Snapbacks and Handshakes: The 2017 Draft (Raps pick #23)

[PhilBlackson]

Chad Ford's last mock (6.0) had us taking Jonathan Jeanne, obviously prior to the news he had Marfan's Syndrome...

1. Boston Celtics (via Nets) - Markelle Fultz
2. L.A. Lakers - Lonzo Ball
3. Philadelphia 76ers - Josh Jackson
4. Phoenix Suns - De'Aaron Fox
5. Sacramento Kings - Jayson Tatum
6. Orlando Magic - Jonathan Isaac
7. Minnesota Timberwolves - Lauri Markkanen
8. New York Knicks - Malik Monk
9. Dallas Mavericks - Dennis Smith
10. Sacramento Kings (via Pelicans) - Frank Ntilikina
11. Charlotte Hornets - Donovan Mitchell
12. Detroit Pistons - Luke Kennard
13. Denver Nuggets - OG Anunoby
14. Miami Heat - Zach Collins
15. Portland Trail Blazers - Harry Giles
16. Chicago Bulls - John Collins
17. Milwaukee Bucks - Ike Anigbogu
18. Indiana Pacers - TJ Leaf
19. Atlanta Hawks - Jarrett Allen
20. Portland Trail Blazers - Edrice Adebayo
21. Oklahoma City Thunder - Justin Jackson
22. Brooklyn Nets - Justin Patton
23. Toronto Raptors - Jonathan Jeanne
24. Utah Jazz - Andzejs Pasecniks
25. Orlando Magic - Frank Jackson
26. Portland Trail Blazers - Isaiah Hartenstein
27. Brooklyn Nets - Terrance Ferguson
28. Los Angeles Lakers - D.J. Wilson
29. San Antonio Spurs - Tony Bradley
30. Utah Jazz - Rodions Kurucs

Apparently Bam's stock is back on the rise...

20. Portland Trail Blazers (via Grizzlies): Edrice Adebayo

This is the second first-rounder for the Blazers. They've been shopping this around and at least one team, the Knicks, appears interested. It's doubtful Portland keeps all three first-round picks.

Adebayo is steadily rising back up draft boards and a very strong pro day has scouts buzzing again, especially at the terrific feet that allow him to guard multiple positions.

Whether this pick is for the Blazers or someone else, there's real value there.

Again I get the feeling it will be Semi or Kuzma, however I always seem to forget about Hartenstein and I remember hearing about Masai scouting him several times...damn the draft can't come quick enough!

[MavCarter]

Do people realize that even the spurs hit on a late draft pick every 4-5 years? You're not going to draft a great player every single year, come back to reality with the high ass expectations you have with masai and drafting. I'd love someone to find me a GM with a perfect drafting record

[HeadtopChunes]

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[Psubs]

Do people realize that even the spurs hit on a late draft pick every 4-5 years? You're not going to draft a great player every single year, come back to reality with the high ass expectations you have with masai and drafting. I'd love someone to find me a GM with a perfect drafting record

The OKC GM was on a roll with Durant, Westbrook, Harden and then Ibaka, but couldn't keep them together.

[Psubs]

Chad Ford's last mock (6.0) had us taking Jonathan Jeanne, obviously prior to the news he had Marfan's Syndrome...

1. Boston Celtics (via Nets) - Markelle Fultz
2. L.A. Lakers - Lonzo Ball
3. Philadelphia 76ers - Josh Jackson
4. Phoenix Suns - De'Aaron Fox
5. Sacramento Kings - Jayson Tatum
6. Orlando Magic - Jonathan Isaac
7. Minnesota Timberwolves - Lauri Markkanen
8. New York Knicks - Malik Monk
9. Dallas Mavericks - Dennis Smith
10. Sacramento Kings (via Pelicans) - Frank Ntilikina
11. Charlotte Hornets - Donovan Mitchell
12. Detroit Pistons - Luke Kennard
13. Denver Nuggets - OG Anunoby
14. Miami Heat - Zach Collins
15. Portland Trail Blazers - Harry Giles
16. Chicago Bulls - John Collins
17. Milwaukee Bucks - Ike Anigbogu
18. Indiana Pacers - TJ Leaf
19. Atlanta Hawks - Jarrett Allen
20. Portland Trail Blazers - Edrice Adebayo
21. Oklahoma City Thunder - Justin Jackson
22. Brooklyn Nets - Justin Patton
23. Toronto Raptors - Jonathan Jeanne
24. Utah Jazz - Andzejs Pasecniks
25. Orlando Magic - Frank Jackson
26. Portland Trail Blazers - Isaiah Hartenstein
27. Brooklyn Nets - Terrance Ferguson
28. Los Angeles Lakers - D.J. Wilson
29. San Antonio Spurs - Tony Bradley
30. Utah Jazz - Rodions Kurucs

Apparently Bam's stock is back on the rise...

20. Portland Trail Blazers (via Grizzlies): Edrice Adebayo

This is the second first-rounder for the Blazers. They've been shopping this around and at least one team, the Knicks, appears interested. It's doubtful Portland keeps all three first-round picks.

Adebayo is steadily rising back up draft boards and a very strong pro day has scouts buzzing again, especially at the terrific feet that allow him to guard multiple positions.

Whether this pick is for the Blazers or someone else, there's real value there.

Again I get the feeling it will be Semi or Kuzma, however I always seem to forget about Hartenstein and I remember hearing about Masai scouting him several times...damn the draft can't come quick enough!

If Ferguson is there I take him. He went to Australia to take care of his family financially.

Portland should offer Crabbe, Turner and #20 to NY for Carmelo. Turner might do well in the triangle.

[Tofubeque]

Also even though I want us to draft Bolden, I keep getting the feeling that we're going to draft either Semi or Kuzma. While Semi did well in individual workouts, he did very poorly in actual 5-on-5 which imo is a bit more telling about how good a player is when actually competing where as Kuzma excelled. I know his name has been mentioned in this thread but I am surprised that he doesn't get anywhere near as much buzz as Semi...

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Yes I didn't really see the wing footwork skills with Semi. Never mind what we think of Rudy Gay if you look at the way he gets around, how smooth he is, Semi just does not project that. Will say there are people who are sort of rough operators and are skilled at playing the game. Kuzma I like a lot. The mocks baffle me this year. Kuzma looks like a much better prospect than Wilson and a first rounder but are we going to get Dwayne more scoring in this draft?

Wilson has 20 lbs and 4" of wingspan on Kuzma, is more explosive, shoots a better % from 3, and is 6 months younger. In what way is Kuzma a better prospect??

[Badonkadonk]

Do people realize that even the spurs hit on a late draft pick every 4-5 years? You're not going to draft a great player every single year, come back to reality with the high ass expectations you have with masai and drafting. I'd love someone to find me a GM with a perfect drafting record

The OKC GM was on a roll with Durant, Westbrook, Harden and then Ibaka, but couldn't keep them together.

Only Ibaka fits that criteria (24th). Durant (2nd), Westbrook (4th) and Harden (3rd) were all highly regarded lottery picks that were expected to go near the top of the draft.

He's 100% right, late draft picks turning into impact players are statistically rare.

[Tofubeque]

Also even though I want us to draft Bolden, I keep getting the feeling that we're going to draft either Semi or Kuzma. While Semi did well in individual workouts, he did very poorly in actual 5-on-5 which imo is a bit more telling about how good a player is when actually competing where as Kuzma excelled. I know his name has been mentioned in this thread but I am surprised that he doesn't get anywhere near as much buzz as Semi...

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Yes I didn't really see the wing footwork skills with Semi. Never mind what we think of Rudy Gay if you look at the way he gets around, how smooth he is, Semi just does not project that. Will say there are people who are sort of rough operators and are skilled at playing the game. Kuzma I like a lot. The mocks baffle me this year. Kuzma looks like a much better prospect than Wilson and a first rounder but are we going to get Dwayne more scoring in this draft?

Wilson has 20 lbs and 4" of wingspan on Kuzma, is more explosive, shoots a better % from 3, and is 6 months younger. In what way is Kuzma a better prospect??

I'll amend this. According to combine measurements, it's more like a 10lb difference in weight and 3" difference in wingspan. 2" difference in standing reach.

But the shooting splits are more pronounced than I thought: Wilson shot 5.2% better from 3, 7% better from the field, and 16% better from the FT line I hope to god we don't spend our 1st rounder on Kuzma with the PFs that will still be on the board.

[OAKLEY_2]

Also even though I want us to draft Bolden, I keep getting the feeling that we're going to draft either Semi or Kuzma. While Semi did well in individual workouts, he did very poorly in actual 5-on-5 which imo is a bit more telling about how good a player is when actually competing where as Kuzma excelled. I know his name has been mentioned in this thread but I am surprised that he doesn't get anywhere near as much buzz as Semi...

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Yes I didn't really see the wing footwork skills with Semi. Never mind what we think of Rudy Gay if you look at the way he gets around, how smooth he is, Semi just does not project that. Will say there are people who are sort of rough operators and are skilled at playing the game. Kuzma I like a lot. The mocks baffle me this year. Kuzma looks like a much better prospect than Wilson and a first rounder but are we going to get Dwayne more scoring in this draft?

Wilson has 20 lbs and 4" of wingspan on Kuzma, is more explosive, shoots a better % from 3, and is 6 months younger. In what way is Kuzma a better prospect??

Statistically in terms numbers put up Kuzma kicks his arse. If you are a power forward and you put up 5 boards in college you are scaring me.

[OAKLEY_2]

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"KK Crvena Zvezda signs Jonah Bolden to a two-year contract
Bolden remains in Serbia" -June 10th 2017

[HeadtopChunes]

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"KK Crvena Zvezda signs Jonah Bolden to a two-year contract
Bolden remains in Serbia" -June 10th 2017

There's apparently an nba opt out clause in the contract so that may change things.

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[MavCarter]

So bolden becomes a draft and stash? Didn't the deadline pass to pull out?

[HeadtopChunes]

So bolden becomes a draft and stash? Didn't the deadline pass to pull out?

Deadline is on Monday.

Looks like Rodions Kurucs is considering pulling out.

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[OAKLEY_2]

Also even though I want us to draft Bolden, I keep getting the feeling that we're going to draft either Semi or Kuzma. While Semi did well in individual workouts, he did very poorly in actual 5-on-5 which imo is a bit more telling about how good a player is when actually competing where as Kuzma excelled. I know his name has been mentioned in this thread but I am surprised that he doesn't get anywhere near as much buzz as Semi...

Watch on YouTube

Yes I didn't really see the wing footwork skills with Semi. Never mind what we think of Rudy Gay if you look at the way he gets around, how smooth he is, Semi just does not project that. Will say there are people who are sort of rough operators and are skilled at playing the game. Kuzma I like a lot. The mocks baffle me this year. Kuzma looks like a much better prospect than Wilson and a first rounder but are we going to get Dwayne more scoring in this draft?

Wilson has 20 lbs and 4" of wingspan on Kuzma, is more explosive, shoots a better % from 3, and is 6 months younger. In what way is Kuzma a better prospect??

I'll amend this and say Raptors probably do not reach for Kuzma but could conceivably trade down. For example and mentioned Kings trade Afflalo and 34th pick for Demarre Carroll and the 23rd pick - Raps take Kuzma.

[C_Money]

I'd take Kuzma over Wilson. Just seems like he's the better all around player.

[Troubadour]

Jonathan Givony said on a podcast that Semi Ojeleye is one of his favourite prospects in the draft. (Locked On)

Good listen for other prospects

[HeadtopChunes]

Jonathan Givony said on a podcast that Semi Ojeleye is one of his favourite prospects in the draft. (Locked On)

Good listen for other prospects

Care to share a link?

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[Psubs]

Jonathan Givony said on a podcast that Semi Ojeleye is one of his favourite prospects in the draft. (Locked On)

Good listen for other prospects

I think he could go as high as #15. In their mock, after Zach Collins, I don't see why he couldn't be drafted before the others.

[WeTheNorth123]

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goddd! i hope not, this is the guy at the top of my list

[Troubadour]

Jonathan Givony said on a podcast that Semi Ojeleye is one of his favourite prospects in the draft. (Locked On)

Good listen for other prospects

Care to share a link?

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http://www.draftexpress.com/article/podcast-jonathan-givony-nba-draft-talk-with-david-locke-5993/