Draft Discussion Part 3

[DirtyDez]

I really dont understand if the lakers take Jackson. He is a small forward and maybe shooting guard a position in which the lakers already have Ingram who they have said is untradable and they want to bring in Paul George next year who is also a small forward.

I really think that Gambo is blowing smoke on this.

I think Gambo is speculating that if Jackson doesn't accept a workout for the Suns it means he has a promise from teams 1-3. Even if that's the case it's probably not a smart move by his agent to only have him workout for those teams. Verbal agreements are dicey.

[JMac1]

I'm perfectly happy with Isaac. I imagine that means we keep Bledsoe and we don't need to adjust rotation much for now since Isaac is raw. It would give us so much frontcourt versatility between him, Bender and Chriss. Then you have a more traditional 3 in Warren and a traditional 5. That's 5 guys that could avg 32 minutes...but probably the C averages less and one or some of the others avg more...plus there will always be injuries and such.

Then we would probably need a backup 2 really good shooter.

That's what I am hoping. A few people here believe we could have a front court of Issac, Chriss, and Bender. If we draft Issac at the 4, then that would mean Mc'D agrees.... If he does, who am I to disagree. I 'd would be curious to see

Bledsoe
Booker
Issac
Chris
Bender

all on the court at one time.

[Waylay13]

I really dont understand if the lakers take Jackson. He is a small forward and maybe shooting guard a position in which the lakers already have Ingram who they have said is untradable and they want to bring in Paul George next year who is also a small forward.

I really think that Gambo is blowing smoke on this.

If the Suns wanted Jackson, wouldn't the smoke be that Jackson has red flags, that the Lakers and Sixers are terrified of his FT% and jumpshot?

I agree though, I don't get the fit on the Lakers at all. Randle can't shoot, so you'd have only two guys with range. Even in that scenario I'm assuming Ingram improves from 29% from 3. The spacing would be awful. Even worse if Ingram doesn't get better.

I think that Gambo is blowing someone else smoke to draw the Suns into giving more for Jackson. I really dont think Jackson even fits with the 76ers with Colangelo drafting since they really need spread the floor and guard play plus he is a big character guy due to the drug issues in the past of the Suns.

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Hmmmm dinner with personnel. I seem to remember 2 prospects last year dining with McD.

Chriss and Bender?

Yea

[JoRain]

If Suns pick Isaac, I'll be disappointed, I think he's the worst option at 4. I'm really scared of this guy (asthma, bad handles - especially for someone who's been a guard, soft/weak - afraid of any kind of contact even when 'boxing' out, head problems - panics whenever defender is on him) and I'm not optimistic that he'll be able play wing and guard multiple positions in the NBA. I really hope i'm wrong if Suns pick him, but atm I think some prospects discussed here as options for our 32nd pick are likely to have better careers than Isaac.

[bwgood77]

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Hmmmm dinner with personnel. I seem to remember 2 prospects last year dining with McD.

Yeah, that puts him as our first choice IMO.

Last week a contingent of Sarver, two scouts, McD and Watson were in Las Vegas on a private workout and today this workout in Phoenix.

Obviously we are REALLY interested and we have not seen any "official" info about it.

And I don't recall them saying anything in public like "Bender/Chriss were really impressive in gym...one of the most impressive we've ever seen."

It was all info we saw through leaked tweets and dinner photos and stuff....I mean this is the player's snap chat and stuff.

[Leor_77]

I really dont understand if the lakers take Jackson. He is a small forward and maybe shooting guard a position in which the lakers already have Ingram who they have said is untradable and they want to bring in Paul George next year who is also a small forward.

I really think that Gambo is blowing smoke on this.

When you're as bad as them, you have to take BPA. Also, you can "somewhat" switch those guys around a little bit at 2-4.

[bwgood77]

I really dont understand if the lakers take Jackson. He is a small forward and maybe shooting guard a position in which the lakers already have Ingram who they have said is untradable and they want to bring in Paul George next year who is also a small forward.

I really think that Gambo is blowing smoke on this.

I read something that said Walton doesn't want to take players based on who they have or what they drafted last year because like with the Warriors, he wants to go to more of a position-less roster make up where players can play multiple positions. They still already have Russell and Clarkson as well.

I still kind of think they will take Ball, but who knows?

[Waylay13]

I really dont understand if the lakers take Jackson. He is a small forward and maybe shooting guard a position in which the lakers already have Ingram who they have said is untradable and they want to bring in Paul George next year who is also a small forward.

I really think that Gambo is blowing smoke on this.

I read something that said Walton doesn't want to take players based on who they have or what they drafted last year because like with the Warriors, he wants to go to more of a position-less roster make up where players can play multiple positions. They still already have Russell and Clarkson as well.

I still kind of think they will take Ball, but who knows?

You can play positionless but you have to have the skills to do that. i.e. if your point guard isnt a great creator you need someone else who will pass the ball or better yet have a whole team that will pass the ball well. you need rebounding and defense and the ability to force the other team to try to match up with you.

[Kerrsed]

Russell/Ingrim/Jackson/PG13/Mozgof
6'5/6'9/6'9/6'9/7'

Positionless basketball.

[Kerrsed]

And if (IF) Lakers pass on Ball for Jackson, what does the Sixers do?

I mean drafting Ball takes away from what makes Simmons the player he is (Ball handling and distribution). Do they draft someone else @ #3, or do they trade the Ball pick to a team like Sacramento, who i think would be ecstatic to land Ball.

[bwgood77]

I really dont understand if the lakers take Jackson. He is a small forward and maybe shooting guard a position in which the lakers already have Ingram who they have said is untradable and they want to bring in Paul George next year who is also a small forward.

I really think that Gambo is blowing smoke on this.

I read something that said Walton doesn't want to take players based on who they have or what they drafted last year because like with the Warriors, he wants to go to more of a position-less roster make up where players can play multiple positions. They still already have Russell and Clarkson as well.

I still kind of think they will take Ball, but who knows?

You can play positionless but you have to have the skills to do that. i.e. if your point guard isnt a great creator you need someone else who will pass the ball or better yet have a whole team that will pass the ball well. you need rebounding and defense and the ability to force the other team to try to match up with you.

Well, JJ passes the ball. Randle passes the ball. I don't know. That's just what I read.

[carey]

Russell/Ingrim/Jackson/PG13/Mozgof
6'5/6'9/6'9/6'9/7'

Positionless basketball.

Could be good enough for the 6th or 7th seed out West. Big lack of outside shooting as has been mentioned. Could be good defensively.

[ATTL]

Gambo saying Fox will not work out for Phoenix either.
No JJ
No fox

Only options are Isaac and Tatum?

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

And if (IF) Lakers pass on Ball for Jackson, what does the Sixers do?

I mean drafting Ball takes away from what makes Simmons the player he is (Ball handling and distribution). Do they draft someone else @ #3, or do they trade the Ball pick to a team like Sacramento, who i think would be ecstatic to land Ball.

I've thought that Ball would work really well with the Sixers. But perhaps his "alpha" persona would be an unwelcome addition with Simmons and Embiid around. If the Sixers wouldn't want Ball, who would they prefer instead? And would we be in a position to make the best offer? Seeing as how they already have a boatload of picks, what would they want from us? Isn't the only answer to that question Eric Bledsoe? If we're going to make a more reasonable deal, we'll need a third team.

If the Lakers pass on Ball, I imagine his pops would have an enormous well of animus for the Lakers. That's a match for the Suns if ever I've heard one.

[DirtyDez]

Gambo saying Fox will not work out for Phoenix either.
No JJ
No fox

Only options are Isaac and Tatum?

Trade back.

[LukasBMW]

Gambo saying Fox will not work out for Phoenix either.
No JJ
No fox

Only options are Isaac and Tatum?

1. Fultz
2. Jackson
3. Fox
4. Issac??

Does Ball really fall to Sacramento?

Tatum could be a steal if he drops.

[Damkac]

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If Philly takes JJ and can trade future assets to find a way to land Monk...

Starters:
Monk - shooter
JJ - athlete/lockdown defender
Simmons - distributor
Covington - 3 & D
Embiid - everything

Reserves:
McConnell
Luwawu
Saric
Holmes/Okafor

YEs, that could be scary. They would NEED a guy like Monk because at 2/3 their shooting wouldn't be bad. The good thing though, is that Embiid can spread the floor and hit the 3 on offense....so they would have 1, 4 and 5 who stretched the floor and 2/3 who may not be able too...since JJ is a question mark.

Philly's future looks bright.... IF Embiid will be healthy. Which sadly seems unlikely for me.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Gambo saying Fox will not work out for Phoenix either.
No JJ
No fox

Only options are Isaac and Tatum?

One of Ball, Jackson, or Fox will be there at 4 (assuming Fultz doesn't rob a bank in the next two weeks). There's no rule saying you can't draft a guy who doesn't work out for you. I find Fox not coming in interesting. You would think that might mean he's confident he'll be gone by 4 or I guess he could want to play in Sacramento so bad he's trying to force his way there... seems far fetched.

[carey]

Fox not working out for us is shocking given our history with Callipari & UK players.