2017 Lakers Draft Pick Discussion

MelosSoreWrist · Post #1081 » by **MelosSoreWrist** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:20 pm

Michael Lucky wrote:2nd work out for Jackson and he won't workout for anyone else.

Yeah, guess it is a done deal.....

If it was a done deal, he was promised already, he wouldnt be working out with the Lakers again.

A lower team promising JJ may have intrigued the Lakers and they want to reevaluate and JJ wants the Laker possibility so he works out anyway?

Post #1082 » by **TyCobb** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:22 pm

This is so fun trying to unravel this ****. :laugh:

Jon Snow · Post #1083 » by **Jon Snow** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:25 pm

I'm happy with us Laker fans having issues which one of these talented players are we going to draft rather than talking how we lost the pick last lottery.

taj2133 · Post #1084 » by **taj2133** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:27 pm

only team josh jackson workout for is the lakers in Sacramento and he hasn't work for 76ers ,suns, and Celtics. He probably workout for the kings but who knows but he did cancelled a workout with celtics yesterday.

MelosSoreWrist · Post #1085 » by **MelosSoreWrist** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:30 pm

My guess is its the Kings. I dont know if they have a trade lined up with the 76ers for the 3rd pick though. Maybe its contingent on if JJ is available or Ball is available at that spot. 76ers would have to be okay with the Suns picking Fox/DSJ in front of them. Or maybe Heild and #10 for the #3?

taj2133 · Post #1086 » by **taj2133** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:31 pm

also lets be real this team probably doesn't want to deal with the ball family its to much drama for magic and organization

Michael Lucky · Post #1087 » by **Michael Lucky** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:37 pm

MelosSoreWrist wrote:
Michael Lucky wrote:2nd work out for Jackson and he won't workout for anyone else.

Yeah, guess it is a done deal.....

If it was a done deal, he was promised already, he wouldnt be working out with the Lakers again.

A lower team promising JJ may have intrigued the Lakers and they want to reevaluate and JJ wants the Laker possibility so he works out anyway?

His camp has stated a promise was received and would not do workouts for other teams. The Lakers are the only team that have seen his workout in the top 3. He is declining workout with the Suns and celtics because of the promise. I'm sorry but this second workout sounds like a formality.

Yeah it sucks. I think Lonzo is the better player and fit however it is well known that Magic and Pelinka have put a huge emphasis on being in shape and maybe they didn't like the fact Lonzo got winded in his workout. Maybe they didn't like his leadership comments that can be perceived as a slight to Russell by some. Maybe Magic does not want to deal with other egos around like Lavar when Magic has one of his own. Maybe they love Jackson's ceiling more. Jackson was after all the top high school prospect on most boards last year

Michael Lucky · Post #1088 » by **Michael Lucky** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:39 pm

taj2133 wrote:only team josh jackson workout for is the lakers in Sacramento and he hasn't work for 76ers ,suns, and Celtics. He probably workout for the kings but who knows but he did cancelled a workout with celtics yesterday.

Also with the Suns hence how this all got started.

Jon Snow · Post #1089 » by **Jon Snow** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:39 pm

new mock draft at DX. Top 5 stands pat. http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2017/

MelosSoreWrist · Post #1090 » by **MelosSoreWrist** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:45 pm

Michael Lucky wrote:
MelosSoreWrist wrote:
Michael Lucky wrote:2nd work out for Jackson and he won't workout for anyone else.

Yeah, guess it is a done deal.....

If it was a done deal, he was promised already, he wouldnt be working out with the Lakers again.

A lower team promising JJ may have intrigued the Lakers and they want to reevaluate and JJ wants the Laker possibility so he works out anyway?

His camp has stated a promise was received and would not do workouts for other teams. The Lakers are the only team that have seen his workout in the top 3. He is declining workout with the Suns and celtics because of the promise. I'm sorry but this second workout sounds like a formality.

Yeah it sucks. I think Lonzo is the better player and fit however it is well known that Magic and Pelinka have put a huge emphasis on being in shape and maybe they didn't like the fact Lonzo got winded in his workout. Maybe they didn't like his leadership comments that can be perceived as a slight to Russell by some. Maybe Magic does not want to deal with other egos around like Lavar when Magic has one of his own. Maybe they love Jackson's ceiling more. Jackson was after all the top high school prospect on most boards last year

For me, it makes less sense for the Lakers to be giving out promises at position they are in and for a team to rework out a player they already made a promise to than if JJ elected to work out with the Lakers again because the Laker destination for him is more appealing than the current one he was promised.

iamworthy · Post #1091 » by **iamworthy** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:46 pm

Ok so I keep hearing different opinions of what position JJ will play in the NBA. Is it the 2,3, or 4

MelosSoreWrist · Post #1092 » by **MelosSoreWrist** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:51 pm

Someone explain to me how the Lakers promising a draftee with their 2nd pick makes sense. How does that benefit them at all?

Michael Lucky · Post #1093 » by **Michael Lucky** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:53 pm

iamworthy wrote:Ok so I keep hearing different opinions of what position JJ will play in the NBA. Is it the 2,3, or 4

He's a 3 whom you hope develops into a point forward. He does have good playmaking abilities. Obviously whether or not he becomes a star is based on how his shooting develops.

Michael Lucky · Post #1094 » by **Michael Lucky** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:55 pm

MelosSoreWrist wrote:Someone explain to me how the Lakers promising a draftee with their 2nd pick makes sense. How does that benefit them at all?

teams make promises all the time. Nothing new. It is also a way to build a better relationship with the agent. Something Pelinka would value.

Sushisensei26 · Post #1095 » by **Sushisensei26** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:55 pm

taj2133 wrote:breaking news josh jackson working out for the lakers again this afternoon in lakers practice facility in el segundo
Dave Miller‏Verified account @coachdavemiller 20m20 minutes ago
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Dave Miller Retweeted Arun Atwal
Yes! They saw him in Sacramento and now they will have him in a workout that they can control in their practice facility in El Segundo ☄️
https://twitter.com/coachdavemiller?lang=en

MelosSoreWrist · Post #1096 » by **MelosSoreWrist** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:55 pm

iamworthy wrote:Ok so I keep hearing different opinions of what position JJ will play in the NBA. Is it the 2,3, or 4

He could probably guard 2-4 so as long as he can hit the NBA 3, he could play 2-4. JJ and Ingram can be flexible pieces within the offense and defense. Golden State has multiple players like them.

MelosSoreWrist · Post #1097 » by **MelosSoreWrist** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:59 pm

Michael Lucky wrote:
MelosSoreWrist wrote:Someone explain to me how the Lakers promising a draftee with their 2nd pick makes sense. How does that benefit them at all?
teams make promises all the time. Nothing new. It is also a way to build a better relationship with the agent. Something Pelinka would value.

So they lock themselves in to a player in the middle of evaluation with the #2 pick so they can get brownie points with his agent?

Michael Lucky · Post #1098 » by **Michael Lucky** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:01 pm

Lost in all of this is how both Lonzo and Jackson have said no to workouts with the Celtics in favor of the Lakers.

Michael Lucky · Post #1099 » by **Michael Lucky** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:02 pm

MelosSoreWrist wrote:
Michael Lucky wrote:
MelosSoreWrist wrote:Someone explain to me how the Lakers promising a draftee with their 2nd pick makes sense. How does that benefit them at all?
teams make promises all the time. Nothing new. It is also a way to build a better relationship with the agent. Something Pelinka would value.

So they lock themselves in to a player in the middle of evaluation with the #2 pick so they can get brownie points with his agent?

They have the number 2 pick, it's not like they were going to be picking among 10 different players. Maybe they just really like Jackson.

Sushisensei26 · Post #1100 » by **Sushisensei26** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:05 pm

All of this is super confusing. Why would we promise a player when we have the 2nd pick?
Why would we bring the player in for a second workout if we've already promised him?
Are we trying to make off with Ball AND Jackson? Surely, the cost is Russell which I'm totally ok with.
Is all of this just the biggest, darkest most effed up smokescreen you've ever seen?

It would really suck if we don't draft Lonzo.

Who do the Lakers draft on June 22nd with the 2nd overall pick?