2017 Draft

[skywalker33]

The way I see it with our two 2nds one will definitely be a draft-n-stash guy like Birutis.. is the 49th pick someone who can come in as a backup/ G-league guy for this year ?

Do you think they'll fill all three G-League slots? It seems with the European players, they'll probably leave them in Europe and let someone else pay them.

While not as immediate as the D-league, isn't that what we use European leagues as ?? I also think it give the Nuggets FO more reason to go over and build relations with Euro coaches & players, part of our scouting processes.

[skywalker33]

Not sure who mentioned him first, but looking into him more I really like Jordon Bell, could easily be a Faried replacement coming off the bench. Also, even though not a need for the Nuggets I really like Sindarius Thornwell, solid defender who can score.

I heard (and took note of) the Nuggets identifying their biggest need and addressing it in the draft. Last year it was shooting and lo and behold we we 3 guys who can shoot. This year's theme seems to be defense, a need OG fits perfectly therefore who I project them to select. (although I keep hearing more and more he may miss significant time due to his injury/surgery)

[NuggetsWY]

The way I see it with our two 2nds one will definitely be a draft-n-stash guy like Birutis.. is the 49th pick someone who can come in as a backup/ G-league guy for this year ?

Do you think they'll fill all three G-League slots? It seems with the European players, they'll probably leave them in Europe and let someone else pay them.

While not as immediate as the D-league, isn't that what we use European leagues as ?? I also think it give the Nuggets FO more reason to go over and build relations with Euro coaches & players, part of our scouting processes.

Yeah, I agree. Now if we had some more draft choices, we could stash them in the G-League and fill our last 5 slots with veteran minimum players.

[NuggetsWY]

Not sure who mentioned him first, but looking into him more I really like Jordon Bell, could easily be a Faried replacement coming off the bench. Also, even though not a need for the Nuggets I really like Sindarius Thornwell, solid defender who can score.

I heard (and took note of) the Nuggets identifying their biggest need and addressing it in the draft. Last year it was shooting and lo and behold we we 3 guys who can shoot. This year's theme seems to be defense, a need OG fits perfectly therefore who I project them to select. (although I keep hearing more and more he may miss significant time due to his injury/surgery)

Not sure I was first, but I mentioned Bell a few days ago. I saw him discussed on another team's board. Sorta' liked what I heard.

Haven't heard much about Thornwell, but I think I like what I see.

[NuggetsWY]

Pistons apparently want to move #12 for an established veteran. We have veterans. Any thoughts on having picks 12 and 13?

Would love that, don't believe Malone or Connelly would like it. No doubt they want veterans.

[U hova]

I'm never going to get used to G-league

[The Rebel]

So who is the guy one that, were the Nuggets select him you'd go #!%$#?* ????

For me it's TJ Leaf....good offensive guy but not real athletic, reminds me of a poor man Tom Gugliotta

I hope it is a smokescreen but Dempsey was just on Altitude radio and was really talking up Leaf. More than Hastings has ever done.

[NuggetsWY]

So who is the guy one that, were the Nuggets select him you'd go #!%$#?* ????

For me it's TJ Leaf....good offensive guy but not real athletic, reminds me of a poor man Tom Gugliotta

I hope it is a smokescreen but Dempsey was just on Altitude radio and was really talking up Leaf. More than Hastings has ever done.

I hope it's a smoke screen but he's talked about him before.

[skywalker33]

So who is the guy one that, were the Nuggets select him you'd go #!%$#?* ????

For me it's TJ Leaf....good offensive guy but not real athletic, reminds me of a poor man Tom Gugliotta

I hope it is a smokescreen but Dempsey was just on Altitude radio and was really talking up Leaf. More than Hastings has ever done.

I hope it's a smoke screen but he's talked about him before.

If they're true to their pattern, can't see them selecting Leaf, he's not really known for his lockdown defense

[TunaFish]

With the 13th pick, it is a little difficult to guess what player might be available. I think it is more than obvious that the Nuggets are looking for a big to play with Jokic, probably a stretch 4 who can add defense. As loaded as this draft may be for point guards, there is not a lot of buzz about the bigs.

That may work to the Nuggets' advantage as some quality bigs might slip to the mid-first. My view is that they will pass on small forwards or guards and maybe try to resign Gallo, leaving an obvious need for an upgrade at power forward. That seems to be the consensus on this board. Hard not to argue that Faried would be a better energy guy from the bench.

My only concern is that there a lot of "flawed" bigs in this draft. Perhaps they roll dice on one based on upside and hope they hit a home run like they did with Jokic. I would prefer that they address the issue in free agency.

[NuggetsWY]

With the 13th pick, it is a little difficult to guess what player might be available. I think it is more than obvious that the Nuggets are looking for a big to play with Jokic, probably a stretch 4 who can add defense. As loaded as this draft may be for point guards, there is not a lot of buzz about the bigs.

That may work to the Nuggets' advantage as some quality bigs might slip to the mid-first. My view is that they will pass on small forwards or guards and maybe try to resign Gallo, leaving an obvious need for an upgrade at power forward. That seems to be the consensus on this board. Hard not to argue that Faried would be a better energy guy from the bench.

My only concern is that there a lot of "flawed" bigs in this draft. Perhaps they roll dice on one based on upside and hope they hit a home run like they did with Jokic. I would prefer that they address the issue in free agency.

Probably not the consensus on this board - or at least leave me out of that.
If Gallinari is not resigned, we need a SF for certain and looking long term, I think we need a SF. Hernangomez could play some SF but in the long-term, he's probably a PF. Whatever rookie we draft this year will not be starting or even playing much for a year or two - not with Malone's philosophy. So we are not drafting for this year.

I will restate that a stretch-4 that can play D is not the answer everyone seems to state. Teams set picks to cause switches and bring bigs outside and smalls down low. Just look at the playoffs. Sure, we need a rim protecting stretch-PF but the real answer on defense is mobility and intelligence.

[skywalker33]

With the 13th pick, it is a little difficult to guess what player might be available. I think it is more than obvious that the Nuggets are looking for a big to play with Jokic, probably a stretch 4 who can add defense. As loaded as this draft may be for point guards, there is not a lot of buzz about the bigs.

That may work to the Nuggets' advantage as some quality bigs might slip to the mid-first. My view is that they will pass on small forwards or guards and maybe try to resign Gallo, leaving an obvious need for an upgrade at power forward. That seems to be the consensus on this board. Hard not to argue that Faried would be a better energy guy from the bench.

My only concern is that there a lot of "flawed" bigs in this draft. Perhaps they roll dice on one based on upside and hope they hit a home run like they did with Jokic. I would prefer that they address the issue in free agency.

Agree that we need defense next to Jokic but I don't think it has to be a PF, Anunoby is considered a SF (can play some PF I believe) and I am still under the impression he's the best choice.

[skywalker33]

Great writeup on Jonathon Isaac by the Stiffs which I agree with 100%. Not only would we be strengthening our own core/team, we keep him away from the T-Pups who I consider one of our chief rivals for the future.

http://www.denverstiffs.com/2017/6/11/15777742/denver-stiffs-denver-nuggets-nba-draft-prospect-watch-jonathan-isaac

Pairing him with Hernangomez would allow so much flexibility as both are interchangeable. As long as we don't trade our core of Jokic/Juancho/Murray/Harris, I'm in !!

[Logan18]

Hello All!

So I took my draft obsession to an entirely new level this year lol, and made an excel spreadsheet detailing my Top 60 prospects for the Nuggets. I assigned each player a ranking, which basically shows what I think the Nuggets Big Board should look like. It takes into account the overall skills/measurements of each player, along with how they would fit with the Nuggets. I entered each player's position, age, height, wingspan, weight, PER, and per 40 stats (points, assists, rebounds, steals, blocks, turnovers, fouls, 2p%, 3p%, and FT%). All of these categories can be sorted from highest to lowest and vice versa.

I also just finished adding offensive, defensive, and total win shares for each player. Since this stat is directly correlated with how many minutes a player plays, I also added total minutes played, and used some math to make a new, "adjusted win shares" section.

Overall, it's pretty interesting to look at each prospects numbers compared side by side with other prospects. All of my data came from pretty reputable online sites, so I think it should be pretty accurate. Hopefully the link I share below works, and you all can play around on the spreadsheet if you want!

Link: https://1drv.ms/x/s!AtmTRUuNoRjBagMpvPONzpxOLA0

[NuggetsWY]

Hello All!

So I took my draft obsession to an entirely new level this year lol, and made an excel spreadsheet detailing my Top 60 prospects for the Nuggets. I assigned each player a ranking, which basically shows what I think the Nuggets Big Board should look like. It takes into account the overall skills/measurements of each player, along with how they would fit with the Nuggets. I entered each player's position, age, height, wingspan, weight, PER, and per 40 stats (points, assists, rebounds, steals, blocks, turnovers, fouls, 2p%, 3p%, and FT%). All of these categories can be sorted from highest to lowest and vice versa.

I also just finished adding offensive, defensive, and total win shares for each player. Since this stat is directly correlated with how many minutes a player plays, I also added total minutes played, and used some math to make a new, "adjusted win shares" section.

Overall, it's pretty interesting to look at each prospects numbers compared side by side with other prospects. All of my data came from pretty reputable online sites, so I think it should be pretty accurate. Hopefully the link I share below works, and you all can play around on the spreadsheet if you want!

Link: https://1drv.ms/x/s!AtmTRUuNoRjBagMpvPONzpxOLA0

Impressive for sure - I'll spend some time on it today!

[U hova]

While we're at it I guess i'll plug in my friend too

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1tspkG_luoyNMvCAVicsNr9OkR4CU-g2u5NvAryUJPzA/edit#slide=id.p

He's pretty high on names like Isaac and OG.

[NuggetsWY]

While we're at it I guess i'll plug in my friend too

https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1tspkG_luoyNMvCAVicsNr9OkR4CU-g2u5NvAryUJPzA/edit#slide=id.p

He's pretty high on names like Isaac and OG.

He's also got the Nuggets selecting a 6'3" combo guard. Unless the Nuggets are planning on doing a lot of trades of guards, there's no room for another short guard. We already have:

Nelson - Murray - Mudiah
Harris - Barton - Beasley

Of course we all know Malone likes small-ball. So maybe we can play 3 or 4 guards at the same time - ridiculous.

[The Rebel]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246224/Wolves-Expected-To-Pursue-Jrue-Holiday-George-Hill-Jeff-Teague

Twolves open to trading the 7th pick as well now. So that means the 1st, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, and 10th pick have all been rumored to be available this summer already. I know people say this is a great draft, but they have said the same thing for many years including last year, and I would say teams are showing they are not thrilled with some of the prospects.

I know Giles and Annouby both had injury problems, but prior to this year were rumored to be potential top 5 picks, but there were supposed to be a lot more good talent this year and it just does not seem to be true.

[NuggetsWY]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246224/Wolves-Expected-To-Pursue-Jrue-Holiday-George-Hill-Jeff-Teague

Twolves open to trading the 7th pick as well now. So that means the 1st, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, and 10th pick have all been rumored to be available this summer already. I know people say this is a great draft, but they have said the same thing for many years including last year, and I would say teams are showing they are not thrilled with some of the prospects.

I know Giles and Annouby both had injury problems, but prior to this year were rumored to be potential top 5 picks, but there were supposed to be a lot more good talent this year and it just does not seem to be true.

Teams like to say "great draft" because it gets the fans excited.

I think though this one isn't "great" in terms of potential superstars. Many players are talked about that way, but Fultz and Jackson seem like the only extremely likely to overachieve IMO.

I think teams are willing to trade down because the next 15 or so picks are relatively close in value.

[The Rebel]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/246224/Wolves-Expected-To-Pursue-Jrue-Holiday-George-Hill-Jeff-Teague

Twolves open to trading the 7th pick as well now. So that means the 1st, 3rd, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, and 10th pick have all been rumored to be available this summer already. I know people say this is a great draft, but they have said the same thing for many years including last year, and I would say teams are showing they are not thrilled with some of the prospects.

I know Giles and Annouby both had injury problems, but prior to this year were rumored to be potential top 5 picks, but there were supposed to be a lot more good talent this year and it just does not seem to be true.

Teams like to say "great draft" because it gets the fans excited.

I think though this one isn't "great" in terms of potential superstars. Many players are talked about that way, but Fultz and Jackson seem like the only extremely likely to overachieve IMO.

I think teams are willing to trade down because the next 15 or so picks are relatively close in value.

Actually Fultz and Jackson are not that likely to overachieve either, both reportedly are great prospects but they both have big holes in their games. With Fultz reportedly being rather lackadaisical and Jackson's shot. Most see the best prospect as being Ball, but the reports of him showing up to his Lakers workout out of shape is a terrible sign. The draft this one reminds me of is the 2014 draft, especially with the projected number 1 overall pick being Wiggins who was thought to have the same issues as Fultz. While there are some good players from that draft, it was not nearly as good as was hyped prior to it. It could be argued that we ended up with 2 of the top 6 or 7 players from that draft picking 16th and 19th, and 2 of those that are better than Harris and Nurkic have been injury prone. I hope to hell we do not overpay to move up, and still like the idea of moving down and collecting a couple of prospects.