2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread IV

SelfishPlayer · Post #661 » by **SelfishPlayer** » Wed Jun 7, 2017 6:20 pm

PG De'aaron Fox
SG TLC
SF Gordon Hayward
PF Ben Simmons
C Embiid
2018 Finals

BigSleep333 · Post #662 » by **BigSleep333** » Wed Jun 7, 2017 7:35 pm

SelfishPlayer wrote:PG De'aaron Fox
SG TLC
SF Gordon Hayward
PF Ben Simmons
C Embiid
2018 Finals

^tlc and fox in the s5? dont think finals would be realistic with that...

while this pretty much guarantees the finals:

lowry
butler
covington
simmons
embiid

LongLiveHinkie · Post #663 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Wed Jun 7, 2017 7:56 pm

What in the hell has happened to this topic? Has everyone lost their damn minds?

At this rate I'm going to read tomorrow that we can grab Fultz with one of our 2nd round picks and OG Anunoby might go #1 overall.

LloydFree · Post #664 » by **LloydFree** » Wed Jun 7, 2017 8:03 pm

OleSchool wrote:
Chris76 wrote:
PhilBlackson wrote:
That would be hilarious imo and unbelievably good break that suddenly one of Fultz or Ball is available.

It's amazing how underrated Fox has become. He is a better defender than Fultz or Ball. He is lightning quick and a great midrange game. I think #1 is a reach, but i would like him a lot on the sixers. A defender that could slow down Westbrook or harden is very valuable in the playoffs.

Underrated? Fox has had the biggest rise since the end of the CBB season. I remember seeing mocks with him at like 8 -10. Now I see him possibly up to 2.

I dont think anyone is underrating Fox, if anything people are overrating him

All it took was a few tweets about "unnamed sources" saying the Lakers are considering him, now suddenly he's under-rated. Unreal. I'm surprised every story from these unnamed sources are about teams trading up for Fox. No stories at all about teams wanting to trade up for Fultz, Ball or Jackson. I wonder why...

the_process · Post #665 » by **the_process** » Wed Jun 7, 2017 9:40 pm

51X3RF4N wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:

Man, just imagine....

Who is this dude? His head is awfully funny looking.

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Derrick Smith out of Colorado. Dude will go right up there with Sam "ET" Cassell as ugliest NBA'ers. :lol:

Unbreakable99 · Post #666 » by **Unbreakable99** » Wed Jun 7, 2017 9:49 pm

Lonzo is going to be a star.

Read on Twitter

Kobblehead · Post #667 » by **Kobblehead** » Wed Jun 7, 2017 9:53 pm

Markelle Fultz being the consensus #1 in a draft with Lonzo Ball and Josh Jackson is incredible for the teams picking #2 and #3.

LloydFree · Post #668 » by **LloydFree** » Wed Jun 7, 2017 10:04 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Markelle Fultz being the consensus #1 in a draft with Lonzo Ball and Josh Jackson is incredible for the teams picking #2 and #3.

The only problem is the only consensus of Fultz being #1 is on basketball Forums. I've yet to here any NBA executives or any people employed by the NBA say Fultz is the #1 prospect.

Unbreakable99 · Post #669 » by **Unbreakable99** » Wed Jun 7, 2017 10:19 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Markelle Fultz being the consensus #1 in a draft with Lonzo Ball and Josh Jackson is incredible for the teams picking #2 and #3.

I just heard Eddie House and Metta World Peace say Boston should take Ball and he's the best player in the draft. I love Ball. I may root for the Lakers if they take him lol. He's going to bring a title back to LA.

51X3RF4N · Post #670 » by **51X3RF4N** » Wed Jun 7, 2017 10:27 pm

BigSleep333 wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:PG De'aaron Fox
SG TLC
SF Gordon Hayward
PF Ben Simmons
C Embiid
2018 Finals

^tlc and fox in the s5? dont think finals would be realistic with that...

while this pretty much guarantees the finals:

lowry
butler
covington
simmons
embiid

I want this lineup but also want a strong deep bench behind those starters. I would also like Covington replaced by a stronger more experienced vet. And having essentially 2 rookies in your front court might not bode well come playoff time.

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ET Da Gawd · Post #671 » by **ET Da Gawd** » Wed Jun 7, 2017 10:35 pm

Ball
Free Agent
Simmons
Saric
Embiid
..How do you stop that ball movement?! Plz I pray we can land lonzo

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Aussiepiston1 · Post #672 » by **Aussiepiston1** » Wed Jun 7, 2017 11:46 pm

the_process wrote:
51X3RF4N wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:

Man, just imagine....

Who is this dude? His head is awfully funny looking.

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Derrick Smith out of Colorado. Dude will go right up there with Sam "ET" Cassell as ugliest NBA'ers.

Derrick White actually :lol:

Ericb5 · Post #673 » by **Ericb5** » Thu Jun 8, 2017 12:14 am

Unbreakable99 wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Markelle Fultz being the consensus #1 in a draft with Lonzo Ball and Josh Jackson is incredible for the teams picking #2 and #3.

I just heard Eddie House and Metta World Peace say Boston should take Ball and he's the best player in the draft. I love Ball. I may root for the Lakers if they take him lol. He's going to bring a title back to LA.

I love Ball too. His dad is a mess, but I love him as a player. I think he goes to LA and will be great there.

I'm completely happy with Jackson for us though.

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PhilBlackson · Post #674 » by **PhilBlackson** » Thu Jun 8, 2017 12:16 am

Read on Twitter

Watch on YouTube

Yeah I would have no problem trading back for 5 & 10 when this would be the supposed "worst" case lol

Kobblehead · Post #675 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu Jun 8, 2017 12:22 am

Ntilikina's defensive instincts and fundamentals are at a ridiculous level. His wingspan compounding those two things makes it outright unfair.

Kobblehead · Post #676 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu Jun 8, 2017 12:30 am

Unbreakable99 wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Markelle Fultz being the consensus #1 in a draft with Lonzo Ball and Josh Jackson is incredible for the teams picking #2 and #3.

I just heard Eddie House and Metta World Peace say Boston should take Ball and he's the best player in the draft. I love Ball. I may root for the Lakers if they take him lol. He's going to bring a title back to LA.

I have no problem with that take.

Personally, I think Josh Jackson is a more impactful player archetype so I'd take him #1, but Ball was arguably the most transcendent freshmen performer last year.

LloydFree · Post #677 » by **LloydFree** » Thu Jun 8, 2017 1:16 am

I still won't believe that Danny Ainge selects Markelle Fultz, until I actually see it. I just can't see Ainge putting himself in position to watch his historical rival get Lonzo Ball, then have to listen to the comparisons and/or criticisms of that pick until they both retire. And I also can't believe he'd want to allow his team to have to watch the 76ers run with Simmons, Jackson and Embiid for the next 5-7 years. He can't let that happen. I just can't see it.

the_process · Post #678 » by **the_process** » Thu Jun 8, 2017 2:00 am

Aussiepiston1 wrote:
the_process wrote:
51X3RF4N wrote:Who is this dude? His head is awfully funny looking.

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Derrick Smith out of Colorado. Dude will go right up there with Sam "ET" Cassell as ugliest NBA'ers.

Derrick White actually

My bad. Could've sworn it was Smith. Maybe got confused with that swingman the Sixers had back in the Barkley days. :lol:

freshie2 · Post #679 » by **freshie2** » Thu Jun 8, 2017 2:03 am

What is the translatable elite level skill that Jackson brings to the game? I bought in on the elite level wing defender who can score, but the measurable and tape don't support that for me. He didn't appear to dominate guards/wings on defense, and doesn't appear to have the length to have the edge on pro 4's. Shooting had been addressed ad nauseum and is a negative as well. How us he consensus top 3?

SelfishPlayer · Post #680 » by **SelfishPlayer** » Thu Jun 8, 2017 2:11 am

freshie2 wrote:What is the translatable elite level skill that Jackson brings to the game? I bought in on the elite level wing defender who can score, but the measurable and tape don't support that for me. He didn't appear to dominate guards/wings on defense, and doesn't appear to have the length to have the edge on pro 4's. Shooting had been addressed ad nauseum and is a negative as well. How us he consensus top 3?

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