Fantasy Trade Thread

[XtremeDunkz]

Middleton is very valuable to the Bucks, can't see us trading him to Philly if we aren't getting #3 in return.

Could potentially see us including other assets (like #17) as part of a broader package including Okafor is what I meant.

Then again Middleton is a perfect fit with Giannis, only 24, and under contract for years to come.

However the Warriors look so dominant that if the Bucks are serious about winning a ring we might be better off pushing our window back and targeting another superstar caliber player vs Khris who might top out as a Klay Thompson level star.

Middleton is not worth number 3. End the pipe dream.

[the_process]

Middleton is very valuable to the Bucks, can't see us trading him to Philly if we aren't getting #3 in return.

Could potentially see us including other assets (like #17) as part of a broader package including Okafor is what I meant.

Then again Middleton is a perfect fit with Giannis, only 24, and under contract for years to come.

However the Warriors look so dominant that if the Bucks are serious about winning a ring we might be better off pushing our window back and targeting another superstar caliber player vs Khris who might top out as a Klay Thompson level star.

3 for Middleton is a no go. Rather talk to you guys about Okafor plus ? equals 17.

[raferfenix]

Okafor, Stauskas, and 39 for Teletovic and 17?

Interesting, Hammond was very high on players available at 17, but he is gone so who knows.

If Okafor has a higher ceiling that might be worth it for us.

That said, Thon closed out the season with some serious flashes, and as badly as we could use scoring in the post there might be easier ways to fill the void with so many bigs on the market.

[Unbreakable99]

Middleton is very valuable to the Bucks, can't see us trading him to Philly if we aren't getting #3 in return.

Could potentially see us including other assets (like #17) as part of a broader package including Okafor is what I meant.

Then again Middleton is a perfect fit with Giannis, only 24, and under contract for years to come.

However the Warriors look so dominant that if the Bucks are serious about winning a ring we might be better off pushing our window back and targeting another superstar caliber player vs Khris who might top out as a Klay Thompson level star.

I like Middleton quite a bit but I'm not giving up the 3rd pick for him.

[Kobblehead]

Middleton is a tough trade to get the value right for. He's overrated as a needle mover but his contract is excellent. I don't think he's worth a Top 5 pick, though.

My best offer would be Saric and Kormaz for Middleton. I'd fully expect the Bucks to turn it down.

[51X3RF4N]

Fyi to the Bucks fan...Middleton is actually 25 and will be 26 in a few months.

I would offer all 2nd round picks, Okafor, Stauskas, and Covington in a deal for him.

Whether a 3rd team is involved or not is fine. But he's making around what Cov will make. He's about the same age as Cov. And does about the same things with better shooting. Meh.


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[Chris76]

[quote="51X3RF4N"]Fyi to the Bucks fan...Middleton is actually 25 and will be 26 in a few months.

I would offer all 2nd round picks, Okafor, Stauskas, and Covington in a deal for him.

Whether a 3rd team is involved or not is fine. But he's making around what Cov will make. He's about the same age as Cov. And does about the same things with better shooting. Meh.


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Covington is a much better defender than Middleton. Middleton is a nice shooter, but Covington isn't too far behind and should improve even more with better talent around him.

[Ericb5]

Middleton would be awesome for us. I wouldn't trade 3 for him, but I would probably trade Saric, and a top 10 protected pick for him.


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[CasuallyDressed]

#3 and Okafor for Rubio and #7?

terrible fit..no

MIN gets Okafor and 3
NYK gets Rubio
PHI gets 7, 8, and Noah

Knick fans won't go for that, but I'd eat Noah and let them take Rubio to get 8. Minny seems like they're getting off way too cheaply here, though. They should be adding something. 2018 pick swap on the PHI 1st?

Seeing the name "Noah" and "Philly gets" in the same line made me want to projectile vomit.

We have so much cap, but it's not to be wasted on... waste.

[the_process]

ORL gets 4 and 50
PHX gets Okafor and 3
PHI gets 6, 25, and 2021 MIA 1st

FA/Bayless/McConnell
Thornwell/TLC/Stauskas
Covington/Issac/Anderson
Simmons/Saric/Long
Embiid/Holmes/2nd

With extra 1sts in the next 4 drafts.

[XtremeDunkz]

ORL gets 4 and 50
PHX gets Okafor and 3
PHI gets 6, 25, and 2021 MIA 1st

FA/Bayless/McConnell
Thornwell/TLC/Stauskas
Covington/Issac/Anderson
Simmons/Saric/Long
Embiid/Holmes/2nd

With extra 1sts in the next 4 drafts.

Move back 3 spots plus Jah for number 25? That would be awful value.

That Mia 1st could be useless by then.

[youngcrev]

ORL gets 4 and 50
PHX gets Okafor and 3
PHI gets 6, 25, and 2021 MIA 1st

FA/Bayless/McConnell
Thornwell/TLC/Stauskas
Covington/Issac/Anderson
Simmons/Saric/Long
Embiid/Holmes/2nd

With extra 1sts in the next 4 drafts.

Move back 3 spots plus Jah for number 25? That would be awful value.

That Mia 1st could be useless by then.

Or, it could be worth a lot... Not sure why you'd completely factor that MIA pick out of the equation.

For me, 25 wouldn't be enough to drop from 4 to 6 and risk missing out on their guy, so I'd at the very least take Orlando out of the equation.

[the_process]

CJ, Leonard, and 15 from POR for Okafor, 3, and 50.

Simmons/Bayless/McConnell
CJ/Thornwell/Stauskas
Covington/TLC/Anderson
Saric/Leonard/Long
Embiid/Holmes/2nd

[the_process]

One more stupid trade today:

AD, Asik, and Hill from NO for Okafor, Covington, Saric, 3, Lakers pick, and Kings pick.

Lowry?/Bayless/McConnell
TLC/Stauskas/Anderson
Simmons/Hill/2nd
AD/FA/Long
Embiid/Holmes/Asik

[DowJones]

Do you guys think LeBron would trade Kyrie and Tristan for Embiid straight up? For the record I wouldn't do it but do you think LeBron does?

No way. Embiid is hurt all the time and I am not 100% sure he could play in a series against a Golden State when things inevitably go small.

[Unbreakable99]

Do you guys think LeBron would trade Kyrie and Tristan for Embiid straight up? For the record I wouldn't do it but do you think LeBron does?

No way. Embiid is hurt all the time and I am not 100% sure he could play in a series against a Golden State when things inevitably go small.

You may very well be right that LeBron would never sign off on that even if Embiid is guaranteed to stay healthy but I disagree that Embiid might not be able to play against GS. Too many people try to matchup against GS when they have advantages elsewhere. When you have a beast like Embiid you don't worry about the other team going small and trying to match up to them. You make them adjust to you. Ok so GS goes small and puts KD or Green at Center. They would get crushed by Embiid. Absolutely CRUSHED. You don't take Embiid out. GS would not even go small if Embiid is out there. He's not one of those scoring deficient Centers and you don't have to worry about him scoring. And Embiid can hold his own on defense outside the paint. If they want to draw him away from the basket I would not think it's a mismatch to have Embiid guard Draymond. Embiid would just lag off of him and let him shoot 3s. Embiid has the foot speed to stay with him if he tries to drive. Embiid can't guard Durant though. Someone else would have to check him.

[Chris76]

Do you guys think LeBron would trade Kyrie and Tristan for Embiid straight up? For the record I wouldn't do it but do you think LeBron does?

No way. Embiid is hurt all the time and I am not 100% sure he could play in a series against a Golden State when things inevitably go small.

You may very well be right that LeBron would never sign off on that even if Embiid is guaranteed to stay healthy but I disagree that Embiid might not be able to play against GS. Too many people try to matchup against GS when they have advantages elsewhere. When you have a beast like Embiid you don't worry about the other team going small and trying to match up to them. You make them adjust to you. Ok so GS goes small and puts KD or Green at Center. They would get crushed by Embiid. Absolutely CRUSHED. You don't take Embiid out. GS would not even go small if Embiid is out there. He's not one of those scoring deficient Centers and you don't have to worry about him scoring. And Embiid can hold his own on defense outside the paint. If they want to draw him away from the basket I would not think it's a mismatch to have Embiid guard Draymond. Embiid would just lag off of him and let him shoot 3s. Embiid has the foot speed to stay with him if he tries to drive. Embiid can't guard Durant though. Someone else would have to check him.

Embiid, Simmons, and Covington are a good start for a competitive defensive team. Guarding a point guard like Curry, Harden, and Westbrook is a major challenge. Clay Thompson seems to defend them better than most. Maybe, we could Bring back Jakarr Sampson, surprisingly at 6'9 he could defend pgs well, just joking. Fox would be the best prospect to defend elite pgs. Jackson would be the best prospect to defend Durant and elite shooting forwards. Anyway, it should be interesting to see how the sixers and others try to defend the warriors in the future.

[AdotSmoove]

Have we broken down the Jah + #3 for #5+#10 yet?


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[AdotSmoove]

Do you guys think LeBron would trade Kyrie and Tristan for Embiid straight up? For the record I wouldn't do it but do you think LeBron does?

No way. Embiid is hurt all the time and I am not 100% sure he could play in a series against a Golden State when things inevitably go small.

Embiid (if healthy) could definitely play if GSW went small. Especially if it's Draymond at the 5 instead of Durant, but I think he could defend Durant too. The lateral quickness he displayed jumping screens and trapping ball handlers crossing half court was breathtaking. Plus even with GSW shooting constant threes Embiid would devour their D like Shaq at a clip close to 70% but actually hit his free throws. GSW would have to shoot greater than 50% just to compete. I've never seen a guy so big and so fast except Magic Shaq and even that doesn't capture it all because Shaq never had Embiid's lateral quickness. He needs to stay healthy, but Embiid is not the guy that adjusts for the Warriors, the Warriors will need to figure out how to slow him down. Through 31 games this year there wasnt a team that figured out how to stop him, this year Embiid stopped himself with foul trouble, mins restriction and being out of control. Health will resolve problem two and the other two problems are rookie mistakes. Embiid won't commit those forever and when he doesn't who in the league will stop him? Demarcus was able to match his offensive output but he certainly was stopping Embiid. And Embiid will body the **** out of Gobert. Dude is an absolute specimen.


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[51X3RF4N]

Agreed. The potential of Embiid to be an absolutely unstoppable monster is there. The fact that he can dominate down low or step out and hit, or face up and take his man with a sky hook...plus when they can't stop him they'll foul him and he will make teams pay at the line.

Man I am excited for this season.

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