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Pick-n-Roll --- Portland Compared to Denver

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Pick-n-Roll --- Portland Compared to Denver 

Post#1 » by NuggetsWY » Tue Jun 6, 2017 2:27 pm

http://www.denverstiffs.com/2017/6/3/15734198/mason-plumlee-deserves-another-chance-denver-nuggets-nba-free-agency

OK, I don't agree with everything in this article, but it's not bad. I think his analysis of Portland's pick-n-roll vs. Denver's offense is fairly good.
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Re: Pick-n-Roll --- Portland Compared to Denver 

Post#2 » by The Rebel » Wed Jun 7, 2017 11:57 pm

It is a good article to a point, but there are a couple of things it ignores. Portland struggled this year partially because of the fact that Plumlee could not shoot from even the mid-range and teams figured it out after the Warriors started playing off Plumlee and killing the roll on the pick and roll and forcing the guards to shoot the outside shots.

If Plumlee would develop at least a 38% + midrange shot than he would be considerably more effective than he is now.

My problem with Plumlee is not his ability, but with his fit. I would prefer a shotblocker, but with his low qualifying offer than if the Nuggets actually build the team than he can be resigned after a couple of guys are brought in to a market value contract and is likely going to be the best option available.
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Re: Pick-n-Roll --- Portland Compared to Denver 

Post#3 » by NuggetsWY » Thu Jun 8, 2017 1:06 am

The Rebel wrote:It is a good article to a point, but there are a couple of things it ignores. Portland struggled this year partially because of the fact that Plumlee could not shoot from even the mid-range and teams figured it out after the Warriors started playing off Plumlee and killing the roll on the pick and roll and forcing the guards to shoot the outside shots.

If Plumlee would develop at least a 38% + midrange shot than he would be considerably more effective than he is now.

My problem with Plumlee is not his ability, but with his fit. I would prefer a shotblocker, but with his low qualifying offer than if the Nuggets actually build the team than he can be resigned after a couple of guys are brought in to a market value contract and is likely going to be the best option available.

Don't remind me. We traded a center that fit in their starting lineup for a rental on a center that we may or may not keep, plus we gave them a 1st.
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Re: Pick-n-Roll --- Portland Compared to Denver 

Post#4 » by The Rebel » Fri Jun 9, 2017 2:21 pm

NuggetsWY wrote:
The Rebel wrote:It is a good article to a point, but there are a couple of things it ignores. Portland struggled this year partially because of the fact that Plumlee could not shoot from even the mid-range and teams figured it out after the Warriors started playing off Plumlee and killing the roll on the pick and roll and forcing the guards to shoot the outside shots.

If Plumlee would develop at least a 38% + midrange shot than he would be considerably more effective than he is now.

My problem with Plumlee is not his ability, but with his fit. I would prefer a shotblocker, but with his low qualifying offer than if the Nuggets actually build the team than he can be resigned after a couple of guys are brought in to a market value contract and is likely going to be the best option available.

Don't remind me. We traded a center that fit in their starting lineup for a rental on a center that we may or may not keep, plus we gave them a 1st.


I think most of us long term nuggets fans know the real deal was Nurkic for Plumlee and a 2nd, then selling the 1st for $2.85 million. It is a fact of life as a Nuggets fan Kroenke will never hesitate to sell a mid or late 1st round pick to make or save money. The draft would look so much better if we had the 20th pick, where you could trade up with the 13th and Barton or Chandler for a good forward prospect, and take a flyer on a high ceiling guy with the 20th pick.
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Re: Pick-n-Roll --- Portland Compared to Denver 

Post#5 » by NuggetsWY » Fri Jun 9, 2017 6:35 pm

The Rebel wrote:
NuggetsWY wrote:
The Rebel wrote:It is a good article to a point, but there are a couple of things it ignores. Portland struggled this year partially because of the fact that Plumlee could not shoot from even the mid-range and teams figured it out after the Warriors started playing off Plumlee and killing the roll on the pick and roll and forcing the guards to shoot the outside shots.

If Plumlee would develop at least a 38% + midrange shot than he would be considerably more effective than he is now.

My problem with Plumlee is not his ability, but with his fit. I would prefer a shotblocker, but with his low qualifying offer than if the Nuggets actually build the team than he can be resigned after a couple of guys are brought in to a market value contract and is likely going to be the best option available.

Don't remind me. We traded a center that fit in their starting lineup for a rental on a center that we may or may not keep, plus we gave them a 1st.


I think most of us long term nuggets fans know the real deal was Nurkic for Plumlee and a 2nd, then selling the 1st for $2.85 million. It is a fact of life as a Nuggets fan Kroenke will never hesitate to sell a mid or late 1st round pick to make or save money. The draft would look so much better if we had the 20th pick, where you could trade up with the 13th and Barton or Chandler for a good forward prospect, and take a flyer on a high ceiling guy with the 20th pick.

Exactly right - Josh's motto: "Money over all winning any day."

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