The Real Dalic wrote:yoyojw17 wrote:Skin wrote:Good stuff. That's the thing.. people were initially concerned... is he going to fit with Gordon?
More obvious answer is he fits with our young core and our young core fits with him.
Payton needs the ball in his hands and he's best offensively when he's being aggressive. Gordon thrives playing off the ball, making cuts, and playing close to the rim. Isaac thrives playing off the ball, but not just close, but away from the rim too. What's the number? 80% of his 3s were assisted? Nice. He'll space the floor for Payton or Gordon to attack the paint or be the kickout for their passes or dump it back inside to them as he draws out the defense. The creativity, spread, ball movement and equal opportunity we can generate can lead to harmonious team concept basketball.
Exactly how i feel about it too. Throw in his intensity on defense into the soup.... and we can place a competing team on the court every night.
Competing for what though? 35 wins? We need to finally start not just hoping for the playoffs, but knowing that making it is a forgone conclusion, then, we need to break through the first round and keep improving until we can win a championship. I don't think Isaac does that. If this was a weak draft with players much less talented than DSJ and Tatum, I'd be excited as well. But this is perceived to be too strong a draft to settle on a mediocre 3 and D player. We need stars.
yes..... competing.... as in we are in the game and possibly winning it every time we hit the floor... which inevitably leads to winning seasons, and playoff.... and championships. Not like this last season when we were surprised that we won the game. If you see his ceiling as being a 3 and D player.... I can totally see where your position is coming from. But.... I for one see that as his floor.... with stardom as being a true possibility. So he is definitely worth consideration at our position.
The Real Dalic wrote:Skin wrote:yoyojw17 wrote:Payton would have a field day with those two playing the forward positions!
looking at his offensive and defensive ratings 126.1 and 96.8 respectfully in ACC Conference (ranked the toughest conference in the Division 1 last year) is very impressive especially for a low use player.... he is obviously doing something right. Great team basketball is the foundation of a winning team. Maximizing one anothers talents and running with it.
By the way.... Bacons (Off: 104.1 Def: 107.4) and Mayes's (Off: 112 Def: 104) ratings weren't even close.
Good stuff. That's the thing.. people were initially concerned... is he going to fit with Gordon?
More obvious answer is he fits with our young core and our young core fits with him.
Payton needs the ball in his hands and he's best offensively when he's being aggressive. Gordon thrives playing off the ball, making cuts, and playing close to the rim. Isaac thrives playing off the ball, but not just close, but away from the rim too. What's the number? 80% of his 3s were assisted? Nice. He'll space the floor for Payton or Gordon to attack the paint or be the kickout for their passes or dump it back inside to them as he draws out the defense. The creativity, spread, ball movement and equal opportunity we can generate can lead to harmonious team concept basketball.
It seems like you're trying to say that Isaac being the 2nd or 3rd option to the core we have is exciting and could potentially lead to wins. But we're still missing that true first or second option, that's what I want, DSJ and Tatum have better potential to become a number 1, imo. Isaac is the player you draft when you have your 3 main guys in place, not the guy you hope can become a franchise player. I want us to swing for the fences, not settle for another mediocre role player. . . We have enough of those.
Or that he should have been given more of a chance to be a higher option at the end of the day. Your comment would have been more valid IF Bacon and Mayes' number were similar to Isaac's..... then that would have shown that his was just along for the ride doing the little things. But instead his numbers point to the fact that he can produce large results on both ends of the court. Contrary to most beliefs.... we sucked on both ends of the court and a player like him will help dramatically. I would be a little mor skeptical of him if he was soft. but watching a 210 lb play bang with the bigboys down low...... Where some might see weakness.... i can see his toughness and grit. Take a step back and playing the role asked of him.... one can say he is soft.... i can see his maturity and respect for his craft.
With that said.... i believe that his combination of size, athleticism and skills are something special. and in time could be something unique all together. With the proper development... i can see him as the player that you desire. therefore @ #6.... he can definitely be a viable option.
needless to say.... the GM and his crew are the ones with the best understanding of all these players. I'm going to trust in their decisions and hope that it is the best one!
