Predict our big off-season trade

[cedric76]

how about:
W/ Den
AG & #25 & #35
For
Faried & # 13

AG is a FA after this next year, He'll probably get more than the $12M, Faried is signed for, for the next 2 seasons.
Right now, not much difference in their games, except Manimal doesn't shoot (and miss) 3s.

Getting the 13th pick, would allow for a ZACH COLLINS like pick, Paired with a PG or SF, I'd be pretty happy.

R u mad?

Ag is better than those mid lottery pick (tbh I wouldn't consider it unless it s the #1 pick)

Would you trade #25 & 35 for 13?? I think everyone does that.

Would you trade Faried for AG? As Player vs. Player, almost 100% would not. But, as Ralphie suggests some of this is based on potential.
Would you rather have AG at 20M or Faried at 12M?
That 8M a year could be handy while constructing a WHOLE roster.
Of course this is betting on AG not getting significantly better. But, Faried could give us more than what AG did this last year, and that is proven.

Green font?

Are you seriously talking about trading ag for faried?

[TDJacksonville]

What about trading Payton, Mario, watson, Zimmerman for Danny green, Kyle anderson, and dejounte Murray. Helps give them some cap room to pursue Paul.

Allows us to get a 3 and d guy and 2 promising young guys



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[BadMofoPimp]

What about trading Payton, Mario, watson, Zimmerman for Danny green, Kyle anderson, and dejounte Murray. Helps give them some cap room to pursue Paul.

Allows us to get a 3 and d guy and 2 promising young guys



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Are you talking about Chris Paul? He is either taking less money to go to a contender or staying in LA for the Money. No chance he even blinks at the Magic.

[TDJacksonville]

What about trading Payton, Mario, watson, Zimmerman for Danny green, Kyle anderson, and dejounte Murray. Helps give them some cap room to pursue Paul.

Allows us to get a 3 and d guy and 2 promising young guys



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Are you talking about Chris Paul? He is either taking less money to go to a contender or staying in LA for the Money. No chance he even blinks at the Magic.

Paul going to spurs. Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.

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[BadMofoPimp]

What about trading Payton, Mario, watson, Zimmerman for Danny green, Kyle anderson, and dejounte Murray. Helps give them some cap room to pursue Paul.

Allows us to get a 3 and d guy and 2 promising young guys



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Are you talking about Chris Paul? He is either taking less money to go to a contender or staying in LA for the Money. No chance he even blinks at the Magic.

Paul going to spurs. Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.

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My bad. I don't think the Spurs would do that trade. And, regarding your comment, displaying crudeness is not an admirable strong suit.

[Bensational]

What about trading Payton, Mario, watson, Zimmerman for Danny green, Kyle anderson, and dejounte Murray. Helps give them some cap room to pursue Paul.

Allows us to get a 3 and d guy and 2 promising young guys

I feel like the Spurs would instantly turn Payton and Mario into players ten times better than Anderson and Murray. Payton is already better than both, and the Spurs could probably get Mario to tap into his potential.

I'm a big Anderson fan, but I wouldn't want to be gifting San Antonio superior players just to get him. I like your thinking though.

[TDJacksonville]

What about trading Payton, Mario, watson, Zimmerman for Danny green, Kyle anderson, and dejounte Murray. Helps give them some cap room to pursue Paul.

Allows us to get a 3 and d guy and 2 promising young guys

I feel like the Spurs would instantly turn Payton and Mario into players ten times better than Anderson and Murray. Payton is already better than both, and the Spurs could probably get Mario to tap into his potential.

I'm a big Anderson fan, but I wouldn't want to be gifting San Antonio superior players just to get him. I like your thinking though.

we need a infusion of winners. Peyton is expendable with drafting frank or Dennis. Mario has potential but so did darko and he never reached it.
Anderson could give us a combo forward.

Fournier, Ross, biz, dj all need to be traded as well.



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[Bensational]

What about trading Payton, Mario, watson, Zimmerman for Danny green, Kyle anderson, and dejounte Murray. Helps give them some cap room to pursue Paul.

Allows us to get a 3 and d guy and 2 promising young guys

I feel like the Spurs would instantly turn Payton and Mario into players ten times better than Anderson and Murray. Payton is already better than both, and the Spurs could probably get Mario to tap into his potential.

I'm a big Anderson fan, but I wouldn't want to be gifting San Antonio superior players just to get him. I like your thinking though.

we need a infusion of winners. Peyton is expendable with drafting frank or Dennis. Mario has potential but so did darko and he never reached it.
Anderson could give us a combo forward.

Fournier, Ross, biz, dj all need to be traded as well.

I'm interested in the team clearing enough cap space to bring in someone like Jonathan Simmons. He looks like someone who's capable of carrying an offense and at the very least inflating his value beyond what he signs for. I'd rather him than Fournier, at this point, so I'd be looking to package Fournier with the #25 to move up into the late lottery if possible. Maybe a deal with Charlotte can be made? I'm doubting Dallas or Sacramento would make that deal, though.

Maybe Mario for Anderson straight up would work, because Anderson is a great glue guy. I'd wait until after the draft to see what happens with Payton and the PG spot. There's no guarantee we come away with his replacement just yet.

[TDJacksonville]

I feel like the Spurs would instantly turn Payton and Mario into players ten times better than Anderson and Murray. Payton is already better than both, and the Spurs could probably get Mario to tap into his potential.

I'm a big Anderson fan, but I wouldn't want to be gifting San Antonio superior players just to get him. I like your thinking though.

we need a infusion of winners. Peyton is expendable with drafting frank or Dennis. Mario has potential but so did darko and he never reached it.
Anderson could give us a combo forward.

Fournier, Ross, biz, dj all need to be traded as well.

I'm interested in the team clearing enough cap space to bring in someone like Jonathan Simmons. He looks like someone who's capable of carrying an offense and at the very least inflating his value beyond what he signs for. I'd rather him than Fournier, at this point, so I'd be looking to package Fournier with the #25 to move up into the late lottery if possible. Maybe a deal with Charlotte can be made? I'm doubting Dallas or Sacramento would make that deal, though.

Maybe Mario for Anderson straight up would work, because Anderson is a great glue guy. I'd wait until after the draft to see what happens with Payton and the PG spot. There's no guarantee we come away with his replacement just yet.

We can always sign the central Michigan guy

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[JBSouthpaw]

R u mad?

Ag is better than those mid lottery pick (tbh I wouldn't consider it unless it s the #1 pick)

Would you trade #25 & 35 for 13?? I think everyone does that.

Would you trade Faried for AG? As Player vs. Player, almost 100% would not. But, as Ralphie suggests some of this is based on potential.
Would you rather have AG at 20M or Faried at 12M?
That 8M a year could be handy while constructing a WHOLE roster.
Of course this is betting on AG not getting significantly better. But, Faried could give us more than what AG did this last year, and that is proven.

Green font?

Are you seriously talking about trading ag for faried?

no I'm not. please re-read what I said. However:
Right now, is AG better than Faried?
Faried has better FG%, gets to the line more, more rebounds, steals and less turnovers. Playing 8 minutes less per game.

[Knightro]

no I'm not. please re-read what I said. However:
Right now, is AG better than Faried?
Faried has better FG%, gets to the line more, more rebounds, steals and less turnovers. Playing 8 minutes less per game.

Don't forget about the six year age gap. Aaron Gordon already has 5000 minutes under his belt at age 21. Faried had 0 at the same age.

Faried is better at his far more specialized role, but Gordon is the better basketball player overall with far more potential for greatness.

[cedric76]

Would you trade #25 & 35 for 13?? I think everyone does that.

Would you trade Faried for AG? As Player vs. Player, almost 100% would not. But, as Ralphie suggests some of this is based on potential.
Would you rather have AG at 20M or Faried at 12M?
That 8M a year could be handy while constructing a WHOLE roster.
Of course this is betting on AG not getting significantly better. But, Faried could give us more than what AG did this last year, and that is proven.

Green font?

Are you seriously talking about trading ag for faried?

no I'm not. please re-read what I said. However:
Right now, is AG better than Faried?
Faried has better FG%, gets to the line more, more rebounds, steals and less turnovers. Playing 8 minutes less per game.

Too much nba2k

[JBSouthpaw]

no I'm not. please re-read what I said. However:
Right now, is AG better than Faried?
Faried has better FG%, gets to the line more, more rebounds, steals and less turnovers. Playing 8 minutes less per game.

Don't forget about the six year age gap. Aaron Gordon already has 5000 minutes under his belt at age 21. Faried had 0 at the same age.

Faried is better at his far more specialized role, but Gordon is the better basketball player overall with far more potential for greatness.

Don't forget you'll be paying 18M a year to AG after this coming year if you want to keep him. That's a lot for potential.
The "specialized" role of Faried is all we asked of AG this season. And Faried's role is based on Gallanari also at the PF. That "specialized" role also has Faried with a 20+ PER.

And son, I'm 45 I've never even seen NBA2K. While your worried about player vs. player, I'm looking at what this could mean for the whole roster.

[ralphie9898]

R u mad?

Ag is better than those mid lottery pick (tbh I wouldn't consider it unless it s the #1 pick)

Would you trade #25 & 35 for 13?? I think everyone does that.

Would you trade Faried for AG? As Player vs. Player, almost 100% would not. But, as Ralphie suggests some of this is based on potential.
Would you rather have AG at 20M or Faried at 12M?
That 8M a year could be handy while constructing a WHOLE roster.
Of course this is betting on AG not getting significantly better. But, Faried could give us more than what AG did this last year, and that is proven.

Green font?

Are you seriously talking about trading ag for faried?

I think it is more about trading Gordon for the 13th pick. Which along with our late first is close to fair value. But I would rather just keep Gordon as Collins may not be there at 13 and even if he does I still stick with AG.

[ralphie9898]

What about trading Payton, Mario, watson, Zimmerman for Danny green, Kyle anderson, and dejounte Murray. Helps give them some cap room to pursue Paul.

Allows us to get a 3 and d guy and 2 promising young guys



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Yeah no thanks. Green is a solid player but he doesn't help us that much even though he fills a hole at SF. The other two are prospects that are in a similar position to Hezonja. Payton has more value than that by himself and would rather look for a trade where we include Payton with one our bigger salaries and get some future cap relief as well as a pick or young prospect. But I have to say no to that one.

[yoyojw17]

What about trading Payton, Mario, watson, Zimmerman for Danny green, Kyle anderson, and dejounte Murray. Helps give them some cap room to pursue Paul.

Allows us to get a 3 and d guy and 2 promising young guys

I feel like the Spurs would instantly turn Payton and Mario into players ten times better than Anderson and Murray. Payton is already better than both, and the Spurs could probably get Mario to tap into his potential.

I'm a big Anderson fan, but I wouldn't want to be gifting San Antonio superior players just to get him. I like your thinking though.

Exactly what i was about to type. And we'll sulk as a trio of payton, hezonja and leonard become their cornerstones. lol

[Bensational]

I don't know why, but I've got a gut feeling that we look to trade up to either the 4 or the 3.

I reckon it will end up being with Philly for Josh Jackson at #3, if he's still there. What's involved in the deal, I've got no idea. Maybe 6 + Fournier/Ross?

***EDIT - lol, moments after I type this, news spreads that Boston is considering trading down from 1 to 3. so much for a gut feeling.

[eyriq]

I don't know why, but I've got a gut feeling that we look to trade up to either the 4 or the 3.

I reckon it will end up being with Philly for Josh Jackson at #3, if he's still there. What's involved in the deal, I've got no idea. Maybe 6 + Fournier/Ross?

***EDIT - lol, moments after I type this, news spreads that Boston is considering trading down from 1 to 3. so much for a gut feeling.

I could see us interested in trading up as well, though the only team I see with an incentive to trade down would be Boston, as they are trying to win now. In that vein we've nothing close to value to move the needle there as they'd be looking for a star in exchange. For other top 5 teams, I can't imagine they'd be interested in veterans and instead be looking at getting Gordon and/or Payton in return along with the #6. Perhaps we are willing to do such a trade since new management didn't draft those guys, but me personally I want no part in that sort of move. If we could move up into the top 3 for #6 and a future 1st plus whatever else (say #25), I could see that happening.

[ralphie9898]

I don't know why, but I've got a gut feeling that we look to trade up to either the 4 or the 3.

I reckon it will end up being with Philly for Josh Jackson at #3, if he's still there. What's involved in the deal, I've got no idea. Maybe 6 + Fournier/Ross?

***EDIT - lol, moments after I type this, news spreads that Boston is considering trading down from 1 to 3. so much for a gut feeling.

I could see us interested in trading up as well, though the only team I see with an incentive to trade down would be Boston, as they are trying to win now. In that vein we've nothing close to value to move the needle there as they'd be looking for a star in exchange. For other top 5 teams, I can't imagine they'd be interested in veterans and instead be looking at getting Gordon and/or Payton in return along with the #6. Perhaps we are willing to do such a trade since new management didn't draft those guys, but me personally I want no part in that sort of move. If we could move up into the top 3 for #6 and a future 1st plus whatever else (say #25), I could see that happening.

yeah no thanks to moving up and giving up more than the 6th pick. Philly and Boston are talking deal so that rules them out and I don't see LA moving or anyone else with those teams needing PGs probably not going to allow us to get ahead of them. I would rather stay as the player at 6 is similar to what you would get at 4 or 5. And I am certainly not going to give up next years first as I expect it to be high in the lottery and next years class is looking to be just as good as this one.