Sixers #3 for Celtics #1?

[vct33]

Any traction to this? What would it take to make this a balanced trade?

[Chris76]

Any traction to this? What would it take to make this a balanced trade?

#3 -Jackson, Holmes, and OKC 2020 1st
I like Jackson or Ball almost as much as Fultz. They seem close as prospects. Sixers have several forwards and Boston has the guards, so a switch seems possible.

[Texas Chuck]

I like Jackson or Ball almost as much as Fultz. They seem close as prospects. Sixers have several forwards and Boston has the guards, so a switch seems possible.

You might, but very few people do and so after waiting and hoping one of these Nets picks lands a potential star they aren't trading it for Holmes and the worst 1st rounder available for trade. That's not even trying to make a reasonable offer.

[Texas Chuck]

Also we've had a number of threads on this already, do we need another one?

[HartfordWhalers]

Any traction to this? What would it take to make this a balanced trade?

#3 -Jackson, Holmes, and OKC 2020 1st
I like Jackson or Ball almost as much as Fultz. They seem close as prospects. Sixers have several forwards and Boston has the guards, so a switch seems possible.

Thats way too low of an offer.

It would be a lot more like something like:
#3, better of LAL or Phi '18 1st (top 3 protected), Holmes,OKC 1st. And here I feel bad putting on the top 3 protection, but since I keep hearing from Celtic fans how theLakers will be leapfrogging so many teams it should be okay to have that little add on.

Or make it
#3, better of LAL or Phi '18 1st (top 5 protected),Saric for instance.

[Homerclease]

Simmons. Nothing less. Which is why a trade is very unlikely to happen. Celtics ownership is on record saying they would only trade the pick for the second coming and anything less than 3+ Simmons isn't enough to even keep me on the line

[freshie2]

I don't think you'd see #3 plus Simmons. I think there may be enough pieces in Philly's war chest to get it done, but Simmons and Embiid are probably easily off the table. In the whole discussion, they are the two highest ceiling pieces either team could offer.

[HartfordWhalers]

Simmons. Nothing less. Which is why a trade is very unlikely to happen. Celtics ownership is on record saying they would only trade the pick for the second coming and anything less than 3+ Simmons isn't enough to even keep me on the line

But thats pretty awful the other way you have to know.

[nolang1]

The Celtics have plenty of other pieces they could add to #1 to get Simmons + #3 and have it be a fair trade. #1 and Brown for Simmons and #3 is a fairly simple one that does a lot to balance both teams' rosters. Each team gets a #1 pick with skills more complementary to its best player, and Jackson is a much better prospect than Brown was.

[Homerclease]

Simmons. Nothing less. Which is why a trade is very unlikely to happen. Celtics ownership is on record saying they would only trade the pick for the second coming and anything less than 3+ Simmons isn't enough to even keep me on the line

But thats pretty awful the other way you have to know.

Sure, that's the cost of moving up for the top pick. Your franchise was in the same position last year. It would've taken a massive overpay to get you to move out of that slot. I would've been estatic as a Celtics fan to give you just Avery bradley to move up from 3 to 1 but obviously the sixers would've or did laugh and hang up the phone

[Homerclease]

The Celtics have plenty of other pieces they could add to #1 to get Simmons + #3 and have it be a fair trade. #1 and Brown for Simmons and #3 is a fairly simple one that does a lot to balance both teams' rosters. Each team gets a #1 pick with skills more complementary to its best player, and Jackson is a much better prospect than Brown was.

There is zero reason for the Celtics to include Brown or anything else. They hold all the power in any type of trade down deal. They can just sit still and draft Fultz and be perfectly happy. If they aren't getting one of the consensus top 8 players for this pick then they have to have their socks totally blown off to move

[GregB]

#1, Crowder and 2018 Boston First for Jackson, Saric, Holmes and either Lakers or Sacramento pick. The Celtics are going to want a lot.

[LordCovington33]

The Celtics have plenty of other pieces they could add to #1 to get Simmons + #3 and have it be a fair trade. #1 and Brown for Simmons and #3 is a fairly simple one that does a lot to balance both teams' rosters. Each team gets a #1 pick with skills more complementary to its best player, and Jackson is a much better prospect than Brown was.

There is zero reason for the Celtics to include Brown or anything else. They hold all the power in any type of trade down deal. They can just sit still and draft Fultz and be perfectly happy. If they aren't getting one of the consensus top 8 players for this pick then they have to have their socks totally blown off to move

The OP did ask for reasonable offers, not sth that will favor one side. By the way, they do not hold all the power, especially if they prefer another pick following the workouts.

Here is the problem, in my mind. Fultz is only trying out for one team. He has been in Boston for a week. Boston has been high on him. If they are willing to trade down, you must ask why. The Sixers will not be able to conduct a due diligence, so that question will be left unanswered. There is no chance of the sixers giving up #3 + last year's #1 for this year's #1 pick, let alone one who is not willing to try out for us and carries a question mark.

[Homerclease]

The Celtics have plenty of other pieces they could add to #1 to get Simmons + #3 and have it be a fair trade. #1 and Brown for Simmons and #3 is a fairly simple one that does a lot to balance both teams' rosters. Each team gets a #1 pick with skills more complementary to its best player, and Jackson is a much better prospect than Brown was.

There is zero reason for the Celtics to include Brown or anything else. They hold all the power in any type of trade down deal. They can just sit still and draft Fultz and be perfectly happy. If they aren't getting one of the consensus top 8 players for this pick then they have to have their socks totally blown off to move

The OP did ask for reasonable offers, not sth that will favor one side. By the way, they do not hold all the power, especially if they prefer another pick following the workouts.

Here is the problem, in my mind. Fultz is only trying out for one team. He has been in Boston for a week. Boston has been high on him. If they are willing to trade down, you must ask why. The Sixers will not be able to conduct a due diligence, so that question will be left unanswered. There is no chance of the sixers giving up #3 + last year's #1 for this year's #1 pick, let alone one who is not willing to try out for us and carries a question mark.

Which is why I said a trade is very unlikely to happen. There hasn't been any indication that Boston wants to trade down at all and the OP asked for a balanced trade. The only way a trade is balanced for me in this type of scenario is if someone is willing to offer a kings ransom to move up to number one.

They absolutely hold all the power when it comes to draft picks. They select first. They can just take whoever they want if they so choose

[eagereyez]

Simmons. Nothing less. Which is why a trade is very unlikely to happen. Celtics ownership is on record saying they would only trade the pick for the second coming and anything less than 3+ Simmons isn't enough to even keep me on the line

But thats pretty awful the other way you have to know.

Sure, that's the cost of moving up for the top pick. Your franchise was in the same position last year. It would've taken a massive overpay to get you to move out of that slot. I would've been estatic as a Celtics fan to give you just Avery bradley to move up from 3 to 1 but obviously the sixers would've or did laugh and hang up the phone

The difference between 1 and 3 this year isn't anywhere close to the difference between 1 and 3 last year.

[Spens1]

3 + Okafor?

celtics liked him at deadline so its a possibility i could see happening.

If not then one of Covington or Holmes. Fultz on the 76ers makes sense and Jackson is an ainge player through and through.

[Homerclease]

But thats pretty awful the other way you have to know.

Sure, that's the cost of moving up for the top pick. Your franchise was in the same position last year. It would've taken a massive overpay to get you to move out of that slot. I would've been estatic as a Celtics fan to give you just Avery bradley to move up from 3 to 1 but obviously the sixers would've or did laugh and hang up the phone

The difference between 1 and 3 this year isn't anywhere close to the difference between 1 and 3 last year.

Yes it is. The difference between 3 and 1 is always extreme. Regardless of our personal feelings about the prospects

[Chris76]

The Celtics have plenty of other pieces they could add to #1 to get Simmons + #3 and have it be a fair trade. #1 and Brown for Simmons and #3 is a fairly simple one that does a lot to balance both teams' rosters. Each team gets a #1 pick with skills more complementary to its best player, and Jackson is a much better prospect than Brown was.

Jackson is a great finisher and very good defender. Simmons and Jackson will be terrific in transiton. The Sixers can wait and pick who is left out of the 3 best prospects. Holmes made major improvements last year, a poor man's Ibaka. The Celtics could use him.

#3 Jackson, Holmes, 2019 Kings 1st, 2020 OKC 1st

[Homerclease]

3 + Okafor?

celtics liked him at deadline so its a possibility i could see happening.

If not then one of Covington or Holmes. Fultz on the 76ers makes sense and Jackson is an ainge player through and through.

Not even close.

[eagereyez]

Sure, that's the cost of moving up for the top pick. Your franchise was in the same position last year. It would've taken a massive overpay to get you to move out of that slot. I would've been estatic as a Celtics fan to give you just Avery bradley to move up from 3 to 1 but obviously the sixers would've or did laugh and hang up the phone

The difference between 1 and 3 this year isn't anywhere close to the difference between 1 and 3 last year.

Yes it is. The difference between 3 and 1 is always extreme. Regardless of our personal feelings about the prospects

It's not always extreme. The draft is separated into tiers of players. Last years draft had Simmons and Ingram in their own tier. This year Fultz, Ball, and Jackson are in a tier, although the drop from this tier is less steep. The cost to move from 3 to 1 is less than it was in last year's draft.

Even if you personally disagree with those tiers, basic reasoning should tell you that the cost of moving up depends on the draft. If a hypothetical draft has Durant, Lebron, and 28 Anthony Bennetts, then the cost of moving up from 3 to 1 in that draft should be significantly more than the cost of moving up from 3 to 1 in this draft.