 5 in this draft. One of them is going to boom, and I don't hate our chances that he's on the board when our pick comes round at 17.



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[emunney]

Hornets love White C's. Lock in Zach Collins

Nah, Hornets love high floor, low ceiling guys. Collins doesn't fit that mold. I honestly wouldn't rule out them taking Tony Bradley at #11 considering his late rise in mocks and MJ's love of ex-Tar Heels.

Justin Jackson at #11 would be hilarious. He is like a less talented, lower BBIQ Harrison Barnes, so MJ will love him. Doubt they take Kennard's or any Duke player. Remember MJ was strongly against Winslow.

Counterpoint: Plumlee

[Frank Nova]

I think I have my top 5 narrowed down to; Hartenstein, Leaf, Anigbogu, Evans and Ojeleye.

I also like Patton, Allen, Jeanne, Jackson (UNC), Bam and Pasecniks.

The depth of bigs in this draft is astounding. Even Giles, who's the biggest wild card in the pool, I wouldn't necessarily "love" the pick but if he's cleared by the medical team, I have no problem taking him and hoping for the best. Giannis, Thon and Giles could be monsterous but I like pretty much all 11 of those guys I named as seamless fits with Giannis and Thon as well. Sure this draft is front loaded but the depth is exceptional and we're almost guaranteed to walk away with a contributor.

I'm pretty torn on what I want to happen with Monroe but him opting out and walking, opening up huge salary relief and drafting his replacement seems like the big winner right now. I'd rather draft a big in the 1st and use Monroes money to bring in a wing via FA.

[skones]

I think I have my top 5 narrowed down to; Hartenstein, Leaf, Anigbogu, Evans and Ojeleye.

I also like Patton, Allen, Jeanne, Jackson (UNC), Bam and Pasecniks.

The depth of bigs in this draft is astounding. Even Giles, who's the biggest wild card in the pool, I wouldn't necessarily "love" the pick but if he's cleared by the medical team, I have no problem taking him and hoping for the best. Giannis, Thon and Giles could be monsterous but I like pretty much all 11 of those guys I named as seamless fits with Giannis and Thon as well. Sure this draft is front loaded but the depth is exceptional and we're almost guaranteed to walk away with a contributor.

I'm pretty torn on what I want to happen with Monroe but him opting out and walking, opening up huge salary relief and drafting his replacement seems like the big winner right now. I'd rather draft a big in the 1st and use Monroes money to bring in a wing via FA.

Monroe opting out doesn't open up a lot of room to make a splash. You'd be looking at value guys more than you would an impact player.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, losing Monroe this off-season would be a substantial blow to our 17-18 outlook.

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[Fotis St]

I think I have my top 5 narrowed down to; Hartenstein, Leaf, Anigbogu, Evans and Ojeleye.

I have narrowed my list to two ...

Isaiah Hartenstein
Semi Ojeleye

Two talented players with high upside and NBA Ready body.

The difference between Ike and Hartenstein is that
Ike's mom was a volleyball player and Hartenstein's dad was a pro Center and currently a coach. It is obvious Hartenstein plays the game of basketball more years and he is far superior on skills sets. So Hartenstein is my pick out of all Centers. His looks like a nice compliment to Thon's skills... stronger,better rebounder, but with probably less rim protection and less 3s. Still I believe he will have a mid range game and his 70%FT is a strong indication.

On the other hand Semi Ojeleye.
A great athlete, great work ethic, "Butler" strong, played positionless basketball in college, SG/SF/PF, I heard a Bucks podcast were their were saying that Ojileye's team played similar with the Bucks ... many forwards switching everything.
He has 3pt range, good FT%,he is ready to produce day one.

So it is those two and you can't go wrong with them.

[Ron Swanson]

If I had any faith that Jeanne had the talent of a Thon or Skal type prospect, I wouldn't hesitate at all to draft him 17th overall. Heck, I'd probably even try and move up and nab him before someone else does. I just don't see the jumper or the athleticism.

He's just a super tall/lengthy guy that doesn't have horrible shot mechanics. I could be totally wrong, but IMO those types of guys are a dime a dozen in the NBA. Just look at Walter Tavares, Alexis Ajinca, and Boban Marjanovic.

[M-C-G]

Man, I really hope Ball ends up in Sacramento

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[Pachinko_]

Imagine if Ball falls and then teams below are too scared to pick him because they havent really scouted him because he wasnt in their range, and they don't know the real reason why the previous team didnt pick him
Like that football movie

I don't know anything about football by the way, was this a dumb movie? I enjoyed the plot twists

[machu46]

Hornets love White C's. Lock in Zach Collins

Nah, Hornets love high floor, low ceiling guys. Collins doesn't fit that mold. I honestly wouldn't rule out them taking Tony Bradley at #11 considering his late rise in mocks and MJ's love of ex-Tar Heels.

Justin Jackson at #11 would be hilarious. He is like a less talented, lower BBIQ Harrison Barnes, so MJ will love him. Doubt they take Kennard's or any Duke player. Remember MJ was strongly against Winslow.

Maybe he just didn't think Winslow was a good prospect? I didn't think he was anything special back then and he's been awful in the NBA so far.


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[AussieBuck]

Centre who can play help d + catch and dunk or a perimeter player who hits threes without needing miles of space

[Frank Nova]

I think I have my top 5 narrowed down to; Hartenstein, Leaf, Anigbogu, Evans and Ojeleye.

I also like Patton, Allen, Jeanne, Jackson (UNC), Bam and Pasecniks.

The depth of bigs in this draft is astounding. Even Giles, who's the biggest wild card in the pool, I wouldn't necessarily "love" the pick but if he's cleared by the medical team, I have no problem taking him and hoping for the best. Giannis, Thon and Giles could be monsterous but I like pretty much all 11 of those guys I named as seamless fits with Giannis and Thon as well. Sure this draft is front loaded but the depth is exceptional and we're almost guaranteed to walk away with a contributor.

I'm pretty torn on what I want to happen with Monroe but him opting out and walking, opening up huge salary relief and drafting his replacement seems like the big winner right now. I'd rather draft a big in the 1st and use Monroes money to bring in a wing via FA.

Monroe opting out doesn't open up a lot of room to make a splash. You'd be looking at value guys more than you would an impact player.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, losing Monroe this off-season would be a substantial blow to our 17-18 outlook.

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Monroe opting out saves us around 17mil. And Snell being restricted, we can bring him back over the cap so yeah Monroe opting out does save us significant money to spend in free agency. But I never said anything about a "splash" anyway. I don't necessarily expect us to go that route but replacing Monroe with pick 17 and solid role players to strengthen the bench doesn't hurt our immediate future either. Having Monroe back would be great too, I'm certainly not against that at all.

The only way for Monroe opting out to really hurt us would be to turn around and spend his cap slot on a Derrick Rose type free agent which would be pretty disastrous. Other than that, what makes losing Monroe so terrible if you're able to replace his production in multiple other areas? My biggest concern with a high turnover is chemistry....

[Frank Nova]

I think I have my top 5 narrowed down to; Hartenstein, Leaf, Anigbogu, Evans and Ojeleye.

I have narrowed my list to two ...

Isaiah Hartenstein
Semi Ojeleye

Two talented players with high upside and NBA Ready body.

The difference between Ike and Hartenstein is that
Ike's mom was a volleyball player and Hartenstein's dad was a pro Center and currently a coach. It is obvious Hartenstein plays the game of basketball more years and he is far superior on skills sets. So Hartenstein is my pick out of all Centers. His looks like a nice compliment to Thon's skills... stronger,better rebounder, but with probably less rim protection and less 3s. Still I believe he will have a mid range game and his 70%FT is a strong indication.

On the other hand Semi Ojeleye.
A great athlete, great work ethic, "Butler" strong, played positionless basketball in college, SG/SF/PF, I heard a Bucks podcast were their were saying that Ojileye's team played similar with the Bucks ... many forwards switching everything.
He has 3pt range, good FT%,he is ready to produce day one.

So it is those two and you can't go wrong with them.

Sign me up, I'm all for Semi or Isaiah. I think either fits in perfectly and will eventually become starter caliber guys in our system. Brogdon Khris Semi Giannis Thon has the makings of a tremendous starting 5 and if Jabari ever regains his form and can contribute he's a perfect super 6th man to come in and dominate 2nd units like Monroe did last year on the offensive end. I look at the Jabari factor in all this as well and at 17, Semi is probably the best player available to replace Jabari in our lineup imho.

[skones]

I think I have my top 5 narrowed down to; Hartenstein, Leaf, Anigbogu, Evans and Ojeleye.

I also like Patton, Allen, Jeanne, Jackson (UNC), Bam and Pasecniks.

The depth of bigs in this draft is astounding. Even Giles, who's the biggest wild card in the pool, I wouldn't necessarily "love" the pick but if he's cleared by the medical team, I have no problem taking him and hoping for the best. Giannis, Thon and Giles could be monsterous but I like pretty much all 11 of those guys I named as seamless fits with Giannis and Thon as well. Sure this draft is front loaded but the depth is exceptional and we're almost guaranteed to walk away with a contributor.

I'm pretty torn on what I want to happen with Monroe but him opting out and walking, opening up huge salary relief and drafting his replacement seems like the big winner right now. I'd rather draft a big in the 1st and use Monroes money to bring in a wing via FA.

Monroe opting out doesn't open up a lot of room to make a splash. You'd be looking at value guys more than you would an impact player.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, losing Monroe this off-season would be a substantial blow to our 17-18 outlook.

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Monroe opting out saves us around 17mil. And Snell being restricted, we can bring him back over the cap so yeah Monroe opting out does save us significant money to spend in free agency. But I never said anything about a "splash" anyway. I don't necessarily expect us to go that route but replacing Monroe with pick 17 and solid role players to strengthen the bench doesn't hurt our immediate future either. Having Monroe back would be great too, I'm certainly not against that at all.

The only way for Monroe opting out to really hurt us would be to turn around and spend his cap slot on a Derrick Rose type free agent which would be pretty disastrous. Other than that, what makes losing Monroe so terrible if you're able to replace his production in multiple other areas? My biggest concern with a high turnover is chemistry....

You don't just open up 17 million in cap room with a Monroe opt out. We're over the cap, and Snell still counts against the cap as a restricted FA. You'd be looking at something like 10m in space. That's not enough money to net a player that "replaces" Greg Monroes production. He was very very good for us all year round.

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[Prince12]

Imagine if Ball falls and then teams below are too scared to pick him because they havent really scouted him because he wasnt in their range, and they don't know the real reason why the previous team didnt pick him
Like that football movie

I don't know anything about football by the way, was this a dumb movie? I enjoyed the plot twists

No chance but id love to see Lavar's reaction if ball slipped to 10.

[VooDoo7]

Imagine if Ball falls and then teams below are too scared to pick him because they havent really scouted him because he wasnt in their range, and they don't know the real reason why the previous team didnt pick him
Like that football movie

I don't know anything about football by the way, was this a dumb movie? I enjoyed the plot twists

No chance but id love to see Lavar's reaction if ball slipped to 10.

I'd love to see it if he doesn't go to LA, period.

[Prince12]

Imagine if Ball falls and then teams below are too scared to pick him because they havent really scouted him because he wasnt in their range, and they don't know the real reason why the previous team didnt pick him
Like that football movie

I don't know anything about football by the way, was this a dumb movie? I enjoyed the plot twists

No chance but id love to see Lavar's reaction if ball slipped to 10.

I'd love to see it if he doesn't go to LA, period.

Absolutely.