Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8

[newyorker4ever]

remember the name... JONAH BOLDEN

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We were talking about him on here yesterday. Kid looks legit.

[F N 11]

Who are the recent kentucky guys and how have they looked? Booker so much better than we thought. Besides Booker, Wall, cousins, and Bledsoe. Who else came from Kentucky?

[shtolky]

did you not see my last post?
im not even overratting monk. im actually not even his biggest fan. i was bashing him hard in the tournament. you're the one overatting frank like hes the next BIG thing. you compared him to klay thompson for crying out loud. you tried to say that since klay can drop 6 points in a finals game we could say he sucks just like how frank averages like 5 points. that's the worst comparison anyone can make for frank. especially when klay is one of the leagues TOP shooters, 3 time all star, 2 time all nba team. wtf has frank done to earn that comparison? a rising star award? LOL

i like monk and smith more than frank. deal with it. and don't say that BS im " too sure about their futures". you clearly didn't read my last post

Euh no, the next big thing is your words, not mine. I never say that I just say he's has more potential than just to be a 3 and D, that's your conviction not mine and sure I saw more frank's game like yours.

And once again I just compare klay's role in NBA finals than frank's role in french PO ( defend against the best opponent) to say numbers are not important when you have a role in a team. Never say frank is a future klay. It's totally two differents players You need to understand the difference or not interpret...

You like monk smith or other I have no problem with that but stop to troll about frank, just a 3 and D... If scouts and insiders think the same, he could be never top 10 in majorities of mockdrafts but top20-25. So maybe you know nothing about him, maybe you afraid because he's european, his numbers ( because it's important here for some people, more than impact on the floor) or what you want, but clearly he have more potential to be better than a 3 and D. So please not interpret this sentence like "the next big thing" .

Sigh
I never said he doesn't have the potential to be more than a 3 and D guard. Read my previous posts. I clearly said he could be the Kawhi/Giannis of point guards. Will I bet on him reaching that potential? Nah.

He's a 3 and D guard RIGHT NOW.

And frank wouldn't be able to produce numbers even if he was asked to. His raw offense is blatant

And that's the real trick to the draft. It's easy to pick the number one picks, the sure-fire talents. What makes the draft such an inexact science a bit of a crapshoot is trying to project how a player will grow and translate into the NBA. It's why every year, year after year, guys get picked too high and too low. I am glad we have someone on our side who seems to know what he is doing draft wise. Gotta trust in that, not much else we can do.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Who are the recent kentucky guys and how have they looked? Booker so much better than we thought. Besides Booker, Wall, cousins, and Bledsoe. Who else came from Kentucky?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=coach+calipari%27s+nba+players+list (Assuming you're talking about who Cal coached and not who played solely for Kentucky.)

[shtolky]

Who are the recent kentucky guys and how have they looked? Booker so much better than we thought. Besides Booker, Wall, cousins, and Bledsoe. Who else came from Kentucky?

Davis, Murray, Randle, MKG, Noel, Rondo, just to name a few.

[3toheadmelo]

Euh no, the next big thing is your words, not mine. I never say that I just say he's has more potential than just to be a 3 and D, that's your conviction not mine and sure I saw more frank's game like yours.

And once again I just compare klay's role in NBA finals than frank's role in french PO ( defend against the best opponent) to say numbers are not important when you have a role in a team. Never say frank is a future klay. It's totally two differents players You need to understand the difference or not interpret...

You like monk smith or other I have no problem with that but stop to troll about frank, just a 3 and D... If scouts and insiders think the same, he could be never top 10 in majorities of mockdrafts but top20-25. So maybe you know nothing about him, maybe you afraid because he's european, his numbers ( because it's important here for some people, more than impact on the floor) or what you want, but clearly he have more potential to be better than a 3 and D. So please not interpret this sentence like "the next big thing" .

Sigh
I never said he doesn't have the potential to be more than a 3 and D guard. Read my previous posts. I clearly said he could be the Kawhi/Giannis of point guards. Will I bet on him reaching that potential? Nah.

He's a 3 and D guard RIGHT NOW.

And frank wouldn't be able to produce numbers even if he was asked to. His raw offense is blatant

And that's the real trick to the draft. It's easy to pick the number one picks, the sure-fire talents. What makes the draft such an inexact science a bit of a crapshoot is trying to project how a player will grow and translate into the NBA. It's why every year, year after year, guys get picked too high and too low. I am glad we have someone on our side who seems to know what he is doing draft wise. Gotta trust in that, not much else we can do.

Exactly. I've said that if Gaines picks him over smith and monk I'll have to trust and believe in him.

[IllmaticHandler]

So Cal says the Knicks would love him, then stops his range right before our pick. You gotta love it. lol

[3toheadmelo]

remember the name... JONAH BOLDEN

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We were talking about him on here yesterday. Kid looks legit.

Yeah I've been trying to hype him up since February. He's been my #1 target for the second round for quite a while

[newyorker4ever]

I am assuming most of us trust that Gaines knows what he is doing (obviously he isn't perfect but has a very good track record). If we trust he evaluates talent properly, wouldn't we be happy with whoever we pick? I can't fathom why a KP booing situation would happen again if he's ultimately the guy Phil listens to. It's not as if he will pick Frank over a guy like DSJ or Monk just for the hell of it. If he recommends Frank or Monk or DSJ, it's probably based on a hell of a lot more info and knowledge than we have. I'm just glad we are in the mix for any of these guys.

Yea at this point the debate is tiring. We're going to overrate and support whoever the Knicks choose, so being totally against any player is pointless.

No matter who we pick there's gonna be haters and supporters but the NBA is a whole different animal then college or euro ball so nobody will know what whoever we draft will be until we actually see it. We should just be hoping for luck to be on our side finally. We lost the coin flip and dropped a spot in the draft but hopefully both of those cleaned up the Karma that we built up over last season and we can start moving forward in a better way.

[Capn'O]

FrankfROOTER

I go back and forth on the nick. At the end of the day, the versatility of the diss is decent but you have to think about it too much and by that point it's hard to get worked up about. Three out of five stars

[eagle54]

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I never said he doesn't have the potential to be more than a 3 and D guard. Read my previous posts. I clearly said he could be the Kawhi/Giannis of point guards. Will I bet on him reaching that potential? Nah.

He's a 3 and D guard RIGHT NOW.

And frank wouldn't be able to produce numbers even if he was asked to. His raw offense is blatant

You never say that but you troll about him every time So if we are agree right now about his role, maybe you understand that I say when I compare the role of Klay in this finales like him with SIG, not compare the player but the role.

Just for precision he's use like a 3 and D guard but this year Collet give him a more offensive role in SR in somes games. But clearly in this PO he give offense role to confirm players and want Frank stop the best scorer guard opponent. But he can clearly score more if he give this role.

[Fat]

wasnt booker portrayed as a one trick pony? Was picked 13th.. "what else he gonna do besides score" lacked the extraordianry length and athleticism and can't create.

Reality showed he should of gone higher and he"s the face of the suns now and only getting better.

What you see in college isn't what your guaranteed to see in the NBA especially not with Kentucky players where cal doesn't shy away from tapping into other parts of your game. He never makes his players do something their not capable of doing but he definitely taps into it and builds his players to a degree where they wont shy away from so and so situation at the next level.

[newyorker4ever]

remember the name... JONAH BOLDEN

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We were talking about him on here yesterday. Kid looks legit.

Yeah I've been trying to hype him up since February. He's been my #1 target for the second round for quite a while

I think Phil is making it pretty obvious with the players he's bringing in for workouts that he wants a PF in this draft. N.Hayes, C.Swanigan, T.Bradley, J.Jeane, T.Bryant are all close to being the same type of player that plays good defense and a few of them can hit the 3 ball so i could definitely see this kid being on Phil's board.

[3toheadmelo]

Sigh
I never said he doesn't have the potential to be more than a 3 and D guard. Read my previous posts. I clearly said he could be the Kawhi/Giannis of point guards. Will I bet on him reaching that potential? Nah.

He's a 3 and D guard RIGHT NOW.

And frank wouldn't be able to produce numbers even if he was asked to. His raw offense is blatant

You never say that but you troll about him every time So if we are agree right now about his role, maybe you understand that I say when I compare the role of Klay in this finales like him with SIG, not compare the player but the role.

Just for precision he's use like a 3 and D guard but this year Collet give him a more offensive role in SR in somes games. But clearly in this PO he give offense role to confirm players and want Frank stop the best scorer guard opponent. But he can clearly score more if he give this role.

I take shots at frank cause it's all jokes
Like I said I have my preferences, but if we pick him im rooting for him.

Klays role is to score and play D. You're telling me franks role is to play D but without scoring. Ok.

Klays role has been the same all season long. And he even had a career high in his scoring average. If klay can do it then frank can right?

[DrCoach]

After watching the game tonight I'm starting to agree with Phil. U need lock down perimeter def. u need a hand in a guy like curry's face at all times. U give a guy like that a second he hits the 3. I'm on team Frank officially


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Thats backwards thinking

The team that shot the 3's, won.

You are making a case for Monk

[Deeeez Knicks]

wasnt booker portrayed as a one trick pony? Was picked 13th.. "what else he gonna do besides score" lacked the extraordianry length and athleticism and can't create.

Reality showed he should of gone higher and he"s the face of the suns now and only getting better.

What you see in college isn't what your guaranteed to see in the NBA especially not with Kentucky players where cal doesn't shy away from tapping into other parts of your game. He never makes his players do something their not capable of doing but he definitely taps into it and builds his players to a degree where they wont shy away from so and so situation at the next level.

Yea, I would not close the book on Monk. He is only a few months older then Frank. There is room for him to get better and utilized in different ways....there's def some potential

[waya]

Is there a list of everyone we've worked out so far?

[GONYK]

wasnt booker portrayed as a one trick pony? Was picked 13th.. "what else he gonna do besides score" lacked the extraordianry length and athleticism and can't create.

Reality showed he should of gone higher and he"s the face of the suns now and only getting better.

What you see in college isn't what your guaranteed to see in the NBA especially not with Kentucky players where cal doesn't shy away from tapping into other parts of your game. He never makes his players do something their not capable of doing but he definitely taps into it and builds his players to a degree where they wont shy away from so and so situation at the next level.

Booker doesn't do anything but score though

He just does it really well

[Meat]

wasnt booker portrayed as a one trick pony? Was picked 13th.. "what else he gonna do besides score" lacked the extraordianry length and athleticism and can't create.

Reality showed he should of gone higher and he"s the face of the suns now and only getting better.

What you see in college isn't what your guaranteed to see in the NBA especially not with Kentucky players where cal doesn't shy away from tapping into other parts of your game. He never makes his players do something their not capable of doing but he definitely taps into it and builds his players to a degree where they wont shy away from so and so situation at the next level.

booker is still pretty much a one trick pony. all he does is score

[Knicksfan1992]

wasnt booker portrayed as a one trick pony? Was picked 13th.. "what else he gonna do besides score" lacked the extraordianry length and athleticism and can't create.

Reality showed he should of gone higher and he"s the face of the suns now and only getting better.

What you see in college isn't what your guaranteed to see in the NBA especially not with Kentucky players where cal doesn't shy away from tapping into other parts of your game. He never makes his players do something their not capable of doing but he definitely taps into it and builds his players to a degree where they wont shy away from so and so situation at the next level.

Booker doesn't do anything but score though

3.4 apg isn't too shabby for a 2 guard. He can pass a little and he gets to the line at a decent clip which shows he has variety in his offensive repertoire other than just being a shooter. It's a shame PHX got bumped out at 2. I thought Lonzo was a good fit next to Booker because of his size and decision making. They could have traded Bledsoe for some nice assets and jump started their rebuild.