2017 NBA DRAFT Part 3

[Xanadu]

Bell seems like a low ceiling high floor guy to me. Not a sexy pick but a solid pick and someone that'll contribute in 1 form or another pretty consistently. Im perfectly comfortable saying I'd have zero problem taking him at 17.

Idk about that. He has the potential of being DPOY, that is a pretty solid ceiling.

Wow, what a bold statement. I don't really see that at all but I guess you could be right as well. I see a mixture of Kenneth Faried and Dejuan Blair in Jordan Bell. Not that that's even a bad thing but that's a pretty low ceiling imo.

Neither of those guys have close to Bells shot blocking instincts nor his quickness. His recovery after his first leap really stands out to me and is a underrated skill for a shot blocker. My main worry with Bell is if he can add enough lower body strength to be a plus rebounder. If Bell can become stronger and a more disciplined when boxing out I see a lot of Ben Wallace in him. His natural defensive IQ is off the charts.

[skones]

I don't get the Bucks drafting Hartenstein. He's a project, and his game's similar to Thon. We've also got 4 other bigs under contract at the 4 and 5 that he would have to overcome for minutes.

If you think he's going to be an all-star, then you throw all of the above out the window, but I think that's a looooong shot.

I don't think it's similar to Thon at all. His overall skillset and feel for the game is much more advanced and he doesnt have the issues with his frame, already standing at 7'1 250lbs at an unquestioned 19 years old. Better passer, more creative off the bounce, large advantage on the glass. The dude is going to be a physical monster once he fills out. If he keeps his fluidity, he's trouble. His size alone differentiates him from Thon quite a bit. He's got the motor to boot

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[PANDEMONEUM]

the only center i like at #17 is Hartenstein.
everyone else seems like low ceiling, or 1 trick pony.

the next big i like is Bradley from NC, but 17 is probably too early for him.

then Thomas Bryant from Indi

still like Bacon SG for #48
then Kuzma PF

[Chuck Diesel]

If we were to draft a five and Monroe stays, our rookie would be exposed to completely separate ends of the center spectrum every day in practice trying to figure out how to guard Thon and Moose. Very interesting to think about how a guy like Anigbogu might benefit from that for a year.

[NMB2420]

I really really like the middle-first round of this draft class
Can't wait to see who we pick

I'm even hopeful we might get a rotation piece out of our 2nd round pick.

I think we have a pretty awesome developmental environment. We theoretically have a starting 5 and sixth man. If we select the right players, they could be eased in to 7-9 roles and be positive contributors by the end of the season.

I think this is spot on. With potentially so many solid players available in the second round (dorsey, Hart, williams-goss, thornwell, Bolden, etc.) I really like our chances of finding a contributing role player.

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[LuessiT]

Bell seems like a low ceiling high floor guy to me. Not a sexy pick but a solid pick and someone that'll contribute in 1 form or another pretty consistently. Im perfectly comfortable saying I'd have zero problem taking him at 17.

Idk about that. He has the potential of being DPOY, that is a pretty solid ceiling.

Wow, what a bold statement. I don't really see that at all but I guess you could be right as well. I see a mixture of Kenneth Faried and Dejuan Blair in Jordan Bell. Not that that's even a bad thing but that's a pretty low ceiling imo.

It's not such a bold statement. Bell is an elite athlete with elite shotblocking instincts and a tremendous defensive IQ. He doesn't have the Rudy Gobert measureables, but apart from that he's everything you want from a defensive big prospect (apart from maybe rebounding as he doesn't box out and solely relies on his athleticism/reach which might not cut it at the next level). He can switch onto PGs and contain them at a level you'd most likely only see from Draymond Green. Saying that he has the potential to some day be DPOY is no hyperbole. Will he get anywhere close to it? Who knows, but it's definately possible.

I also think his offensive game is underrated. He has a very good knack for steals and by that gets a lot of points in transition. He's a very good lob target and runs the floor well. While he's no Draymond Green, he's pretty solid at making quick decisions, passing out of double team or finding the open shooter. He is best utilized as a roll man in the PnR, but his jump shot is further developed than he let it look at Oregon. He's going to be able to pop sometimes and he's probably going to hit the league average from 3 (~35%) with some time. His back to the basket game is also underrated. He's got good mechanics on his hookshot and with his athleticism if he gets played for his hookshot he might be able to add some spin post moves. That all will probably never be enough to be an impact player on the offensive end but he's also not going to be a liability.

[Fotis St]

Regarding Hartenstein, if all the draft players near our draft position hit, his game would be most beneficial to this team IMO. Another big that can hit a 3 but can rebound, pass, put the ball on the floor, and protect the rim. You could put him at center, Thon at PF, and Giannis at SF. Everyone would be a 3 point threat (except perhaps Giannis). Rebounding problems solved. Strength under the rim solved.

Part of me says go for it. He was mocked a mid first round pick not that long ago and probably didn't deserve his slide in the mock drafts.

You just saw through my eyes ... thank you for this post.

[Baddy Chuck]

He can switch onto PGs and contain them at a level you'd most likely only see from Draymond Green.

Personally I think this is seriously overblown. He certainly has skills to switch off on a pick and roll and disrupt it or something but then again guys like Tristian Thompson or Taj Gibson do as well. Draymond is a legitimate terror of a perimeter defender. A guy like Bell is just simply good for a big. I don't see how anything he showed at Oregon could compare him to Draymond honestly. He's probably closer to Dewayne Dedmon than Green.

[Badgerlander]

He can switch onto PGs and contain them at a level you'd most likely only see from Draymond Green.

Personally I think this is seriously overblown. He certainly has skills to switch off on a pick and roll and disrupt it or something but then again guys like Tristian Thompson or Taj Gibson do as well. Draymond is a legitimate terror of a perimeter defender. A guy like Bell is just simply good for a big. I don't see how anything he showed at Oregon could compare him to Draymond honestly. He's probably closer to Dewayne Dedmon than Green.

Agreed, I love Bell but he is a better team defender than one on one, it's his shot blocking that forces guards into pull up jumpers. To me though it gives him the potential to be a little more dynamic

[drone3]

He can switch onto PGs and contain them at a level you'd most likely only see from Draymond Green.

Personally I think this is seriously overblown. He certainly has skills to switch off on a pick and roll and disrupt it or something but then again guys like Tristian Thompson or Taj Gibson do as well. Draymond is a legitimate terror of a perimeter defender. A guy like Bell is just simply good for a big. I don't see how anything he showed at Oregon could compare him to Draymond honestly. He's probably closer to Dewayne Dedmon than Green.

Agreed, I love Bell but he is a better team defender than one on one, it's his shot blocking that forces guards into pull up jumpers. To me though it gives him the potential to be a little more dynamic

Draymond? Dedmon? don't know, i see an extroverted version of Jerami Grant

[Baddy Chuck]

Draymond? Dedmon? don't know, i see an extroverted version of Jerami Grant

I still think that's leaning way more towards the perimeter than his game suggests.

[skones]

Jordan Bell's scouting report reads like Tyrus Thomas's without the absurd length. As I said earlier, if Draymond Green didn't exist, Bell would be perceived a lot differently.

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[SirChurros]

Allen is a very intriguing prospect to me. Very unpolished, but has the potential to develop a face-up game and is already super good with his back to the basket. Wouldn't mind him.

[SirChurros]

I'll add that Allen also has excellent defensive instincts.

[Licensed to Il]

Jordan Bell's scouting report reads like Tyrus Thomas's without the absurd length. As I said earlier, if Draymond Green didn't exist, Bell would be perceived a lot differently.

Oh man, Tyrus Thomas. I totally forgot that guy existed. Can you imagine if the Bulls would have taken Aldridge instead? If those Thibs' teams had an inside guy that could get easy buckets, they would have been murderous.

If you used the technology from the tv show "Cops" to blur the faces and jersey logo of Stromile Swift and Tyrus Thomas, no one would be able to tell the difference. Two six foot nine guys that could run like deer, out jump anyone, not dribble, and never run a play correctly.

[emunney]

I feel like there is no upside in taking Allen over Bradley.

[SupremeHustle]

My youtube highlight video analysis of Jarrett Allen: A more under control JaVale McGee. Ceiling = Playoff Henson.

[machu46]

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But we don't have a GM!

[skones]

My youtube highlight video analysis of Jarrett Allen: A more under control JaVale McGee. Ceiling = Playoff Henson.

I just think he IS John Henson.

If you could get a motor into Henson, how effective would he be? That's the biggest question with Allen. Is he just shy and quiet because he's young, or is he apathetic?