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Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8

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Who Should We Pick

Best Player Available
17
11%
Mitchell
7
5%
Monk
19
13%
Frank
48
32%
Isaac <---- Screw You
9
6%
Lauri <---- O RLY :o
8
5%
I WANNA VOTE FOR MY BOI DSJ!!!!
30
20%
I Believe In Miracles (somebody else will drop)
4
3%
I Believe In Scrubs (the mocks are garbino - my guy is better)
1
1%
FOH!
7
5%
 
Total votes: 150

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Re: Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8 

Post#481 » by whocares1 » Tue Jun 13, 2017 5:57 pm

spree8 wrote:I have a strange feeling DSJr is going to drop the same way guys like Pierce & Caron Butler did, and Phil won't take him. It sucks, but I just don't see it... I think Frank is our guy, and now that he's not going to have a chance to impress during workouts or meetings with any team above us, I think it's close to a lock. Only other guy I see Phil possibly taking is Monk... I hate when reality starts to set in. :(

I like Frank, but not over DSJr. Hope I'm wrong.


You're not wrong about him not taking Dennis. He's probably not.
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Re: Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8 

Post#482 » by taj2133 » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:00 pm

look like ball is going to fall to philiadelphia i think its going to shock him i think that place will make him grow up fast for his own good i think he needs a tuff environment to grow up in he been babied and pamper to much in LA.
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Re: Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8 

Post#483 » by IllmaticHandler » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:00 pm

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Nyk_Fatboy wrote:My definition of one trick pony is "Steve novak" as in you can't do sh*t else but shoot so that's What you should stick to doing.




There is Levels to this. Some Tricks are better than Others. As of right now excluding potential. He is a one trick Pony. Booker is blowing people away from his UK profile that he has a greater trick than was once thought of...Its Like putting David Blaines best one trick against a Three Card Monty Hustler with Novak.


Lol nothing In my OP stated he wasn't a one trick pony right now. I said that's a fair statement all I said is he was "portrayed" as in drawn out to be a straight scorer and nothing else.

What i was trying to get at is theirs a different tune being whistled now in terms of his potential vs the initial thoughts when he was in college.



So what is the point of saying your definition of one trick pony is Steve Novak, when you Know Booker is way better at his one trick?. I don't know what your OP was really, i did not read thru every detail. All I know is what I quoted you on and responded to. Like I said, the one Trick is greater than the one Trick initially seen of him in UK. Its obvious, cause he is top 5 in that draft from what we know now, but he went 13th.
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Re: Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8 

Post#484 » by Deeeez Knicks » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:01 pm

spree8 wrote:I have a strange feeling DSJr is going to drop the same way guys like Pierce & Caron Butler did, and Phil won't take him. It sucks, but I just don't see it... I think Frank is our guy, and now that he's not going to have a chance to impress during workouts or meetings with any team above us, I think it's close to a lock. Only other guy I see Phil possibly taking is Monk... I hate when reality starts to set in. :(

I like Frank, but not over DSJr. Hope I'm wrong.


I think there's a pretty good chance DSJ will be there for us. The Suns taking Isaac, or Philly trading down for Monk would open things up for DSJ to drop...a few other scenarios where he would be there.

Wouldn't be surprised either way if we take or pass on DSJ
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Re: Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8 

Post#485 » by BeagleBoss » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:02 pm

spree8 wrote:I have a strange feeling DSJr is going to drop the same way guys like Pierce & Caron Butler did, and Phil won't take him. It sucks, but I just don't see it... I think Frank is our guy, and now that he's not going to have a chance to impress during workouts or meetings with any team above us, I think it's close to a lock. Only other guy I see Phil possibly taking is Monk... I hate when reality starts to set in. :(

I like Frank, but not over DSJr. Hope I'm wrong.


Someone drafts every year. I think Monk is this years guy. He can go 3rd or drop to 10th.
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Re: Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8 

Post#486 » by Fat » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:12 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:
Nyk_Fatboy wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:


There is Levels to this. Some Tricks are better than Others. As of right now excluding potential. He is a one trick Pony. Booker is blowing people away from his UK profile that he has a greater trick than was once thought of...Its Like putting David Blaines best one trick against a Three Card Monty Hustler with Novak.


Lol nothing In my OP stated he wasn't a one trick pony right now. I said that's a fair statement all I said is he was "portrayed" as in drawn out to be a straight scorer and nothing else.

What i was trying to get at is theirs a different tune being whistled now in terms of his potential vs the initial thoughts when he was in college.



So what is the point of saying your definition of one trick pony is Steve Novak, when we Know Booker is way better at his one trick?. I don't know what your OP was really, did not read thru every detail. All I know is what I quoted you on and responded to. Like I said, the Trick is greater than the Trick initially seen of him in UK. Its obvious cause he is top 5 in that draft from what we know now, but he went 13th.


My point in that is exactly what I said Novak was always a one trick player. he never showcased anything other than that while booker is a one trick pony but has shown promise in a secondary skill.

You can say he"s a one trick now but he can peak beyond that.
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Re: Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8 

Post#487 » by IllmaticHandler » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:16 pm

Nyk_Fatboy wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:
Nyk_Fatboy wrote:
Lol nothing In my OP stated he wasn't a one trick pony right now. I said that's a fair statement all I said is he was "portrayed" as in drawn out to be a straight scorer and nothing else.

What i was trying to get at is theirs a different tune being whistled now in terms of his potential vs the initial thoughts when he was in college.



So what is the point of saying your definition of one trick pony is Steve Novak, when we Know Booker is way better at his one trick?. I don't know what your OP was really, did not read thru every detail. All I know is what I quoted you on and responded to. Like I said, the Trick is greater than the Trick initially seen of him in UK. Its obvious cause he is top 5 in that draft from what we know now, but he went 13th.


My point in that is exactly what I said Novak was always a one trick player. he never showcased anything other than that while booker is a one trick pony but has shown promise in a secondary skill.

You can say he"s a one trick now but he can peak beyond that.



Thats the obvious part. But I have to agree with other posters he has the ball so much that is why he has those assists. Not sure if he is looking to playmake ...thats a skill. Giving the ball up cause you are swarmed is not a skill.I mean JR Smith has avg 3 assists a game before...
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Re: Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8 

Post#488 » by NYKnicksTAPE » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:17 pm

Monk is a good get at 8 too...could potentially get Bradley Beal in a 6'3 body, and that jumper is beautiful
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Re: Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8 

Post#489 » by Sprewell4Three » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:17 pm

The Lakers already have a SF, why draft another SF?
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Re: Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8 

Post#490 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:18 pm

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IllmaticHandler wrote:Salute to the Lakers for Making Lonzo and Lavar sweat it out...

i hope they don't draft ball, just because i want to see their true colors.

the apple doesn't fall to far from the tree and i bet lonzo is just as big of a pos as his dad.


Even though Lonzo has shown no signs of this...?


free lonzo... or rather, lonzo, free yourself! stay woke!

lonzo has said nothing other than he will play wherever he is drafted. but he has every right to try to hedge things into the laker direction. and the lakers have every right to not love him. very interesting situation.
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Re: RE: Re: Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8 

Post#491 » by BeagleBoss » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:19 pm

Sprewell4Three wrote:The Lakers already have a SF, why draft another SF?

BPA?

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Re: Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8 

Post#492 » by NYKnicksTAPE » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:19 pm

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They both have us passing on dsjr.

If phil passes on dsjr if he's still their i may just give up on him.

I thought u trusted in Gaines tho

if DSJr isn't the guy then it is what it is, they have more information on him then we ever will
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Re: Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8 

Post#493 » by whocares1 » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:21 pm

NYKnicksTAPE wrote:
Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:
Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter


They both have us passing on dsjr.

If phil passes on dsjr if he's still their i may just give up on him.

I thought u trusted in Gaines tho

if DSJr isn't the guy then it is what it is, they have more information on him then we ever will


Or he doesn't fit our system because his talent is as obvious as it comes.
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Re: Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8 

Post#494 » by King of Canada » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:22 pm

Sprewell4Three wrote:The Lakers already have a SF, why draft another SF?


They already have a pg too though. Maybe they see Jackson handling the ball a little more.
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Re: Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8 

Post#495 » by NYKnicksTAPE » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:23 pm

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Worked perfectly! Patronizing wordplay that doesn't offend to the point of butthurtedness.


Whatevs. I'm back on the upside train. It's a mad, mad league we're playing in these days. It's YOLO or go home. I'm rollin' the dice on the Frenchman!


If we can find a way to nab another 1st rounder and select either Donovan Mitchell or OG Anunoby then I am back aboard the F-train.

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Re: Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8 

Post#496 » by BeagleBoss » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:23 pm

whocares1 wrote:
NYKnicksTAPE wrote:
Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:
Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter


They both have us passing on dsjr.

If phil passes on dsjr if he's still their i may just give up on him.

I thought u trusted in Gaines tho

if DSJr isn't the guy then it is what it is, they have more information on him then we ever will


Or he doesn't fit our system because his talent is as obvious as it comes.


Don't forget about his knee and character issues. There is a reason why Smith, as talented as he is, isn't a consensus top 3 pick.
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Re: Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8 

Post#497 » by Fat » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:24 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:
Nyk_Fatboy wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:

So what is the point of saying your definition of one trick pony is Steve Novak, when we Know Booker is way better at his one trick?. I don't know what your OP was really, did not read thru every detail. All I know is what I quoted you on and responded to. Like I said, the Trick is greater than the Trick initially seen of him in UK. Its obvious cause he is top 5 in that draft from what we know now, but he went 13th.


My point in that is exactly what I said Novak was always a one trick player. he never showcased anything other than that while booker is a one trick pony but has shown promise in a secondary skill.

You can say he"s a one trick now but he can peak beyond that.



Thats the obvious part. But I have to agree with other posters he has the ball so much that is why he has those assists. Not sure if he is looking to playmake ...thats a skill. Giving the ball up cause you are swarmed is not a skill.I mean JR Smith has avg 3 assists a game before...


He"s 20 and had to carry the load on his team y'all act like he is a fully developed player in his prime.

Ask the suns board if he"s shown to be a willing passer
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Re: Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8 

Post#498 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:27 pm

whocares1 wrote:
NYKnicksTAPE wrote:
Dkillanyk4lyf wrote:
Read on Twitter

Read on Twitter


They both have us passing on dsjr.

If phil passes on dsjr if he's still their i may just give up on him.

I thought u trusted in Gaines tho

if DSJr isn't the guy then it is what it is, they have more information on him then we ever will


Or he doesn't fit our system because his talent is as obvious as it comes.


KP is no one's prototypical triangle player, but he's here. no big butt. not a great passer. just a freak talent.

so, let's not suggest ideal triangle fit is and has been all that matters.
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Re: Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8 

Post#499 » by IllmaticHandler » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:28 pm

Nyk_Fatboy wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:
Nyk_Fatboy wrote:
My point in that is exactly what I said Novak was always a one trick player. he never showcased anything other than that while booker is a one trick pony but has shown promise in a secondary skill.

You can say he"s a one trick now but he can peak beyond that.



Thats the obvious part. But I have to agree with other posters he has the ball so much that is why he has those assists. Not sure if he is looking to playmake ...thats a skill. Giving the ball up cause you are swarmed is not a skill.I mean JR Smith has avg 3 assists a game before...


He"s 20 and had to carry the load on his team y'all act like he is a fully developed player in his prime.

Ask the suns board if he"s shown to be a willing passer



My dude Im not acting like anything. I already stated I think he is a good player. All I am saying that he is a one trick Pony untill he proves others wise. Those Assist numbers don't change "all he does is score" right now for me.
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Re: Draft Thread #18 - Number 8, Number 8, Number 8, Number 8 

Post#500 » by El Poochio » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:29 pm

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