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2017 Lakers Draft Pick Discussion

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Who do the Lakers draft on June 22nd with the 2nd overall pick?

Poll ended at Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:11 pm

Lonzo Ball
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Josh Jackson
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Total votes: 123

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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#961 » by TyCobb » Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:55 pm

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TyCobb wrote:The Lakers have met and spoken with Lonzo Ball. They have developed a strategy in order to get him into a Lakers uniform. They could have easily forewarned him about the 'leaks' and to 'pay no attention' to these reports and know that this is the course of business to make Lonzo in LA happen so it won't hurt his feelings. If this is even coming from the FO...if this is from reporters, then it's a good time to start writing their names down so we can laugh at them later and dismiss any future information from them.

It is very entertaining to me.

What "strategy" do they need to choose him? They have the 2nd pick and the team choosing 1st isn't going to take him. The only strategy they need is to simply pick him.


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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#962 » by TylersLakers » Mon Jun 12, 2017 2:02 pm

Spanish_Laker wrote:It looks like 2015 all over again. Do you remember when we all thought we were going to draft Okafor? There was a strong unanimity among fellow Laker fans and social media that Okafor was going to be picked. And then, step by step, it looked like DLo was a real possibility...And eventually we FORTUNATELY picked him. Can it happen the same with year with Lonzo fading and Fox/Jackson coming up?


I get what you're saying and there is some parallel's, however, Okafor was a dying breed as a back to the basket big man with not much athleticism. I wasn't happy with Russell, but I was happy with the reasoning as to why we took him over Okafor. That's just the way the NBA was going and the proof is in the pudding today.

Now, with all the analytical numbers that are out there, I can't see what would drive anyone to pick Fox or Jackson over Ball. And then when you also factor in the rest of the Lakers roster, Ball is the only pick that needs to be made.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#963 » by TylersLakers » Mon Jun 12, 2017 2:05 pm

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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#964 » by Pointgod » Mon Jun 12, 2017 2:10 pm

Spanish_Laker wrote:It looks like 2015 all over again. Do you remember when we all thought we were going to draft Okafor? There was a strong unanimity among fellow Laker fans and social media that Okafor was going to be picked. And then, step by step, it looked like DLo was a real possibility...And eventually we FORTUNATELY picked him. Can it happen the same with year with Lonzo fading and Fox/Jackson coming up?


I've brought up this point before. I still think the Lakers go with Ball because I think he has the highest floor of the remaining prospects that could go number 2. However I do believe that the Lakers have legitimate doubts about Ball, so I hope they'd trade down to grab the guy the really want if Balls not the one.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#965 » by nymets1 » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:24 pm

I wonder if Lakers would consider taking Ivan Rabb at 28th pick? He played at California and wonder if the lakers would draft the local guy.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#966 » by NBAWestFan » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:58 pm

Gus McCrae wrote:I guess I can warm up to Jackson though Ball excites me. But doesn't Jackson pretty much replicate Ingram's skill set? Throw in PG13 and one of them needs to go



I am also thinking if not Ball

Josh Jackson. I see the can't shoot but he doesn't have bad form. Anyone can learn to shoot but if they have

un-orthodox shot it could be hard to unlearn.

I say if Magic doesn't select Ball I would think the taller Jackson. He plays D.

If you get JJ then you are got a young team and maybe not need to sign PG 13 but you need
to get some better bigs who defend and rebound.

I think JJ is more athletic than Ingram. I would have taken JJ over Ingram if they were in the same draft.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#967 » by Kilroy » Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:06 pm

Jackson is basically an older, worse, shorter version of Brandon Ingram...
Since Ingram appears to be 'off-limits,' and we seem committed to him... Why would we use the 2nd pick to draft a poor mans version of him?
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#968 » by Yunsta » Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:20 pm

I dont see the lakers drafting a non guard with this pick
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#969 » by JHFVF07 » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:26 pm

NBAWestFan wrote:
Gus McCrae wrote:I guess I can warm up to Jackson though Ball excites me. But doesn't Jackson pretty much replicate Ingram's skill set? Throw in PG13 and one of them needs to go



I am also thinking if not Ball

Josh Jackson. I see the can't shoot but he doesn't have bad form. Anyone can learn to shoot but if they have

un-orthodox shot it could be hard to unlearn.

I say if Magic doesn't select Ball I would think the taller Jackson. He plays D.

If you get JJ then you are got a young team and maybe not need to sign PG 13 but you need
to get some better bigs who defend and rebound.

I think JJ is more athletic than Ingram. I would have taken JJ over Ingram if they were in the same draft.
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Ingram had better/equal numbers than Jackson on their freshman year, he is younger, so, if he had returned to school this year probability tells he would have even better numbers, so, do you think you would pick Jackson over Ingram if he was a sophomore playing this year(even being younger)?

Is there a possibility Lakers are devaluating Ball, cause the FO is trying to trade down(something like #2+Deng for #5) and hopes no one draft him so we can pick him? cause if we take a look on the news, the team seems to like all top prospects not named Ball. Logic tells that if we dont like him, we should prize him trying to make some other team bite the lure and give us good value to trade up, right?
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#970 » by Michael Lucky » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:37 pm

Definitely would consider DSJ with the fifth pick.

Almost seems to me like the Lakers are fishing for trade offers at 2.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#971 » by NBAWestFan » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:43 pm

Kilroy wrote:Jackson is basically an older, worse, shorter version of Brandon Ingram...
Since Ingram appears to be 'off-limits,' and we seem committed to him... Why would we use the 2nd pick to draft a poor mans version of him?



They are not the same player.
You gotta watch the high lights.

JJ is very quick, Athletic. He is a lot quicker than Ingram. Defense is a lot better.

Igram should play down by the paint as he puts on mass.

JJ is a perimeter defender who is more like a Pippen type. Good nose for the ball and very quick to get at it.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#972 » by spikeslovechild » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:45 pm

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NBAWestFan wrote:
Gus McCrae wrote:I guess I can warm up to Jackson though Ball excites me. But doesn't Jackson pretty much replicate Ingram's skill set? Throw in PG13 and one of them needs to go



I am also thinking if not Ball

Josh Jackson. I see the can't shoot but he doesn't have bad form. Anyone can learn to shoot but if they have

un-orthodox shot it could be hard to unlearn.

I say if Magic doesn't select Ball I would think the taller Jackson. He plays D.

If you get JJ then you are got a young team and maybe not need to sign PG 13 but you need
to get some better bigs who defend and rebound.

I think JJ is more athletic than Ingram. I would have taken JJ over Ingram if they were in the same draft.
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Ingram had better/equal numbers than Jackson on their freshman year, he is younger, so, if he had returned to school this year probability tells he would have even better numbers, so, do you think you would pick Jackson over Ingram if he was a sophomore playing this year(even being younger)?

Is there a possibility Lakers are devaluating Ball, cause the FO is trying to trade down(something like #2+Deng for #5) and hopes no one draft him so we can pick him? cause if we take a look on the news, the team seems to like all top prospects not named Ball. Logic tells that if we dont like him, we should prize him trying to make some other team bite the lure and give us good value to trade up, right?


I think part of the problem with Ball is you already have Russell. You can't play them together defensively. So you basically have to move him to the bench.

Also honestly I'm sort of hoping for the same thing you are if the Lakers select Jackson some team is interested in the flash of ball and decides to trade up. I don't think Jackson gets past us at 3 and if he does there is no way he gets past the Suns. So if you trade down to 5 probably the BPA are going to be Issac, Tatum, or Fox.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#973 » by jay51024 » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:48 pm

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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#974 » by madmaxmedia » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:07 pm

JHFVF07 wrote:Is there a possibility Lakers are devaluating Ball, cause the FO is trying to trade down(something like #2+Deng for #5) and hopes no one draft him so we can pick him? cause if we take a look on the news, the team seems to like all top prospects not named Ball. Logic tells that if we dont like him, we should prize him trying to make some other team bite the lure and give us good value to trade up, right?


If you wanted to trade down, the last thing you'd do is devalue the player most likely to go with that 2nd pick.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#975 » by JHFVF07 » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:09 pm

Im talking about trade down and STILL draft Lonzo.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#976 » by Michael Lucky » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:10 pm

madmaxmedia wrote:
JHFVF07 wrote:Is there a possibility Lakers are devaluating Ball, cause the FO is trying to trade down(something like #2+Deng for #5) and hopes no one draft him so we can pick him? cause if we take a look on the news, the team seems to like all top prospects not named Ball. Logic tells that if we dont like him, we should prize him trying to make some other team bite the lure and give us good value to trade up, right?


If you wanted to trade down, the last thing you'd do is devalue the player most likely to go with that 2nd pick.

Technically they are putting forth the idea that they aren't committed to anyone which would lend other teams to believe they could trade for that pick.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#977 » by Kilroy » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:16 pm

You never knew what the previous FO was thinking because they never told anyone... You never know what this FO is thinking because they seem to leak to EVERYONE...
Have no idea who we're going to pick... But I'm certain not drafting either Fultz or Ball with the second pick would be a huge mistake.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#978 » by madmaxmedia » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:20 pm

JHFVF07 wrote:Im talking about trade down and STILL draft Lonzo.


Oh gotcha. Sorry I should have obviously gotten that from your message, I misread it.

I think that would be a dangerous game to play, IF they were targeting Lonzo. But if there are 2-3 guys that they are equally high on, I agree trading down a couple of spots might be a good move.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#979 » by Michael Lucky » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:23 pm

Kilroy wrote:You never knew what the previous FO was thinking because they never told anyone... You never know what this FO is thinking because they seem to leak to EVERYONE...
Have no idea who we're going to pick... But I'm certain not drafting either Fultz or Ball with the second pick would be a huge mistake.

Kind of shows. This FO seems obsessed with controlling the narrative while the previous one simply didn't care about that aspect.
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