2017 NBA DRAFT Part 3

sdn40 · Post #1041 » by **sdn40** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:09 pm

Watched that video posted a while back where Thornwell scored all of his points inside the three point line. I have no clue if his game projects to the next level. I've got doubts. He got a ton of calls inside that sent him to the line. At 6'-5", not sure that will happen in the NBA.

LuessiT · Post #1042 » by **LuessiT** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:25 pm

emunney wrote:Counterpoint: Thornwell is a good shooter, but is going to struggle to stretch to NBA range. He's especially a good shooter if you consider that shooting wouldn't be in his top 3 strengths as a player.

I mean I expect Thornwell to shoot below 35% from 3 in his first year. I don't consider that a good shooter.

PANDEMONEUM · Post #1043 » by **PANDEMONEUM** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:36 pm

so basically.....nobody after the top 10 is a good shooter

SirChurros · Post #1044 » by **SirChurros** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:41 pm

xTitan wrote:
Fotis St wrote:
M-C-G wrote:Who do you guys consider the best 5 shooters in this draft?
Who do you consider the best 5 shooters available at or after pick 17 and later?

Part of me is thinking, do we just prioritize getting more shooting as the number one priority versus the best overall player available? Like weight shooting higher when looking at the prospect. In that case, guys like Ike would drop down my board some.

I get what you are saying but Kidd has Middleton and Teletovic and it seems that our offense was complete chaos. Kidd's moto " the closer to the basket you go, the bigger threat you are" is killing our shooters. We were near the bottom in the NBA in 3PAs ... so Kidd's is not thinking the way you think. I like your thought but Kidd is like driving this Franchise with his foot always on the break pedal. No reason to get a fast car when Kidd is the driver.
Anyway shooters : Kennard, Jok, not really sold on others ... there are many streaky shooters ... catch n shoot guys .... but as natural shooters are those two in my eyes.

Edit : Markannen too, Ferguson was projected as one of the best shooters in this class, but he had a low usage and poor % in Australia...

So you asked 5 best shooters
1.Markannen (picked earlier)
2.Kennard (probably picked earlier)
3.Jok (Projected Undrafted, available at #48)
4.Ferguson (probably available at #17)
5.Kurucs (available at#17)

I agree with 1 and 2, perhaps keeping Jok....but no Monk? I'd put Monk 3, considering age and all

I'd say it's pretty possible that Monk's lone season at Kentucky was an outlier as far as his shooting goes. He was not regarded as a good shooter coming out of high school, whatsoever.

LuessiT · Post #1045 » by **LuessiT** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:45 pm

PANDEMONEUM wrote:so basically.....nobody after the top 10 is a good shooter

No, there are good shooters in the draft but the further you go back the more flaws they will have. The guys you suggested are not good shooters.

LuessiT · Post #1046 » by **LuessiT** » Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:51 pm

Good shooters in this draft:
Fultz, Tatum, Markkanen, Monk, Ntilikina, Kennard, Ojeleye, Lydon, White, Evans, Jackson, Peters, Swanigan, Hart, Brown, Mason, Dorsey, Morris, Jok, etc.. Probably forgot a few.

VooDoo7 · Post #1047 » by **VooDoo7** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:57 am

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19629539/lavar-ball-signs-autograph-deal

If you pay for a LaVar Ball autograph, you may wanna re-evaluate your life.

Iheartfootball · Post #1048 » by **Iheartfootball** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:17 am

VooDoo7 wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19629539/lavar-ball-signs-autograph-deal

If you pay for a LaVar Ball autograph, you may wanna re-evaluate your life.

I think this is gonna be a train wreck for the Lakers. This kid has been parented his whole life by an ****. I don't know if he has ever heard the word humble. I hope I'm wrong.

machu46 · Post #1049 » by **machu46** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:20 am

My top shooters in the draft (among first round picks):
Markkanen
Kennard
Monk
Tyler Lydon

Best among guys that will potentially be available at our pick:
Kennard (probably not)
Lydon
Semi Ojeleye
Derrick White

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VooDoo7 · Post #1050 » by **VooDoo7** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:21 am

Iheartfootball wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/19629539/lavar-ball-signs-autograph-deal

If you pay for a LaVar Ball autograph, you may wanna re-evaluate your life.

I think this is gonna be a train wreck for the Lakers. This kid has been parented his whole life by an ****. I don't know if he has ever heard the word humble. I hope I'm wrong.

Surprisingly, any interview I've seen of Lonzo, he comes off as a good kid. Nothing like you'd expect, judging my his loudmouth, windbag of a dad.

Post #1051 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:37 pm

Read on Twitter

crkone · Post #1052 » by **crkone** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:40 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:

Read on Twitter

Jesus would not have expected to see that at all. :lol:

Ron Swanson · Post #1053 » by **Ron Swanson** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:55 pm

Well at least Lonzo has a good sense of humor about it. I think people aren't understanding that it's all an act. Like Skip Bayless and Alex Jones, LaVar is just playing a troll character to the media.

Post #1054 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:19 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Well at least Lonzo has a good sense of humor about it. I think people aren't understanding that it's all an act. Like Skip Bayless and Alex Jones, LaVar is just playing a troll character to the media.

That's what I think those who support him want to believe. Le Batard has had this angle since the start. I don't think it's an act at all. Nothing in his past indicates it is. He's simply a Bad Sports Parent.

Ron Swanson · Post #1055 » by **Ron Swanson** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:24 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Well at least Lonzo has a good sense of humor about it. I think people aren't understanding that it's all an act. Like Skip Bayless and Alex Jones, LaVar is just playing a troll character to the media.

That's what I think those who support him want to believe. Le Batard has had this angle since the start. I don't think it's an act at all. Nothing in his past indicates it is. He's simply a Bad Sports Parent.

I think it's an act. He knows that ESPN and Fox Sports eat that **** up, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't still rightfully call him an obnoxious douche.

Post #1056 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:26 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Well at least Lonzo has a good sense of humor about it. I think people aren't understanding that it's all an act. Like Skip Bayless and Alex Jones, LaVar is just playing a troll character to the media.

That's what I think those who support him want to believe. Le Batard has had this angle since the start. I don't think it's an act at all. Nothing in his past indicates it is. He's simply a Bad Sports Parent.

I think it's an act. He knows that ESPN and Fox Sports eat that **** up, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't still rightfully call him an obnoxious douche.

FWIW, Skip Bayless 100% believes what he says and takes his sports taeks more seriously than anyone. It's not a schtick for him either.

Post #1057 » by **Prez** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:27 pm

Lonzo himself has said his dad has been like this for as long as he could remember, the only difference is now he's a blue chip NBA prospect and everyone sees it on TV now.

Matches Malone · Post #1058 » by **Matches Malone** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:32 pm

Read on Twitter

Since Bam is in for a workout today, I decided to watch some film on him. His offensive game is a lot more polished than I realized. It was interesting when I watched an interview with him, they asked where he was most comfortable on defense and his answer was the 3 or 4 position. I always assumed he was more of a 5 from everything I've seen or read.

What do you guys think his best position will be? He's got good size at 6'10 with a 7'2 wingspan. I liked Anigbogu for his 7'6 wingspan, but his offensive game is very raw. Adebayo seems head and shoulders above in that department. As the draft nears, the guy I want us to take changes by day.

Garden Of Edens · Post #1059 » by **Garden Of Edens** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:37 pm

Well its pretty obvious we're most likely drafting a big, which shows me the expect Henson is gone and Monroe to opt out. If we go with a raw 3 yr project big man, than we better trade or sign a scorer to come off the bench

emunney · Post #1060 » by **emunney** » Wed Jun 14, 2017 2:39 pm

Matches Malone wrote:

Read on Twitter

Since Bam is in for a workout today, I decided to watch some film on him. His offensive game is a lot more polished than I realized. It was interesting when I watched an interview with him, they asked where he was most comfortable on defense and his answer was the 3 or 4 position. I always assumed he was more of a 5 from everything I've seen or read.

What do you guys think his best position will be? He's got good size at 6'10 with a 7'2 wingspan. I liked Anigbogu for his 7'6 wingspan, but his offensive game is very raw. Adebayo seems head and shoulders above in that department. As the draft nears, the guy I want us to take changes by day.

See that just makes me think Bam is delusional and he should be off the board entirely. It's one thing to have confidence, it's another to have a wildly inaccurate self-understanding.