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2017 NBA DRAFT Part 3

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Re: 2017 NBA DRAFT Part 3 

Post#641 » by Rockmaninoff » Tue Jun 6, 2017 10:11 pm

machu46 wrote:Reading Ford's mock now. A couple things that jumped out at me:
1. Luke Kennard reportedly measured with a 38.5" vert.
2. John Collins going one pick ahead of us :( reports continue to pour in that he's shot the ball very well in workouts, with Ford suggesting he could possibly end up being a stretch 4 in the NBA.
3. Regarding BAM!: "Adebayo is steadily rising back up draft boards and a very strong pro day has scouts buzzing again, especially at the terrific feet that allow him to guard multiple positions."
4. Ford has Frank Jackson at 25 compared to DX having him at 39.
5. Ford says that Terrence Ferguson has been struggling in workouts; apparently worked out against Kennard and that's been a reason Kennard's stock has risen and Ferg's has declined.


That's interesting on Kennard. He must have roasted Ferguson.
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Re: 2017 NBA DRAFT Part 3 

Post#642 » by Baddy Chuck » Tue Jun 6, 2017 10:14 pm

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machu46 wrote:Reading Ford's mock now. A couple things that jumped out at me:
1. Luke Kennard reportedly measured with a 38.5" vert.
2. John Collins going one pick ahead of us :( reports continue to pour in that he's shot the ball very well in workouts, with Ford suggesting he could possibly end up being a stretch 4 in the NBA.
3. Regarding BAM!: "Adebayo is steadily rising back up draft boards and a very strong pro day has scouts buzzing again, especially at the terrific feet that allow him to guard multiple positions."
4. Ford has Frank Jackson at 25 compared to DX having him at 39.
5. Ford says that Terrence Ferguson has been struggling in workouts; apparently worked out against Kennard and that's been a reason Kennard's stock has risen and Ferg's has declined.


That's interesting on Kennard. He must have roasted Ferguson.

Not surprising. Ferguson's been living off that "he's long and atheltic so he's a defender" despite him not being a good defender.
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Re: 2017 NBA DRAFT Part 3 

Post#643 » by Rockmaninoff » Tue Jun 6, 2017 10:16 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:i like Jackson but I can't shake this feeling that we'd be picking him for need rather than BPA at #17.


What's BPA?

For the Bucks, I think that's still whatever player is the best in 5 years.

Wouldn't that player become their best by having a clear opportunity?
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Post#644 » by Baddy Chuck » Tue Jun 6, 2017 10:17 pm

Fotis St wrote:He did really well hitting those 3pts drill in LA :o

Josh Hart #17 ?

The "Vice President"


He's seriously underrated. I wouldn't have a problem with him at 17.
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Post#645 » by SupremeHustle » Tue Jun 6, 2017 10:40 pm

I think I want to trade up for Zach Collins. That dude is going to be good.
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Post#646 » by SupremeHustle » Tue Jun 6, 2017 10:41 pm

No way would I draft Ferguson over some of the guys I think will be available.
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Post#647 » by SupremeHustle » Tue Jun 6, 2017 10:44 pm

Delly & 17 for 10 (Kings). Let's go!
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Post#648 » by RiotPunch » Wed Jun 7, 2017 1:04 am

SupremeHustle wrote:I think I want to trade up for Zach Collins. That dude is going to be good.

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Post#649 » by Pachinko_ » Wed Jun 7, 2017 1:22 am

kennard in our defensive scheme..... ehmmmm nah
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Post#650 » by Chuck Diesel » Wed Jun 7, 2017 1:25 am

I'd prefer to trade back and pick up abother asset.
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Post#651 » by drone3 » Wed Jun 7, 2017 3:55 am

SupremeHustle wrote:I think I want to trade up for Zach Collins. That dude is going to be good.

I'm in the trade up for Zach boat!
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Post#652 » by skones » Wed Jun 7, 2017 4:17 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
Fotis St wrote:He did really well hitting those 3pts drill in LA :o

Josh Hart #17 ?

The "Vice President"


He's seriously underrated. I wouldn't have a problem with him at 17.

There won't be 16 better players than him in this draft. Also very high on him. He's a decade long career guy and winning teams will want him. I have a really hard time not seeing him becoming at least Courtney Lee.

Hell also make us better on day 1.

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Post#653 » by Chuck Diesel » Wed Jun 7, 2017 6:19 am

Oh I forgot Aleksandar Vezenkov was in this draft. He's the probably the guy I've seen the most out of any prospect, Euro or otherwise. Not a super high ceiling but I think he's an NBA contributor in the right situation.
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Post#654 » by drone3 » Wed Jun 7, 2017 8:35 am

Can someone remind me why Bam is #24? With Dwight like potential seems way too low. Is everyone sleeping on Bam?
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Post#655 » by Fotis St » Wed Jun 7, 2017 11:44 am

drone3 wrote:Can someone remind me why Bam is #24? With Dwight like potential seems way too low. Is everyone sleeping on Bam?


Question is what is Dwight in modern NBA ?
What is Biyombo, what is Deandre ?

Some can say their overall impact in their franchise is negative. Overpaid, no offense, no FT% forces to be benched on clutch time, clog lane-no mid range game, zero floor stretch... They can't lead their team to a win but they are paid like superstars. So you shouldn't ask why BAM is so low? In fact he is even nowhere neat the size of DeAndre or Howard and the last time we saw a "mini Howard" Joey Dorsey, he didn't do anything and I wonder if he is still in the NBA. I think LAL cut him last time I remember him. These guys should be 2nd round in my opinion.
Edit: just googled Joey Dorsey he plays in Turkey

What is the difference between Joey Dorsey and Bam or Bell or Anigbogu ?

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Post#656 » by machu46 » Wed Jun 7, 2017 12:16 pm

Fotis St wrote:
drone3 wrote:Can someone remind me why Bam is #24? With Dwight like potential seems way too low. Is everyone sleeping on Bam?


Question is what is Dwight in modern NBA ?
What is Biyombo, what is Deandre ?

Some can say their overall impact in their franchise is negative. Overpaid, no offense, no FT% forces to be benched on clutch time, clog lane-no mid range game, zero floor stretch... They can't lead their team to a win but they are paid like superstars. So you shouldn't ask why BAM is so low? In fact he is even nowhere neat the size of DeAndre or Howard and the last time we saw a "mini Howard" Joey Dorsey, he didn't do anything and I wonder if he is still in the NBA. I think LAL cut him last time I remember him. These guys should be 2nd round in my opinion.
Edit: just googled Joey Dorsey he plays in Turkey

What is the difference between Joey Dorsey and Bam or Bell or Anigbogu ?



Nobody truly thinks DeAndre has a negative impact on the Clippers right? The guy just made All-NBA the past three years lol. There's really no argument to suggest otherwise.

Even Dwight pretty indisputably still helps teams even though his play has fallen off a bit the past few years.

Unlike Biyombo, the other two are both still serious threats offensively.
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Re: 2017 NBA DRAFT Part 3 

Post#657 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Jun 7, 2017 1:47 pm

Joey Dorsey is a 6'7 PF/C in shoes with a 7'1 wingspan. Pretty sure that's the reason why he's not in the NBA, not because of some skill deficiency. It's like saying "what's the difference between Chuck Hayes and Ben Wallace?"

BAM! is 6'10 with a near 7'3 wingspan, and shot 65% from the line. He isn't gonna hurt you in late-game situations.
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Post#658 » by Jimmmycrackcorn » Wed Jun 7, 2017 1:55 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Joey Dorsey is a 6'7 PF/C in shoes with a 7'1 wingspan. Pretty sure that's the reason why he's not in the NBA, not because of some skill deficiency. It's like saying "what's the difference between Chuck Hayes and Ben Wallace?"

BAM! is 6'10 with a near 7'3 wingspan, and shot 65% from the line. He isn't gonna hurt you in late-game situations.


I really like Bam's toughness as well..... Frankly, while the Bucks are long, they're not tough. They could use some muscle down low where matchups have Thon getting shoved around.
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Re: 2017 NBA DRAFT Part 3 

Post#659 » by Nowak008 » Wed Jun 7, 2017 1:56 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:I think I want to trade up for Zach Collins. That dude is going to be good.


:nod: Why do we both love big American white boys? Ellenson last year and Collins this year. I've got Collins #4 on my big board right now...could maybe talk me into being #3 after Fultz/Ball
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Re: 2017 NBA DRAFT Part 3 

Post#660 » by Ron Swanson » Wed Jun 7, 2017 2:03 pm

There's always that underrated Kentucky big with boat loads of potential that I get enamored with every draft. Just remember I was banging the "sign Alex Poythress to a 10-day contract" drum before it was cool :D

I really don't see what's not to like about BAM! If the dude buys into his role, he can be a pick & roll monster in the NBA. I'm not saying he's Amare Stoudemire, but I think his offensive potential is higher than most of these other athletic rim-runners (Ike, Allen).

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