Snapbacks and Handshakes: The 2017 Draft (Raps pick #23)

[HeadtopChunes]

At this rate I think Semi Semi Ojeleye might end up being picked in the top 10 ... The guy has been killing it in every worked he has had so far ...

He might go before us now. He's impressed every workout. Thunder will be looking at him .

[RaptorsLife]

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[Troubadour]

New DX Mock Draft

22. Jonathan Jeanne
23. Terrance Ferguson
24. Bam Adebayo
25. Isaiah Hartenstein
26. Anzejs Pasecniks
27. Semi Ojeleye
28. DJ Wilson
29. Rodions Kurucs
30. Tyler Lydon
35. Jordan Bell
41. Caleb Swanigan
46. Jonah Bolden
57. Sindarius Thornwell

[BoyzNTheHood]

New DX Mock Draft

22. Jonathan Jeanne
23. Terrance Ferguson
24. Bam Adebayo
25. Isaiah Hartenstein
26. Anzejs Pasecniks
27. Semi Ojeleye
28. DJ Wilson
29. Rodions Kurucs
30. Tyler Lydon
35. Jordan Bell
41. Caleb Swanigan
46. Jonah Bolden
57. Sindarius Thornwell

I was the first person on the Terrance Ferguson bandwagon, but I don't really want another Terrence Ross. There are a bunch of guys I'd draft over him.

[Kevin Willis]

Terrance Ferguson or Wesley Iwundu?

[BoyzNTheHood]

Terrance Ferguson or Wesley Iwundu?

Ferguson has more potential, but will probably max out at a T-Ross/Gerald Green type. Iwundu is going to be more solid. In the mold of Kent Bazemore but with better passing. Both role player types. If it's up to me I'd go with Iwundu, but my fondness for his game is well documented in these threads.

[PhilBlackson]

Terrance Ferguson or Wesley Iwundu?

Neither.

Forced to pick I take Ferguson because his shooting can be used in NBA offences. But both guys looks very mediocre.

[PhilBlackson]

At this rate I think Semi Semi Ojeleye might end up being picked in the top 10 ... The guy has been killing it in every worked he has had so far ...

Guaranteed he does not go top 10.

Fultz
Ball
Jackson
Tatum
Fox
DS Jr
Monk
Isaac
Markannen
Ntilinka

There's your top 10, Semi isn't taking anyone out unless a GM wants to get fired. He might get himself into the 12+ range if he continues to shine in workouts but no one is risking passing on any of those high upside and productive young players for a junior in a weaker division that despite his muscles does not have good length.

[deeps6x]

I have a theory that the Kings would be good partners in a JV trade. Peja travels in Serbian basketball circles where JV is still ranked high. They are also not fully sold on WCS, and seem to have an irrational decision making process which Masai could take advantage of.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/SAC.html

Good partners in a JV trade?!? They have Koufos, WCS and Pappagiannis. Sure JV can score more, but the last two are still young. If we were shedding salary, then sure, I'd do JV for WCS and a pick. Only problem is #10 is too high in this scenario and they don't have anything lower. They have #5 and #10. Hell, I'd do DD for those two picks. Tatum looks like the real deal. #10 is where teams start to reach a bit. Smith/Mitchell/Anuoby/etc. Pick for near term need.

WCS was fast, big and smart. Did the Kings ruin him? Was college all an illusion because he played with KAT? I'd gamble and take him to find out for ourselves.

I like the look of Anzejs Pasecniks. I don't know if the league is moving to small ball all the time (like in the finals) but if this kid is as fast as he looks, he could turn into something special. Maybe not 'win the finals' special, but maybe he gets you to the ECF a few times in 4-5 years.

[HeadtopChunes]

At this rate I think Semi Semi Ojeleye might end up being picked in the top 10 ... The guy has been killing it in every worked he has had so far ...

Guaranteed he does not go top 10.

Fultz
Ball
Jackson
Tatum
Fox
DS Jr
Monk
Isaac
Markannen
Ntilinka

There's your top 10, Semi isn't taking anyone out unless a GM wants to get fired. He might get himself into the 12+ range if he continues to shine in workouts but no one is risking passing on any of those high upside and productive young players for a junior in a weaker division that despite his muscles does not have good length.

Im pretty sure he was just exaggerating lol

[PhilBlackson]

At this rate I think Semi Semi Ojeleye might end up being picked in the top 10 ... The guy has been killing it in every worked he has had so far ...

Guaranteed he does not go top 10.

Fultz
Ball
Jackson
Tatum
Fox
DS Jr
Monk
Isaac
Markannen
Ntilinka

There's your top 10, Semi isn't taking anyone out unless a GM wants to get fired. He might get himself into the 12+ range if he continues to shine in workouts but no one is risking passing on any of those high upside and productive young players for a junior in a weaker division that despite his muscles does not have good length.

Im pretty sure he was just exaggerating lol

Unless there is green font, it's guilty until proven innocent.

[HeadtopChunes]

Hoopshype says were working out Rabb this week. Interesting.

[Syd-TK3]

Only got 2 workouts left after today and they've only had like 3 guys I'm interested in

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[Tortiglioni]

Only got 2 workouts left after today and they've only had like 3 guys I'm interested in

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? The workouts are just getting started.

[CoachJReturns]

Hoopshype says were working out Rabb this week. Interesting.

Sweet. I wanted the Raptors to draft him since before last year’s draft. Lol. This board doesn’t like him, but I don’t care. He’s still my 1st or 2nd option at our spot. His character has always been spoken highly of and he was an excellent student, so he’ll probably do well by any interview standards. The important thing for him will be to show some better mobility on any drills for perimeter defense and demonstrate improvement on his jump shot. Everyone already knows he can rebound, post up, pass, run the floor and play above the rim to an okay degree.

Come on Rabb, put on a show! I need a reason to start watching Raptor games again next year. Even if it's only the 905.

[PhilBlackson]

Hoopshype says were working out Rabb this week. Interesting.

Not really lol no offense...

It's fairly obvious we're looking to use this draft pick to clog a hole that Patterson leaves. The majority of prospects we've looked at have been PFs (or combo SF/PFs). Which if there wasn't a plethora of PF prospects in our range I would be a lot more annoyed about because imo it should be BPA but there's potential that one of them is the BPA, imo Rabb will not be the best PF on the board when we do pick (not to say we don't make the mistake of drafting him).

Rabb is another "JV", big man from the past that doesn't fit the way the league is heading.

5-10 years ago you would love to have good low post threat like JV and Rabb, now that style of play is/has become all but obsolete. Rabb is only working on extending his range where majority of PFs in our range already do and are much more fluid ballhandlers, another flaw that doesn't get discussed. In addition, besides being fairly awkward off the dribble he's not that quick which also doesn't bode well in a league built on speed and shooting. Funny because just a few years back I would have been raving about a player like him but I see how he doesn't fit into the way the league is and is continuing to evolve into.

[Anatomize]

At this rate I think Semi Semi Ojeleye might end up being picked in the top 10 ... The guy has been killing it in every worked he has had so far ...

Guaranteed he does not go top 10.

Fultz
Ball
Jackson
Tatum
Fox
DS Jr
Monk
Isaac
Markannen
Ntilinka

There's your top 10, Semi isn't taking anyone out unless a GM wants to get fired. He might get himself into the 12+ range if he continues to shine in workouts but no one is risking passing on any of those high upside and productive young players for a junior in a weaker division that despite his muscles does not have good length.

You severely overrate NBA GMs.

History shows blunders are consistently made in the top 10, and I'm sure we'll see some here as well.

Don't put it past workouts shooting guys up the draft who have no business being there based on your perceived mock positioning.

Don't forget the Cavs took Dion Waiters, Tristan Thompson, Min with Jonny Flynn (he apparently really struggled in workouts pre draft and was taken solely on his performances at Syracuse - did have a stellar rookie year but tapered off big time), we took Terrence Ross, etc. etc. It goes well beyond these small examples.

[PhilBlackson]

At this rate I think Semi Semi Ojeleye might end up being picked in the top 10 ... The guy has been killing it in every worked he has had so far ...

Guaranteed he does not go top 10.

Fultz
Ball
Jackson
Tatum
Fox
DS Jr
Monk
Isaac
Markannen
Ntilinka

There's your top 10, Semi isn't taking anyone out unless a GM wants to get fired. He might get himself into the 12+ range if he continues to shine in workouts but no one is risking passing on any of those high upside and productive young players for a junior in a weaker division that despite his muscles does not have good length.

You severely overrate NBA GMs.

History shows blunders are consistently made in the top 10, and I'm sure we'll see some here as well.

Don't put it past workouts shooting guys up the draft who have no business being there based on your perceived mock positioning.

Don't forget the Cavs took Dion Waiters, Tristan Thompson, we took Terrence Ross, etc. etc. It goes well beyond these three small examples.

Fair enough, I also just remembered that Vlade Divac has 2 top 10 picks so while it may not be Semi there is a high probability of a dumb pick. My bad lol

[OAKLEY_2]

Hoopshype says were working out Rabb this week. Interesting.

Not really lol no offense...

It's fairly obvious we're looking to use this draft pick to clog a hole that Patterson leaves. The majority of prospects we've looked at have been PFs (or combo SF/PFs). Which if there wasn't a plethora of PF prospects in our range I would be a lot more annoyed about because imo it should be BPA but there's potential that one of them is the BPA, imo Rabb will not be the best PF on the board when we do pick (not to say we don't make the mistake of drafting him).

Rabb is another "JV", big man from the past that doesn't fit the way the league is heading.

5-10 years ago you would love to have good low post threat like JV and Rabb, now that style of play is/has become all but obsolete. Rabb is only working on extending his range where majority of PFs in our range already do and are much more fluid ballhandlers, another flaw that doesn't get discussed. In addition, besides being fairly awkward off the dribble he's not that quick which also doesn't bode well in a league built on speed and shooting. Funny because just a few years back I would have been raving about a player like him but I see how he doesn't fit into the way the league is and is continuing to evolve into.

On Rabb. He is still very young. He's versatile. He is better than an average athlete. He not spectacular but he likely is solid. Lastly, who says we are finding anyone better than Paskal to supposedly fill Patterson's shoes? 23 pick is going to 905 unless we tank and rebuild which I am not laying any bets on. Rabb is as good a 905 learning candidate as any in this crapshoot later first round draft.

[Mikistan]

Hoopshype says were working out Rabb this week. Interesting.

Not really lol no offense...

It's fairly obvious we're looking to use this draft pick to clog a hole that Patterson leaves. The majority of prospects we've looked at have been PFs (or combo SF/PFs). Which if there wasn't a plethora of PF prospects in our range I would be a lot more annoyed about because imo it should be BPA but there's potential that one of them is the BPA, imo Rabb will not be the best PF on the board when we do pick (not to say we don't make the mistake of drafting him).

Rabb is another "JV", big man from the past that doesn't fit the way the league is heading.

5-10 years ago you would love to have good low post threat like JV and Rabb, now that style of play is/has become all but obsolete. Rabb is only working on extending his range where majority of PFs in our range already do and are much more fluid ballhandlers, another flaw that doesn't get discussed. In addition, besides being fairly awkward off the dribble he's not that quick which also doesn't bode well in a league built on speed and shooting. Funny because just a few years back I would have been raving about a player like him but I see how he doesn't fit into the way the league is and is continuing to evolve into.

On Rabb. He is still very young. He's versatile. He is better than an average athlete. He not spectacular but he likely is solid. Lastly, who says we are finding anyone better than Paskal to supposedly fill Patterson's shoes? 23 pick is going to 905 unless we tank and rebuild which I am not laying any bets on. Rabb is as good a 905 learning candidate as any in this crapshoot later first round draft.

Bolden can be in the rotation as early as this coming year.