NBA 2017 Draft thread. 5th pick and 10th pick.

[SacKingZZZ]

Frank Mason is coming in for a 2nd time. If the Kings don't land a PG at 5 or 10 I think Mason would be a steal if he's at 34 and would be a great fall back talent wise at PG.

http://www.nba.com/kings/blog/prospects-announced-ninth-pre-draft-workout

[benchmobbin02]

Frank Mason is coming in for a 2nd time. If the Kings don't land a PG at 5 or 10 I think Mason would be a steal if he's at 34 and would be a great fall back talent wise at PG.

http://www.nba.com/kings/blog/prospects-announced-ninth-pre-draft-workout

There will be way better prospects available at 34 then Mason. That's a No.

[benchmobbin02]

Apparently Josh Jackson received a promise. Could be Philly but likely Lakers as that's the only team he's worked out for so far. Could Lonzo fall to 5?

I don't believe it. It was reported by a Phoenix sports guy. I smell smoke...

[City of Trees]

Fox is declining to work out for Phoenix. I know this won't impact outcomes but I find it interesting/funny.

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[OGSactownballer]

Frank Mason is coming in for a 2nd time. If the Kings don't land a PG at 5 or 10 I think Mason would be a steal if he's at 34 and would be a great fall back talent wise at PG.

http://www.nba.com/kings/blog/prospects-announced-ninth-pre-draft-workout

There will be way better prospects available at 34 then Mason. That's a No.

I disagree.

I know people are down on Mason because he's a four year player.

So was Isiah.

He's the player of the year and a basically ready to go guy. I think that at 34 and nobody on the roster I'd take him before any of the "potential" guys.

[SacKingZZZ]

I agree, and I think his experience is a positive for him. I think Mason has the chance to be a really good NBA player if he finds the right situation.

[SacKingZZZ]

Fox is declining to work out for Phoenix. I know this won't impact outcomes but I find it interesting/funny.

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Makes sense. They've buried their fair share of them the last few years and have too many options as is. They have always seemed unwilling to move Bledsoe, they can't seem to move Knight, and Ulis looks like a draft steal who might get a chance to be a primary backup or the guy if they decide to start over there.

[VeganKingsFan]

Fox is declining to work out for Phoenix. I know this won't impact outcomes but I find it interesting/funny.

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I had a feeling he wouldn't want to step on the toes of fellow Kentucky alums Tyler Ulis, Brandon Knight, and Eric Bledsoe. He would feel like he's coming in to take their jobs.

[benchmobbin02]

Frank Mason is coming in for a 2nd time. If the Kings don't land a PG at 5 or 10 I think Mason would be a steal if he's at 34 and would be a great fall back talent wise at PG.

http://www.nba.com/kings/blog/prospects-announced-ninth-pre-draft-workout

There will be way better prospects available at 34 then Mason. That's a No.

I disagree.

I know people are down on Mason because he's a four year player.

So was Isiah.

He's the player of the year and a basically ready to go guy. I think that at 34 and nobody on the roster I'd take him before any of the "potential" guys.

Valiant effort but Mason is widely considered in the 45-50 range as a prospect. I'd take him later but too many guys with far higher ceiling than him will be available.

Yes. Isiah was a great pickup at 60 but there were several reason he was taken there, not just his age. That he has overcome those disadvantages to become a productive player is a testament to him, not a model to follow. There are countless PGs taken late that are 3-4 yr guys with no size that bust in the league, far more than make it.

[sacking123]

From the small amount I've watched of Mason I think he would be a fine pick at 34. Really even if we nab a PG at 5 I'm ok with taking another at 34 anyway.


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[benchmobbin02]

I agree, and I think his experience is a positive for him. I think Mason has the chance to be a really good NBA player if he finds the right situation.

Yup, he'll be taken later most likely and have to be on a team with the right kind of roster to stick. Way too early at 34.

[PetrieUnderstudy]

I'm sure the Kings have serious interest in Mason with him coming in for a 2nd workout but I don't think it necessarily has to be at 34. He's projected late 2nd in most mocks. It would be fairly easy to obtain a pick in the 45 to 50 range.

If Fox goes before 5 then I can see Tatum at 5 and hope Smith drops to 10 (unlikely). If Smith doesn't drop then draft Mitchell at 10 which would make a lot of sense drafting Mason in 2nd round. I'm guessing they like him better than Evans, Morris and Williams-Goss. I like that Mason is tough, more explosive, and shot 47% from 3.

I'd still like to someway get Jordan Bell.

Fox/Mitchell/Bell/Swanigan
or
Tatum/Mitchell/Bell/Mason

[benchmobbin02]

From the small amount I've watched of Mason I think he would be a fine pick at 34. Really even if we nab a PG at 5 I'm ok with taking another at 34 anyway.


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Being under 6'0 is a huge detriment now days with teams getting longer and longer. That we'll have to hid him on defense is my main knock on him. I like his game as a whole tho. I just see alot of value at forward in that range that we shouldn't pass on.

[sacking123]

From the small amount I've watched of Mason I think he would be a fine pick at 34. Really even if we nab a PG at 5 I'm ok with taking another at 34 anyway.


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Being under 6'0 is a huge detriment now days with teams getting longer and longer. That we'll have to hid him on defense is my main knock on him. I like his game as a whole tho. I just see alot of value at forward in that range that we shouldn't pass on.

I certainly agree with his height not being ideal that's for sure and yes there are some decent forwards in that range so I can completely understand why someone wouldn't draft him at 34.


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[City of Trees]

I'm sure the Kings have serious interest in Mason with him coming in for a 2nd workout but I don't think it necessarily has to be at 34. He's projected late 2nd in most mocks. It would be fairly easy to obtain a pick in the 45 to 50 range.

If Fox goes before 5 then I can see Tatum at 5 and hope Smith drops to 10 (unlikely). If Smith doesn't drop then draft Mitchell at 10 which would make a lot of sense drafting Mason in 2nd round. I'm guessing they like him better than Evans, Morris and Williams-Goss. I like that Mason is tough, more explosive, and shot 47% from 3.

I'd still like to someway get Jordan Bell.

Fox/Mitchell/Bell/Swanigan
or
Tatum/Mitchell/Bell/Mason

I'm starting to lean DSJ over Tatum at 5 if Fox goes early. Draft OG at 10 to be your 3 and D. If Isaac falls even better! Then take whoever you want at 34.

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[SacKingZZZ]

I agree, and I think his experience is a positive for him. I think Mason has the chance to be a really good NBA player if he finds the right situation.

Yup, he'll be taken later most likely and have to be on a team with the right kind of roster to stick. Way too early at 34.

In a perfect world for the Kings he slides right out of the draft, but I can see many reasons why a team would take him as high as the 1st round. Now here's crossing fingers that they don't.

[SacKingZZZ]

I'm sure the Kings have serious interest in Mason with him coming in for a 2nd workout but I don't think it necessarily has to be at 34. He's projected late 2nd in most mocks. It would be fairly easy to obtain a pick in the 45 to 50 range.

If Fox goes before 5 then I can see Tatum at 5 and hope Smith drops to 10 (unlikely). If Smith doesn't drop then draft Mitchell at 10 which would make a lot of sense drafting Mason in 2nd round. I'm guessing they like him better than Evans, Morris and Williams-Goss. I like that Mason is tough, more explosive, and shot 47% from 3.

I'd still like to someway get Jordan Bell.

Fox/Mitchell/Bell/Swanigan
or
Tatum/Mitchell/Bell/Mason

I think this draft could be much like the last one, where there just isn't really that much of realistic gap from 20-25 on so players could go first round that were projected to go 2nd and vice versa. Some will rise, some will fall like any draft.

[SacKingZZZ]

I'm sure the Kings have serious interest in Mason with him coming in for a 2nd workout but I don't think it necessarily has to be at 34. He's projected late 2nd in most mocks. It would be fairly easy to obtain a pick in the 45 to 50 range.

If Fox goes before 5 then I can see Tatum at 5 and hope Smith drops to 10 (unlikely). If Smith doesn't drop then draft Mitchell at 10 which would make a lot of sense drafting Mason in 2nd round. I'm guessing they like him better than Evans, Morris and Williams-Goss. I like that Mason is tough, more explosive, and shot 47% from 3.

I'd still like to someway get Jordan Bell.

Fox/Mitchell/Bell/Swanigan
or
Tatum/Mitchell/Bell/Mason

I'm starting to lean DSJ over Tatum at 5 if Fox goes early. Draft OG at 10 to be your 3 and D. If Isaac falls even better! Then take whoever you want at 34.

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If the Kings want DSJ then I think they should just see if he falls to 10. I've been watching more and more game footage of him and I have serious concerns about his ability in pick and roll. Too many teams just step out on him and stop him dead in his tracks. I still think he projects as more of a volume guy who requires a lot of space to work. It's going to be a big like Isaiah with him, he needs to find the right team.

[benchmobbin02]

I agree, and I think his experience is a positive for him. I think Mason has the chance to be a really good NBA player if he finds the right situation.

Yup, he'll be taken later most likely and have to be on a team with the right kind of roster to stick. Way too early at 34.

In a perfect world for the Kings he slides right out of the draft, but I can see many reasons why a team would take him as high as the 1st round. Now here's crossing fingers that they don't.

Do you think anyone will? Or do you think all the things that have him rated around 48th amongst prospects (size, age, ceiling, defensive inscints) will prevent that?

[SacKingZZZ]

Yup, he'll be taken later most likely and have to be on a team with the right kind of roster to stick. Way too early at 34.

In a perfect world for the Kings he slides right out of the draft, but I can see many reasons why a team would take him as high as the 1st round. Now here's crossing fingers that they don't.

Do you think anyone will? Or do you think all the things that have him rated around 48th amongst prospects (size, age, ceiling, defensive inscints) will prevent that?

I don't think so but as they say, all it takes is one team. Like I said I think this draft is going to be hard to predict at the back end because it kind of gunks up position wise. Right now a lot of mocks I've seen have almost no PG's going anywhere from the mid 1st on, until deeper into the 2nd round. If Mason were to get drafted in the 1st I'd look towards a team that has more than one pick. I know he worked out for the Jazz and they might have a big hole to fill at PG if Hill leaves so they could be a danger for the Kings if they really want to draft Mason. I personally don't feel he's a stretch at 34 depending on who is there. I've seen Frank Jackson rated lower than the Kings pick and if he were there I'd rather see the Kings draft him because of his upside physically.