Summer Trade/(OffSeason) Thread 2017

[Andrew McCeltic]

Fultz/Brown could be like, Kyrie and Jimmy Butler. You don't trade that backcourt for Anthony Davis, you trade Anthony Davis to play with it.

[GregB]

I'm kind of digging the signing Hayward and trading Bradley/Crowder for Love idea.

The money would be tight though if we want to keep Smart. It may require Hayward eating 500k-1Mil. But I think it would help balance the roster a bit.

In this scenario , I have us keeping our picks. Take Fultz at #1. In the second round try and find a Leon Powe type big ( Motley/Swanigan/Oliver, a SG ( Hart/Thornwell ), and a PG ( Frank Mason )

Transaction #1

Terry Rozier for a Top 15-20 protected future first.

By Renouncing all of our FA, dumping Rozier , and stashing Yabusele again. That gets us to the max.

Transaction #2

Sign Gordon Hayward to a maximum contract.

Transaction #3

Trade Avery Bradley, Jae Crowder, Demetrius Jackson, Min Salary player, and 2018 Boston First for Kevin Love


Lineup:

Isaiah Thomas/Markelle Fultz/Frank Mason
Jaylen Brown/Marcus Smart/( Hart/Thornwell )
Gordon Hayward/Abdel Nader/Gerald Green
Kevin Love/Jonas Jerebko/( Motley/Swanigan/Oliver)
Al Horford/Ante Zizic/ Vet Min

[DowJones]

Would Boston do a Love for Crowder-Smart-Bradley-2019 LAC 1st deal? This trade would make Hayward more likely to sign and open PT for Fultz and Brown.

Take out Smart and I am sure Danny would consider it. I could see that being a follow up move to signing Hayward.

Too thin for Cleveland then. Crowder+ Bradley just isn't enough.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Yeah, I think the best play is still to have Carmelo go to Cleveland, us to absorb Love into some of our cap space, and New York to get cap relief and lesser assets. Cleveland's need to mix things up, get a more effective offensive group, and New York's need to dump Carmelo could lower Love's price substantially.

[Darthlukey]

Yeah, I think the best play is still to have Carmelo go to Cleveland, us to absorb Love into some of our cap space, and New York to get cap relief and lesser assets. Cleveland's need to mix things up, get a more effective offensive group, and New York's need to dump Carmelo could lower Love's price substantially.

Call me stubborn, called me jaded but I dont want a single player from the Cavs team anywhere near the Celtics. Not to mention that this is the third year in a row that Love has been a non-factor one the competition got serious (mind you, Kelly did kinda kill his 2015 playoffs)

[Darthlukey]

Yeah, I think the best play is still to have Carmelo go to Cleveland, us to absorb Love into some of our cap space, and New York to get cap relief and lesser assets. Cleveland's need to mix things up, get a more effective offensive group, and New York's need to dump Carmelo could lower Love's price substantially.

Call me stubborn, called me jaded but I dont want a single player from the Cavs team anywhere near the Celtics. Not to mention that this is the third year in a row that Love has been a non-factor once the competition got serious (mind you, Kelly did kinda kill his 2015 playoffs)

[Andrew McCeltic]

Yeah, I think the best play is still to have Carmelo go to Cleveland, us to absorb Love into some of our cap space, and New York to get cap relief and lesser assets. Cleveland's need to mix things up, get a more effective offensive group, and New York's need to dump Carmelo could lower Love's price substantially.

Call me stubborn, called me jaded but I dont want a single player from the Cavs team anywhere near the Celtics. Not to mention that this is the third year in a row that Love has been a non-factor one the competition got serious (mind you, Kelly did kinda kill his 2015 playoffs)

Like with Ray Allen and Chris Bosh, the big question with Love is whether he can recover his elite offensive form somewhere else. He's still young. But you do have to remember he's in a horrible situation, playing against his tendencies and strengths, frequently just a spot-up shooter. In Minnesota he was, like IT for us, the engine of an entire offense.

[Darthlukey]

CLE Incoming:
Avery Bradley
Isaiah Thomas
Jae Crowder
Al Horford

BOS Incoming:
2019 CLE 1st
2021 CLE 1st
2023 CLE 1st
JR Smith
Tristan Thompson
Channing Frye
Iman Shumpert

lol

Lmao are you trying to pull a BillyKing pt.2 on the Cavs?

I think they'd ban your phone # with this offer.

Also, I'm pretty certain that the Cavs dont own their 2019 pick (going to Atlanta for the Korver trade)

[Darthlukey]

Read on Twitter

I really want AD but heck no to that package. We'd basically be the Pelicans and our new roster still won't beat the Warriors.

If we were going all in for AD, it means win now and we don't give away bradley

[Darthlukey]

Yeah, I think the best play is still to have Carmelo go to Cleveland, us to absorb Love into some of our cap space, and New York to get cap relief and lesser assets. Cleveland's need to mix things up, get a more effective offensive group, and New York's need to dump Carmelo could lower Love's price substantially.

Call me stubborn, called me jaded but I dont want a single player from the Cavs team anywhere near the Celtics. Not to mention that this is the third year in a row that Love has been a non-factor one the competition got serious (mind you, Kelly did kinda kill his 2015 playoffs)

Like with Ray Allen and Chris Bosh, the big question with Love is whether he can recover his elite offensive form somewhere else. He's still young. But you do have to remember he's in a horrible situation, playing against his tendencies and strengths, frequently just a spot-up shooter. In Minnesota he was, like IT for us, the engine of an entire offense.

Is he versatile enough to be effective though? He can score and he can rebound, but the two teams in the finals have the two most versatile 2 way players in the league, James and green

[Fencer reregistered]

Yeah, I think the best play is still to have Carmelo go to Cleveland, us to absorb Love into some of our cap space, and New York to get cap relief and lesser assets. Cleveland's need to mix things up, get a more effective offensive group, and New York's need to dump Carmelo could lower Love's price substantially.

Call me stubborn, called me jaded but I dont want a single player from the Cavs team anywhere near the Celtics. Not to mention that this is the third year in a row that Love has been a non-factor once the competition got serious (mind you, Kelly did kinda kill his 2015 playoffs)

If Love hadn't played so well in the conference finals, that series would have looked more serious itself.

[Darthlukey]

Call me stubborn, called me jaded but I dont want a single player from the Cavs team anywhere near the Celtics. Not to mention that this is the third year in a row that Love has been a non-factor once the competition got serious (mind you, Kelly did kinda kill his 2015 playoffs)

If Love hadn't played so well in the conference finals, that series would have looked more serious itself.

Versus our current frontcourt and a lack of a lebron 'stopper' I would expect no less

[ermocrate]

I don't think that give "future" to a franchise that is bound to die in 2-3 years is smart.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Call me stubborn, called me jaded but I dont want a single player from the Cavs team anywhere near the Celtics. Not to mention that this is the third year in a row that Love has been a non-factor one the competition got serious (mind you, Kelly did kinda kill his 2015 playoffs)

Like with Ray Allen and Chris Bosh, the big question with Love is whether he can recover his elite offensive form somewhere else. He's still young. But you do have to remember he's in a horrible situation, playing against his tendencies and strengths, frequently just a spot-up shooter. In Minnesota he was, like IT for us, the engine of an entire offense.

Is he versatile enough to be effective though? He can score and he can rebound, but the two teams in the finals have the two most versatile 2 way players in the league, James and green

Do you mean is he versatile 1 way, or versatile 2 ways? His defense isn't a selling point. But if he gets back to what he was in Minnesota, it's not just that he can score, rebound, and shoot from long-range - he's good with the ball in his hands, he's a good pick and pop, screen and roll threat, he can post up. You have IT and Love, Horford is a perfect frontcourt complement offensively, then depending on what we've given up, at the least you've got Fultz or Jaylen at the 2, slashing to the basket.

The Houston Rockets would be a reference point - we win 55-60, and questions are how we cope defensively and how quickly our young players come along, or what we can get for them, but if Brown can play competent defense at the 2/3, that goes a long way.

[Andrew McCeltic]

I could also see us getting out of Horford's contract agreeably at that point - send him to Washington, where he almost signed, get Gortat and Mahinmi, send Ian somewhere else for a big contract, salary chip. You could do Horford to WAS, Gortat and Butler to BOS, Mahinmi, Jaylen + to Chicago for Butler.

[Darthlukey]

I doubt it but is there anything we can trade to Philly for the #3 that isn't brown or the bkn picks

[SmartWentCrazy]

I doubt it but is there anything we can trade to Philly for the #3 that isn't brown or the bkn picks

Nope, they should have no interest. BC is a wildcard, though, so who knows.

[jmr07019]

If we sign Hayward..... Crowder and Bradley to Indy for Myles Turner?

Indy gets a lot better and increases their chances of getting George to resign. We clear up minutes in the backcourt, save enough money to keep KO and fill the hole at center.

IT / Fultz / Rozier
Smart / Fultz / Brown
Hayward / Brown
Horford /KO / Yabs / Brown
Turner / KO / Zizic

[jmr07019]

I'm looking for any trades where we send out Bradley and Crowder and take back little enough salary where we can keep KO and sign Hayward. My list includes Aaron Gordon, Vucevic and Myles Turner. Not sure who else fits. Maybe you could send out Bradley and/or Crowder for a pick to take Isaac, Markkanen or Collins.

[GoCeltics123]

What is with the AD hate? The guy is 24 and a top 5 player in the league. That's a win-now and future looking move due to his age.

The only concern I have with him is injuries.