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Who do the Lakers draft on June 22nd with the 2nd overall pick?

Poll ended at Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:11 pm

Lonzo Ball
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Josh Jackson
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#1201 » by TyCobb » Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:19 pm

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TyCobb wrote:Fultz has arguably the worst cardio out of Ball, Jackson, and Fox. Wonder if he can even finish the workout.

Did you go on a jog with Markelle recently? He played 36 minutes a game.


:lol:

His season ended much earlier than everyone elses. Carries the most weight.. played only 25 games. Thought you knew.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#1202 » by RamonSessions7 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:31 pm

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dockingsched wrote:Josh Jackson's interview showed a well spoken guy, handled the question about his anger management pretty well. Responses were a lot less cliche than Ball, which made it more enjoyable. Ball has to be so careful cause of the microscope he's under.


Except when he's on Jimmy Kimmel and says that he can beat Jordan 1 on 1, right?

I would hope he'd believe he's capable of beating a 54yr old Michael Jordan. That wasn't too groundbreaking of a statement.
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Post#1203 » by tugs » Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:37 pm

Hey Ty thanks for that. Haven't been following much.

I'm really excited. I don't think you can mess this pick up.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#1204 » by Jon Snow » Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:58 pm

Still all for Lonzo. D'Lo, Jahlil Okafor and Buddy Hield worked out for the Lakers twice as well.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#1205 » by One Love » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:13 pm

Russell & #28 for #3 is very interesting... Ball, Jackson & Ingram would be a great young core... Russell would complement Simmons & Embid... Interesting...
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Re: RE: Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#1206 » by TheRealKaboom » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:25 pm

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There is ZERO change that we trade Dlo for just the #3 pick. Why would we give away the best player on the team for the #3 pick that could be a bust? As for throwing in the #28, Magic isnt giving away the team and picks?

If we trade Dlo, we are getting more than just the #3 back. It has to be a minimum 2 first round picks and possibly swaping of other players on top. The Lakers FO doesnt mind trading Clarkson but if we are trading one of the foundation for the Lakers, we better be getting some sweet deal.


Thank you. I don't understand our fans' assessment of players' value makes any sense. It's freaking ridiculous. Dlo has way more value than the crap I see posted here. I'm down to trade him too but not for peanuts.

I'd say there are a lot of homer goggles with DLo. Look at the facts.. He's slow, not athletic, not even quick, immature, high turn over pg. People claim he is a "shooter" but he shot like 35% from three this year. He got a loose handle and makes bad decisions with the ball causing lot of turn overs. He has to play like a Wiley vet to score because he can't blow by or shake by anyone.(like a poor man's old Sam cassell) Only way he can score is in pick n rolls. And did I mention hes immature?

Dlo was a miss, Porzingis was the right pick. If Pelinka can correct Mitch's mistake from couple years ago by getting a second pick into the top half of this year's lotto then he HAS to do it. Like I said before, this is probably the last year we get high value for him based on potential. Otherwise he has to show something next year. Show consistency and a 40% three.. He can't keep having 18 pt games followed up by 6 pt games with five tos. If Dlo struggles next year then we can only trade him for peanuts after..

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Fans of other teams who wished they'd drafted him coming to our thread and trying to troll is lame.

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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#1207 » by Jon Snow » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:35 pm

Markelle Fultz to have his individual & closed workout tomorrow, scheduled from 10:30-11:45 am. He'll talk to media afterwards

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The Lakers have not given anyone assurances that they will be drafting them at No. 2. Still very much evaluating.

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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#1208 » by dockingsched » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:50 pm

Ramona saying that there's a lot of smokescreen coming out of LA and now Fultz coming for a workout makes it seem like the Celtics taking Ball is a possibility, even if a small posssiblity. Otherwise why the need for a smokescreen or the need for Fultz to decide to come work out.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#1209 » by meetbishop » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:00 pm

TylersLakers wrote:Ramona was on with the morning show and confirmed this was pretty much all a smoke screen and that the "out of shape" thing is being overblown. That makes me feel a little better.


I feel like the Celtics start all this with their leaks about Fultz. I believe this is all a smoke screen to stop the Celtics from taking Ball or the Lakers may be considering a trade. And the fact that Sixers have not workout anybody in the top 5 is also very strange.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#1210 » by iamworthy » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:04 pm

Am I allowed to like more than one prospect :lol: :lol: seems like it's not allowed in this thread :hug:
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#1211 » by Pythagoras » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:18 pm

iamworthy wrote:Am I allowed to like more than one prospect :lol: :lol: seems like it's not allowed in this thread :hug:


It's not that JJ is a bad prospect, but for the Lakers situation in particular, there's a lot of red flags.

-Bad fit for the team as far as position he plays (he's not good enough offensively to be a 2 guard)
-Adds to the spacing woes due to lack of jump shot
-Couldn't behave himself in freaking Lawrence, Ks, now we're talking about him being a millionaire in LA

If the Lakers didn't have Ingram, I'd be more intrigued. If Ball wasn't a much better fit (in addition to being a better prospect), I'd be more intrigued.

And don't even get me started on the god awful trade proposals of trading D'Lo for the 3rd pick so you can take this dude. Anyone suggesting that trade needs to head to the left with that nonsense.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#1212 » by Jon Snow » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:25 pm

dockingsched wrote:Ramona saying that there's a lot of smokescreen coming out of LA and now Fultz coming for a workout makes it seem like the Celtics taking Ball is a possibility, even if a small posssiblity. Otherwise why the need for a smokescreen or the need for Fultz to decide to come work out.


LA getting prepared if Ball gets drafted by Boston. Fultz, surely is number 2 on their list.
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Post#1213 » by NBAWestFan » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:29 pm

One Love wrote:Russell & #28 for #3 is very interesting... Ball, Jackson & Ingram would be a great young core... Russell would complement Simmons & Embid... Interesting...



I prefer Ball, Jackson & Ingram to

Ball, Russel & Ingram as the core.

Jackson is by the best defender and the best motor.

Though Russell is a good shooter he is 6 -5 Not 6 -6 with long arms.
A good defender can shut him down if needed. But, can he shut down a great shooter?

Long term Ball /Jackson is greater than Ball/Russell

Shooters can be found in free agency or through the draft.

Lakers need to improve their quickness and defense.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#1214 » by Pythagoras » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:41 pm

NBAWestFan wrote:
One Love wrote:Russell & #28 for #3 is very interesting... Ball, Jackson & Ingram would be a great young core... Russell would complement Simmons & Embid... Interesting...



I prefer Ball, Jackson & Ingram to

Ball, Russel & Ingram as the core.

Jackson is by the best defender and the best motor.

Though Russell is a good shooter he is 6 -5 Not 6 -6 with long arms.
A good defender can shut him down if needed. But, can he shut down a great shooter?

Long term Ball /Jackson is greater than Ball/Russell

Shooters can be found in free agency or through the draft.

Lakers need to improve their quickness and defense.


Lakers need to improve their shooting too, not make it worse. Trading a guy with AS potential for a defensive specialist is insanity.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#1215 » by iamworthy » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:45 pm

I'm in on ball but for different reasons than most people. I'm more interested in his shooting ability than his point guard ability. I have a feeling that whoever gets the rebound will be the person to push the ball. Lakers currently encourage Randle, and BI to push the ball so I don't see very many Lakers actually looking for ball for the outlet. But his shooting analytics are impressive. Lakers want to play like the warriors, well the fastest way to get there offensively is get willing passers and guys that can shoot. Ball is one of those guys. Team defense will improve as these guys get more seasoned.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#1216 » by Sixerscan » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:47 pm

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dockingsched wrote:Ramona saying that there's a lot of smokescreen coming out of LA and now Fultz coming for a workout makes it seem like the Celtics taking Ball is a possibility, even if a small posssiblity. Otherwise why the need for a smokescreen or the need for Fultz to decide to come work out.


LA getting prepared if Ball gets drafted by Boston. Fultz, surely is number 2 on their list.

Feel like at best this is Boston trying to see if they can spook you guys into giving something up for 1. Would be shocked if Fultz didn't end up in Boston/Ball in LA.
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Re: RE: Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#1217 » by XXBKXX » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:51 pm

Pythagoras wrote:
NBAWestFan wrote:
One Love wrote:Russell & #28 for #3 is very interesting... Ball, Jackson & Ingram would be a great young core... Russell would complement Simmons & Embid... Interesting...



I prefer Ball, Jackson & Ingram to

Ball, Russel & Ingram as the core.

Jackson is by the best defender and the best motor.

Though Russell is a good shooter he is 6 -5 Not 6 -6 with long arms.
A good defender can shut him down if needed. But, can he shut down a great shooter?

Long term Ball /Jackson is greater than Ball/Russell

Shooters can be found in free agency or through the draft.

Lakers need to improve their quickness and defense.


Lakers need to improve their shooting too, not make it worse. Trading a guy with AS potential for a defensive specialist is insanity.

There's so many Dlo hopefuls it's boggling. It's like we are watching two different people? Dlo is far from a lock to be an all star caliber player. If we keep him and cement him as a corner Stone moving forward then I hope to God for our sake he turns out to be. But it's homer goggles to believe he is a pure lock to be an all star. JJ has a much higher ceiling than Dlo. For almost the same reasons why Ingram has a higher ceiling than Dlo. Which is why he's our only untouchable piece. Dlo is limited.

JJ for Dlo is a steal for us. If Dlo **** the bed next year we are stuck in a situation where we will have to commit long term money to him or trade him for pennies to the dollar.. this trade for a top three pick will be long gone next year if Dlo fails. So how sure are we that Dlo is the can't miss all star everyone's making him out to be?

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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#1218 » by Slava » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:51 pm

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dockingsched wrote:Ramona saying that there's a lot of smokescreen coming out of LA and now Fultz coming for a workout makes it seem like the Celtics taking Ball is a possibility, even if a small posssiblity. Otherwise why the need for a smokescreen or the need for Fultz to decide to come work out.


LA getting prepared if Ball gets drafted by Boston. Fultz, surely is number 2 on their list.

Feel like at best this is Boston trying to see if they can spook you guys into giving something up for 1. Would be shocked if Fultz didn't end up in Boston/Ball in LA.


If Ainge tried that Lakers should switch off their phone for a few days and let Lavar raise all the stink he can before coming to Boston with a low ball offer or else just stick to fultz, the better prospect.
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#1219 » by Hank7 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:53 pm

dockingsched wrote:Ramona saying that there's a lot of smokescreen coming out of LA and now Fultz coming for a workout makes it seem like the Celtics taking Ball is a possibility, even if a small posssiblity. Otherwise why the need for a smokescreen or the need for Fultz to decide to come work out.



Stevens will not take Ball ... his defense would be a big problem playing with IT and Boston wants to be good now to challenge the Cavs. They'll take Fultz or JJ ... big baller Ball will be there for the Laker's to take ... but Magic will take De'Aaron. :D
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Re: 2017 NBA Draft Thread: Lakeshow edition 

Post#1220 » by nymets1 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:55 pm

Who do the majority of Lakers fan on here believe the lakers are drafting? Your front office seems unsure between Ball, Jackson or Fox.
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