The case for Jonathan Isaac

[Derento]

To show how ridiculous the 80% number being spouted is Deandre Jordan is assisted for 71%,Clint Capela 76% of his shots for their career.
Not even the centers who only catch Lobs and get putbacks have 80% assisted for their shots.

[DontPushMe]

Position and fit should play 0 part in this pick. We have nothing to build around. Whoever they think can most likely be a star needs to be the pick. We could trade the entire team and be no worse off at this point.

The team is dire right now.

[KillMonger]

My hype is beginning to wane a bit for issac when I really look at him play. As a wing he has something there but it's not quite at the level I though it would be. Is he a guy that can create for himself? At times, but he struggled to do this more often than I would like. Is he a knockdown shooter? Nah but he's respectable, can't leave him open. Is he blowing by guys? Not really, his first step is ok but you can see that at the college level some guys can stay with him.

Having a mediocre first step is ok if you're shifty/crafty or you can sauce guys, but Isaac's handle isn't really anything special. Pretty good for his size but nothing advanced or even close to even a Texas KD. Nothing though needs to be said defensively, he's the real deal on that end. He's definitely a project though, he has a lot of tools in his bag but i wished he showed more. Although that wasn't his role at FSU, he wasn't asked to do all that but I wished he was a bit more aggressive. Don't know if he's an alpha

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[yoyojw17]

Why is nobody saying Kevin Garnett-lite?

Look at youtube videos of Garnett in his rookie year. I think a lot of people are sleeping on Isaac because he seems like the riskiest pic of the perceived "Top-10" and you just dont know what you'll end up with from him. But boy after watching those old KG vids, if Isaac adds even a little bit of muscle, forget it.. Future perrenial All Star.

Funny thing.... I was saying the same exact thing to myself last night as i saw a magazine cover of duncan/tmac /KG from a while ago.... and i was seeing all these destination of him to the wolves. KG came into the league at 217 lb and finished his time at 240+ lb. i can definitely see how the KG comparison can be made. It was always trending to KD because of the SF moniker.

And to be honest with you... i don't think his floor is as low as others might think. I see him as having at the minimum high level role player abilities in a starting lineup. Which doesn't say much for most.... but that's not as risky when you think most won't even be sniffing the bench in a few years.

the thing that i liked about him was.... he played pf for the seminoles....."out of position".... and banged every night with guys that were bigger than him. (no puns intended lol) If he was soft.... then i would be a little more weary. Throw on an extra 20 lb of muscle.... and he would do the same in the NBA utilizing his length, speed and athleticism.

[yoyojw17]

To show how ridiculous the 80% number being spouted is Deandre Jordan is assisted for 71%,Clint Capela 76% of his shots for their career.
Not even the centers who only catch Lobs and get putbacks have 80% assisted for their shots.

thankfully we currently have a point guard that loooooooves dropping easy dimes!

[Blue_and_Whte]

No thanks we need a scorer not another project.

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[Skin]

My hype is beginning to wane a bit for issac when I really look at him play. As a wing he has something there but it's not quite at the level I though it would be. Is he a guy that can create for himself? At times, but he struggled to do this more often than I would like. Is he a knockdown shooter? Nah but he's respectable, can't leave him open. Is he blowing by guys? Not really, his first step is ok but you can see that at the college level some guys can stay with him.

Having a mediocre first step is ok if you're shifty/crafty or you can sauce guys, but Isaac's handle isn't really anything special. Pretty good for his size but nothing advanced or even close to a Texas KD. Nothing though needs to be said defensively, he's the real deal on that end. He's definitely a project though, he has a lot of tools in his bag but i wished he showed more. Although that wasn't his role at FSU, he wasn't asked to do all that but I wished he was a bit more aggressive. Don't know if he's an alpha

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Nobody is going to be excited about Isaac if they are evaluating him purely as a wing.

[axl_c_cool]

No thanks we need a scorer not another project.

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Every player comes in as some sort of project, who was the last player drafted who came in as a scorer in year 1 or even year 2? Kyrie? we're picking #6, not #1

[Nyce_1]

I really dont get the infatuation with this kid, he only average 12 ppg, 80% of that was assisted so he cant create for himself, hes to thin to play 4 isnt gifted enough to play 3, hes long, hes essentially maurice harkless 2.0, on a better team that be a fit for us, but hes not bpa at 6 imo

He's a Moe Harkless that is 2 inches taller, with a 6 inch longer reach and scores more ppg, shoots a better 3PT%, rebounds and blocks way more, blocks more, steals more and averages more assists, plus has more position versatility, and rather than be the type that complains about playing time on veteran squad, he comes in and makes them better... to the tune of turning them around from a 14th finish in the ACC the year before to busting everyone's expectations and finishing 2nd in the ACC behind the National Champs... if that's what you mean, then yeah... ok... he's that kind of Moe Harkless.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Moe-Harkless-6526/
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jonathan-Isaac-90052/

I'm with you on Isaac, believe me, but please don't put Moe Harkless and Jonathan Isaac in the same sentence lol. Say Rashard Lewis with defense instead.

He's not the shooter Sweet Lew was, and Rashard was a better defender than given credit for. Isaac is also muuuuch better with ball.

[The Real Dalic]

I'm actually getting pretty scared that we're going to pick him unless we trade up or one of the top 5 falls. I'm tired of not having a guy that defenses have to fear. We need that alpha who's out for blood on the offensive side. We need a guy who we can say "here, get us some buckets." when no one else is hitting. That's why I don't want him, he doesn't fit any of those categories.

I'm hoping for Tatum to fall or for us to trade up to get him. If he doesn't fall or if we can't trade up, than I'm all for DSJ or Monk. Not feeling Isaac at all.

[Nemesis21]

He's a Moe Harkless that is 2 inches taller, with a 6 inch longer reach and scores more ppg, shoots a better 3PT%, rebounds and blocks way more, blocks more, steals more and averages more assists, plus has more position versatility, and rather than be the type that complains about playing time on veteran squad, he comes in and makes them better... to the tune of turning them around from a 14th finish in the ACC the year before to busting everyone's expectations and finishing 2nd in the ACC behind the National Champs... if that's what you mean, then yeah... ok... he's that kind of Moe Harkless.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Moe-Harkless-6526/
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jonathan-Isaac-90052/

I'm with you on Isaac, believe me, but please don't put Moe Harkless and Jonathan Isaac in the same sentence lol. Say Rashard Lewis with defense instead.

He's not the shooter Sweet Lew was, and Rashard was a better defender than given credit for. Isaac is also muuuuch better with ball.

Not yet, he's only 19.

[cedric76]

Guys you need to listen Hammond s interview



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[Instincts]

Interesting...Lewis shot 33% from 3pt and 68% from the line his second year in the NBA (16.7% 3pt / 57% ft in first year on low volume). Then his percentages jumped up in his third year.

Isaac is at 34.8% from 3pt and 78% from the line his freshman year.

If Isaac becomes anywhere near the shooter Lewis was then we are looking at a serious two way player. And I understand the self shot creation concerns, but if his shot improves to Lewis levels, at 6'11" he will be able to get to his jumpshot without any issue and everything else will open up.

Lewis didn't have much shot creation, but man was he a lethal offensive player.

He's a Moe Harkless that is 2 inches taller, with a 6 inch longer reach and scores more ppg, shoots a better 3PT%, rebounds and blocks way more, blocks more, steals more and averages more assists, plus has more position versatility, and rather than be the type that complains about playing time on veteran squad, he comes in and makes them better... to the tune of turning them around from a 14th finish in the ACC the year before to busting everyone's expectations and finishing 2nd in the ACC behind the National Champs... if that's what you mean, then yeah... ok... he's that kind of Moe Harkless.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Moe-Harkless-6526/
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jonathan-Isaac-90052/

I'm with you on Isaac, believe me, but please don't put Moe Harkless and Jonathan Isaac in the same sentence lol. Say Rashard Lewis with defense instead.

He's not the shooter Sweet Lew was, and Rashard was a better defender than given credit for. Isaac is also muuuuch better with ball.

[3ddman23]

Guys you need to listen Hammond s interview



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Is there anyone to listen to the interview? I tried clicking on the link in the Hammond thread but it doesn't take me Anywhere.

[fbeye343]

Here's the link.

http://www.espn580orlando.com/common/more.php?m=49&post_id=18861

Isaac's asthma really scares me though

[tiderulz]

Interesting...Lewis shot 33% from 3pt and 68% from the line his second year in the NBA (16.7% 3pt / 57% ft in first year on low volume). Then his percentages jumped up in his third year.

Isaac is at 34.8% from 3pt and 78% from the line his freshman year.

If Isaac becomes anywhere near the shooter Lewis was then we are looking at a serious two way player. And I understand the self shot creation concerns, but if his shot improves to Lewis levels, at 6'11" he will be able to get to his jumpshot without any issue and everything else will open up.

Lewis didn't have much shot creation, but man was he a lethal offensive player.

I'm with you on Isaac, believe me, but please don't put Moe Harkless and Jonathan Isaac in the same sentence lol. Say Rashard Lewis with defense instead.

He's not the shooter Sweet Lew was, and Rashard was a better defender than given credit for. Isaac is also muuuuch better with ball.

young Lewis could create shots for himself

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[Nyce_1]

Isaac running PnR .... yes please. give me some of that at #6. With coaching, kid can be special.

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Him & AG can be lethal.

[cedric76]

Isaac running PnR .... yes please. give me some of that at #6. With coaching, kid can be special.

Watch on YouTube

Him & AG can be lethal.

Amen

[Skin]

I'm actually getting pretty scared that we're going to pick him unless we trade up or one of the top 5 falls. I'm tired of not having a guy that defenses have to fear. We need that alpha who's out for blood on the offensive side. We need a guy who we can say "here, get us some buckets." when no one else is hitting. That's why I don't want him, he doesn't fit any of those categories.

I'm hoping for Tatum to fall or for us to trade up to get him. If he doesn't fall or if we can't trade up, than I'm all for DSJ or Monk. Not feeling Isaac at all.

Team basketball > ISO basketball.

Kerr pretty much said it last night. Lebron and the Cavs are too ISO centric.

[Skin]

Isaac running PnR .... yes please. give me some of that at #6. With coaching, kid can be special.

Watch on YouTube

Him & AG can be lethal.

I see high IQ, a guy who can pass over defenders, a controlled dribble, and unselfish team basketball.