2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread IV

Chris76 · Post #1321 » by **Chris76** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:28 am

cksdayoff wrote:i want dsj

DSJ, Fox, and Monk are really good prospects. Hopefully, we can get another pick to grab one.

Isaac/jackson and DSJ would be great!

freshie2 · Post #1322 » by **freshie2** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 1:32 am

Chris76 wrote:
cksdayoff wrote:i want dsj

DSJ, Fox, and Monk are really good prospects. Hopefully, we can get another pick to grab one.

Isaac/jackson and DSJ would be great!

DSJ is such a wildcard. Would be great to get him as a second first round pick, but wouldn't be too excited if he's the pick at 3.

76ciology · Post #1323 » by **76ciology** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:27 am

[Woj Podcast] "Josh Jackson really has moved himself into consideration a little bit at #1".

Says that Jackson is in play every where in the top five, two GMs in the top 6 told him they think he's maybe the best player in the draft over Fultz, Lakers are super torn on him and Ball internally, and that the Celtics really like him but he didn't work out for them though there's still time for that to happen.

Starts at 55 min or so

Kobblehead · Post #1324 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:29 am

Ball or Jackson at #3 versus Isaac and Collins at #5 and #10 is a tough choice for me.

JojoSlimbiid · Post #1325 » by **JojoSlimbiid** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:30 am

I hope if we do trade the pick it's during draft night while we're on the clock. If Ainge goes full I'm the smartest guy in the room and the Lakers don't capitalize on it, we will end up in the dream scenario somehow getting the best player/best fit. Trust the process.

Mik317 · Post #1326 » by **Mik317** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:37 am

Carney couldn't dribble and wasn't great defensively.

51X3RF4N · Post #1327 » by **51X3RF4N** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:38 am

If you could have Isaac and Mitchell, or just one or Jackson/Ball/Fultz...

What do you do?

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Unbreakable99 · Post #1328 » by **Unbreakable99** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:43 am

Kobblehead wrote:Ball or Jackson at #3 versus Isaac and Collins at #5 and #10 is a tough choice for me.

You don't have to worry about that. Even if we do trade for 5 and 10 we won't get Isaac and Collins. BC is not taking a 4 and a 5. He already talked about positional balance. He's not going to draft two more front court players.

LloydFree · Post #1329 » by **LloydFree** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 2:59 am

76ciology wrote:[Woj Podcast] "Josh Jackson really has moved himself into consideration a little bit at #1".

Says that Jackson is in play every where in the top five, two GMs in the top 6 told him they think he's maybe the best player in the draft over Fultz, Lakers are super torn on him and Ball internally, and that the Celtics really like him but he didn't work out for them though there's still time for that to happen.

Starts at 55 min or so

He's not "maybe" better than Fultz. He's better than Fultz period.

Kobblehead · Post #1330 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:13 am

Unbreakable99 wrote:You don't have to worry about that. Even if we do trade for 5 and 10 we won't get Isaac and Collins. BC is not taking a 4 and a 5. He already talked about positional balance. He's not going to draft two more front court players.

If I was GM, I would take the best guys on my board and then be aggressive in moving the pieces I felt I just upgraded.

I wouldn't let things stew or mull, I would immediately move Saric and Holmes to make room for the superior additions of Isaac and Collins.

GopherIt! · Post #1331 » by **GopherIt!** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:27 am

51X3RF4N wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:

Read on Twitter

Please let this trade happen.

I mean, it makes too much sense for both squads to not happen. My guess is Okafor goes with #3. Also makes sense to add him to the deal.

I could see:

1. Fultz
2. Ball or Jackson
3. Fox
4. Ball or Jackson
5. Monk to Philly
6. Isaac
7. Mark
8. DSJ

If Tatum is sitting there at 9, and you've got 10....do you try to use a bunch of 2nds to try to get that pick from Dallas, now that you've made friends by letting them steal Noel?

Walking away from the draft with Monk and Tatum minus Okafor, I would be pretty happy.

If Tatum somehow falls to seven, Minny is picking him. DSJ, Frank and Collins are likely ahead of Lauri too.

JoelNoel · Post #1332 » by **JoelNoel** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:39 am

Kobblehead wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:You don't have to worry about that. Even if we do trade for 5 and 10 we won't get Isaac and Collins. BC is not taking a 4 and a 5. He already talked about positional balance. He's not going to draft two more front court players.

If I was GM, I would take the best guys on my board and then be aggressive in moving the pieces I felt I just upgraded.

I wouldn't let things stew or mull, I would immediately move Saric and Holmes to make room for the superior additions of Isaac and Collins.

If we draft two front court players at 5/10, BC should be fired.

51X3RF4N · Post #1333 » by **51X3RF4N** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:59 am

Read on Twitter

Whoa.

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LongLiveHinkie · Post #1334 » by **LongLiveHinkie** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:15 am

51X3RF4N wrote:

Read on Twitter

Whoa.

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They aren't reliable. They don't have any sources.

Sixersftw · Post #1335 » by **Sixersftw** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:25 am

Yeah, **** that.

Unbreakable99 · Post #1336 » by **Unbreakable99** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 4:56 am

Kobblehead wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:You don't have to worry about that. Even if we do trade for 5 and 10 we won't get Isaac and Collins. BC is not taking a 4 and a 5. He already talked about positional balance. He's not going to draft two more front court players.

If I was GM, I would take the best guys on my board and then be aggressive in moving the pieces I felt I just upgraded.

I wouldn't let things stew or mull, I would immediately move Saric and Holmes to make room for the superior additions of Isaac and Collins.

THat would be unwise imo. You csn the just keep drafting BPA and overlapping the players at the same position in the front court and not get any backcourt or wing players. That would be a misuse of resources. I would be ok with one front court player but not two. We need wings and guards. And then trying to trade Holmes and Saric might be tougher since teams know you're trying to dump them off. If you have no takers then you have two good players riding the bench.

the_process · Post #1337 » by **the_process** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:15 am

Unbreakable99 wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:You don't have to worry about that. Even if we do trade for 5 and 10 we won't get Isaac and Collins. BC is not taking a 4 and a 5. He already talked about positional balance. He's not going to draft two more front court players.

If I was GM, I would take the best guys on my board and then be aggressive in moving the pieces I felt I just upgraded.

I wouldn't let things stew or mull, I would immediately move Saric and Holmes to make room for the superior additions of Isaac and Collins.

THat would be unwise imo. You csn the just keep drafting BPA and overlapping the players at the same position in the front court and not get any backcourt or wing players. That would be a misuse of resources. I would be ok with one front court player but not two. We need wings and guards. And then trying to trade Holmes and Saric might be tougher since teams know you're trying to dump them off. If you have no takers then you have two good players riding the bench.

Collins would be a phenomenal contingency for Embiid. Isaac can play on the wing.

Unbreakable99 · Post #1338 » by **Unbreakable99** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:24 am

the_process wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:If I was GM, I would take the best guys on my board and then be aggressive in moving the pieces I felt I just upgraded.

I wouldn't let things stew or mull, I would immediately move Saric and Holmes to make room for the superior additions of Isaac and Collins.

THat would be unwise imo. You csn the just keep drafting BPA and overlapping the players at the same position in the front court and not get any backcourt or wing players. That would be a misuse of resources. I would be ok with one front court player but not two. We need wings and guards. And then trying to trade Holmes and Saric might be tougher since teams know you're trying to dump them off. If you have no takers then you have two good players riding the bench.

Collins would be a phenomenal contingency for Embiid. Isaac can play on the wing.

I'm not sure Isaac can play on the wing at a high level. His best position is PF.

PLO · Post #1339 » by **PLO** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:47 am

Unbreakable99 wrote:
the_process wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:
THat would be unwise imo. You csn the just keep drafting BPA and overlapping the players at the same position in the front court and not get any backcourt or wing players. That would be a misuse of resources. I would be ok with one front court player but not two. We need wings and guards. And then trying to trade Holmes and Saric might be tougher since teams know you're trying to dump them off. If you have no takers then you have two good players riding the bench.

Collins would be a phenomenal contingency for Embiid. Isaac can play on the wing.

I'm not sure Isaac can play on the wing at a high level. His best position is PF.

Despite writing earlier today that Isaac was a wing I agree - he will be able to guard a number of positions though. He's a PF in an attacking sense - if his shooting translates that should stop him from being a negative on that end while the rest of his game develops.

LordCovington33 · Post #1340 » by **LordCovington33** » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:49 am

51X3RF4N wrote:

Read on Twitter

Whoa.

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Russell is not worth a #3 pick. Other assets would have to be included.