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Re: The case for Jonathan Isaac 

Post#401 » by mr2good » Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:29 pm

I feel like promises are rare in the top 5, but if he was actually in Orlando yesterday and has family in FL and we still can't get a workout with him... Well than he probably has a promise from PHX. My thing is that doesn't make sense. Say Philly trades the 3rd pick to Sac and Sac takes Fox. Well PHX might then take JJ and leave Isaac on the outside looking in.

Hopefully the initial report on twitter is inaccurate and he just doesn't want to work out for the Wolves :D
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Post#402 » by cedric76 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 4:45 pm

mr2good wrote:I feel like promises are rare in the top 5, but if he was actually in Orlando yesterday and has family in FL and we still can't get a workout with him... Well than he probably has a promise from PHX. My thing is that doesn't make sense. Say Philly trades the 3rd pick to Sac and Sac takes Fox. Well PHX might then take JJ and leave Isaac on the outside looking in.

Hopefully the initial report on twitter is inaccurate and he just doesn't want to work out for the Wolves :D

Yes , it doesn't smell good :-(

Sad news

Once we miss on jackson and Isaac there is a big drop

Not many other 2way players
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Re: The case for Jonathan Isaac 

Post#403 » by Blue_and_Whte » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:02 pm

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cedric76 wrote:
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I searched google, twitter, instagram and basically any news article I could read and no body mentions Isaac working out for the Magic...

He was in Orlando yesterday

His Snapchat story had a location tag in Orlando


he flew into Orlando and made his way home to Naples where some of his family lives.

Haha... Issac fans still holding out hope. He can go **** himself as far as I'm concerned. Didn't want him anyway.


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Re: The case for Jonathan Isaac 

Post#404 » by Blue_and_Whte » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:05 pm

cedric76 wrote:
mr2good wrote:I feel like promises are rare in the top 5, but if he was actually in Orlando yesterday and has family in FL and we still can't get a workout with him... Well than he probably has a promise from PHX. My thing is that doesn't make sense. Say Philly trades the 3rd pick to Sac and Sac takes Fox. Well PHX might then take JJ and leave Isaac on the outside looking in.

Hopefully the initial report on twitter is inaccurate and he just doesn't want to work out for the Wolves :D

Yes , it doesn't smell good :-(

Sad news

Once we miss on jackson and Isaac there is a big drop

Not many other 2way players

That's bull. There isn't a big drop after Issac stop exaggerating.


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Re: The case for Jonathan Isaac 

Post#405 » by mr2good » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:05 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
cedric76 wrote:He was in Orlando yesterday

His Snapchat story had a location tag in Orlando


he flew into Orlando and made his way home to Naples where some of his family lives.

Haha... Issac fans still holding out hope. He can go **** himself as far as I'm concerned. Didn't want him anyway.


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No need to be rude about it. All it means is that your evaluation of he's not good enough to go top 6 was even more off if he goes top 4.
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Re: The case for Jonathan Isaac 

Post#406 » by Nemesis21 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:06 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
cedric76 wrote:He was in Orlando yesterday

His Snapchat story had a location tag in Orlando


he flew into Orlando and made his way home to Naples where some of his family lives.

Haha... Issac fans still holding out hope. He can go **** himself as far as I'm concerned. Didn't want him anyway.


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:dontknow: Nice attitude.
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Re: RE: Re: The case for Jonathan Isaac 

Post#407 » by Hoopslife » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:23 pm

MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
mr2good wrote:
I searched google, twitter, instagram and basically any news article I could read and no body mentions Isaac working out for the Magic...

He was in Orlando yesterday

His Snapchat story had a location tag in Orlando


he flew into Orlando and made his way home to Naples where some of his family lives.


No one flies into Orlando to visit Naples. SWFL has a large airport and there are about 3 others between Naples and Orlando that he could get a flight to...
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Re: RE: Re: The case for Jonathan Isaac 

Post#408 » by KillMonger » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:24 pm

cedric76 wrote:
mr2good wrote:I feel like promises are rare in the top 5, but if he was actually in Orlando yesterday and has family in FL and we still can't get a workout with him... Well than he probably has a promise from PHX. My thing is that doesn't make sense. Say Philly trades the 3rd pick to Sac and Sac takes Fox. Well PHX might then take JJ and leave Isaac on the outside looking in.

Hopefully the initial report on twitter is inaccurate and he just doesn't want to work out for the Wolves :D

Yes , it doesn't smell good :-(

Sad news

Once we miss on jackson and Isaac there is a big drop

Not many other 2way players
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Re: RE: Re: The case for Jonathan Isaac 

Post#409 » by OrlChamps2030 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:26 pm

cedric76 wrote:
mr2good wrote:I feel like promises are rare in the top 5, but if he was actually in Orlando yesterday and has family in FL and we still can't get a workout with him... Well than he probably has a promise from PHX. My thing is that doesn't make sense. Say Philly trades the 3rd pick to Sac and Sac takes Fox. Well PHX might then take JJ and leave Isaac on the outside looking in.

Hopefully the initial report on twitter is inaccurate and he just doesn't want to work out for the Wolves :D

Yes , it doesn't smell good :-(

Sad news

Once we miss on jackson and Isaac there is a big drop

Not many other 2way players


Lol the guy most bummed about potentially missing out on Isaac is the guy who was most against tanking :lol: can't make this up
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Re: The case for Jonathan Isaac 

Post#410 » by PennytoShaq » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:32 pm

mr2good wrote:I feel like promises are rare in the top 5, but if he was actually in Orlando yesterday and has family in FL and we still can't get a workout with him... Well than he probably has a promise from PHX. My thing is that doesn't make sense. Say Philly trades the 3rd pick to Sac and Sac takes Fox. Well PHX might then take JJ and leave Isaac on the outside looking in.

Hopefully the initial report on twitter is inaccurate and he just doesn't want to work out for the Wolves :D


I think LA may take Jackson. They may see a Forward combo of Jackson and Ingram as very intriguing, and to be honest I can not blame them.

That would get Ball to Philly, where he would be a perfect fit. Suns take Isaac. Kings take Fox. We take Tatum or DSJ.
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Re: The case for Jonathan Isaac 

Post#411 » by Nyce_1 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 5:54 pm

According to PHX media, the Sun's have met with Isaac twice.
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Re: The case for Jonathan Isaac 

Post#412 » by Skin » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:06 pm

Haven't really had a discussion on his character... Some of his coach's words...

"There's no question about it," Isaac's college coach, Leonard Hamilton, told me the other day, agreeing with me on both Isaac having the highest ceiling in this draft and the constitution to live up to the label. "Jonathan is an extremely humble person, but he's also a very hard worker, extremely focused. Of all the players I've coached, he comes in as a youngster with an extremely high basketball IQ, one of the highest basketball IQs I've seen. He sees the game through a mature set of eyes, almost coach-like. He values all the little things that are important about the game."

"He has the versatility to be whatever a coach wants him to be," Hamilton told me. "He's so rare in terms of having such a talented guy who just really, really gets it. He's a confident person. He'll respect authority and respect the culture of the team, but he'll speak up when there's something that needs to be talked about. He's not a 'yes' man. He respects right from wrong. He's the kind of young man parents want their kids to grow up to be."

....and then an excerpt that reiterates what supporters have been saying...

In an NBA that spreads the floor like it does, Isaac is the type of player who fits the modern league like a glove. He's a near 7-footer who can put the ball on the floor and knock down 3s, which he did at a 35 percent clip in college at an average of nearly three attempts per game. He rebounds in traffic, he makes free throws, he doesn't pass up open looks, he makes the pass that leads to the pass that gets the assist. He was the most effective shot-blocker and rebounder for one of the tallest teams in college basketball. But what Hamilton believes will make him most valuable in the NBA isn't necessarily just his effectiveness close to the rim. It's that he's as comfortable under the rim as he is out on the perimeter -- on offense, and on defense. There's not a big man in this draft who'll be as effective switching on pick-and-rolls as Isaac is.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/why-mini-kevin-durant-jonathan-isaac-has-the-nba-drafts-highest-ceiling/
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Re: The case for Jonathan Isaac 

Post#413 » by Skin » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:10 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:According to PHX media, the Sun's have met with Isaac twice.

That would be an endorsement from an NBA team that wants him to play SF.

Wouldn't blame them. He'll be a better SF than Tatum.
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Re: The case for Jonathan Isaac 

Post#414 » by Def Swami » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:26 pm

Isaac in Phoenix makes a lot of sense. It would be a good situation for both sides. You can trust Phoenix to maximize his potential as a stretch 5.

But, Isaac going to PHX means maybe Tatum or Jackson falls? I'll take that consolation all day.
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Re: The case for Jonathan Isaac 

Post#415 » by PennytoShaq » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:26 pm

Skin wrote:Haven't really had a discussion on his character... Some of his coach's words...

"There's no question about it," Isaac's college coach, Leonard Hamilton, told me the other day, agreeing with me on both Isaac having the highest ceiling in this draft and the constitution to live up to the label. "Jonathan is an extremely humble person, but he's also a very hard worker, extremely focused. Of all the players I've coached, he comes in as a youngster with an extremely high basketball IQ, one of the highest basketball IQs I've seen. He sees the game through a mature set of eyes, almost coach-like. He values all the little things that are important about the game."

"He has the versatility to be whatever a coach wants him to be," Hamilton told me. "He's so rare in terms of having such a talented guy who just really, really gets it. He's a confident person. He'll respect authority and respect the culture of the team, but he'll speak up when there's something that needs to be talked about. He's not a 'yes' man. He respects right from wrong. He's the kind of young man parents want their kids to grow up to be."

....and then an excerpt that reiterates what supporters have been saying...

In an NBA that spreads the floor like it does, Isaac is the type of player who fits the modern league like a glove. He's a near 7-footer who can put the ball on the floor and knock down 3s, which he did at a 35 percent clip in college at an average of nearly three attempts per game. He rebounds in traffic, he makes free throws, he doesn't pass up open looks, he makes the pass that leads to the pass that gets the assist. He was the most effective shot-blocker and rebounder for one of the tallest teams in college basketball. But what Hamilton believes will make him most valuable in the NBA isn't necessarily just his effectiveness close to the rim. It's that he's as comfortable under the rim as he is out on the perimeter -- on offense, and on defense. There's not a big man in this draft who'll be as effective switching on pick-and-rolls as Isaac is.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/why-mini-kevin-durant-jonathan-isaac-has-the-nba-drafts-highest-ceiling/


Yes, all things I have been quite vocal about for a few months now. I also said I thought he could jump into the top 5, and that appears that it is happening as well. If there is good news to take out of this for Orlando, it is that we could have a shot at Tatum or Fox now.
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Re: The case for Jonathan Isaac 

Post#416 » by PennytoShaq » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:27 pm

Def Swami wrote:Isaac in Phoenix makes a lot of sense. It would be a good situation for both sides. You can trust Phoenix to maximize his potential as a stretch 5.

But, Isaac going to PHX means maybe Tatum or Jackson falls? I'll take that consolation all day.


I think it is Tatum for Orlando, which is a nice pick. Looking like - Fultz - Jackson- Ball- Isaac- Fox - Tatum if I had to guess based on today's info.
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Re: The case for Jonathan Isaac 

Post#417 » by Viper1500 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:36 pm

Not that I would be mad but I'm starting to think Issac goes in the top 5.


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Re: The case for Jonathan Isaac 

Post#418 » by Blue_and_Whte » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:37 pm

mr2good wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:
MartinsIzAfraud wrote:
he flew into Orlando and made his way home to Naples where some of his family lives.

Haha... Issac fans still holding out hope. He can go **** himself as far as I'm concerned. Didn't want him anyway.


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No need to be rude about it. All it means is that your evaluation of he's not good enough to go top 6 was even more off if he goes top 4.

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:dontknow: Nice attitude.

Rude? Attitude? Your mistake is that I give a rats ass about either of those things. Johnathan Issac can go **** himself. If we draft him, I will drink heavily, and will wait the 4-5 years before he turns into anything. There is nothing I can do about that. But he hasnt done a damn thing to go around trying to decide who drafts him. He will play for whichever team takes him and he'll like it.
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Re: The case for Jonathan Isaac 

Post#419 » by OrlChamps2030 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:39 pm

Def Swami wrote:Isaac in Phoenix makes a lot of sense. It would be a good situation for both sides. You can trust Phoenix to maximize his potential as a stretch 5.

But, Isaac going to PHX means maybe Tatum or Jackson falls? I'll take that consolation all day.


You think? With Warren, Chriss, and Bender i think they could have a bit of a log jam
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Re: The case for Jonathan Isaac 

Post#420 » by Nemesis21 » Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:43 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:
mr2good wrote:
Blue_and_Whte wrote:Haha... Issac fans still holding out hope. He can go **** himself as far as I'm concerned. Didn't want him anyway.


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No need to be rude about it. All it means is that your evaluation of he's not good enough to go top 6 was even more off if he goes top 4.

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:dontknow: Nice attitude.

Rude? Attitude? Your mistake is that I give a rats ass about either of those things. Johnathan Issac can go **** himself. If we draft him, I will drink heavily, and will wait the 4-5 years before he turns into anything. There is nothing I can do about that. But he hasnt done a damn thing to go around trying to decide who drafts him. He will play for whichever team takes him and he'll like it.



What did the kid ever do to you? Beat you up and take your lunch money? He can go **** himself because he may or may not work out for the Magic? Because he was in Central Fl and not for a work out? Piss poor attitude. How about you go **** yourself.

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