Hayward Undecided

[ConstableGeneva]

REPORT: I can confirm that Al Horford started following Gordon Hayward on Instagram about 21 hours ago. No other current Celtics player is following him (not even Isaiah Thomas). Not much activity on IG the past 24 apart from IT liking a Rudy Gay post, James Young working out with Athletic Gaines, and Terry Rozier liking a bunch of pics of women in bikinis.

BONUS: Anthony Davis is following Isaiah Thomas, not that it means anything lol.

[SmartWentCrazy]

REPORT: I can confirm that Al Horford started following Gordon Hayward on Instagram about 21 hours ago. No other current Celtics player is following him (not even Isaiah Thomas). Not much activity on IG the past 24 apart from IT liking a Rudy Gay post, James Young working out with Athletic Gaines, and Terry Rozier liking a bunch of pics of women in bikinis.

BONUS: Anthony Davis is following Isaiah Thomas, not that it means anything lol.

IT did follow, then he unfollowed after Chris Forsberg outted him

[Green_teamer]

REPORT: I can confirm that Al Horford started following Gordon Hayward on Instagram about 21 hours ago. No other current Celtics player is following him (not even Isaiah Thomas). Not much activity on IG the past 24 apart from IT liking a Rudy Gay post, James Young working out with Athletic Gaines, and Terry Rozier liking a bunch of pics of women in bikinis.

BONUS: Anthony Davis is following Isaiah Thomas, not that it means anything lol.

Yeah IT stopped following once it was widely reported but his wife is still following Haywards Wife..

[ConstableGeneva]

REPORT: I can confirm that Al Horford started following Gordon Hayward on Instagram about 21 hours ago. No other current Celtics player is following him (not even Isaiah Thomas). Not much activity on IG the past 24 apart from IT liking a Rudy Gay post, James Young working out with Athletic Gaines, and Terry Rozier liking a bunch of pics of women in bikinis.

BONUS: Anthony Davis is following Isaiah Thomas, not that it means anything lol.

IT did follow, then he unfollowed after Chris Forsberg outted him

Yes. That is true. I apologize for my incomplete and inaccurate reporting. Thanks for the clarification.

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On the Basketball analogy podcast ESPN's Tim McMahon(who's their reporter for the Jazz) said Gordon Hayward "has significant concerns about playing with Isaiah Thomas".

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[CeltsfaninDC]

Hayward is still an instance of growing into his contact. Most of his elevation in the eyes of the National media was not until this year.

Hayward worked out at the price but when the cap was smaller in 2012 you could not always throw max money at potential. There are lots of instances in that time frame of really bad contracts.

Smart players understand that. I am by no means in Hayward's inner circle but I have spoken with him at several season ticket holder events and he really understands the business.

Like I said before he may sign with the Celtics. I just wish we could get to July and get it over with.

You're right he wasn't an unequivocal max guy, but a team in a larger market would have paid him immediately.

I actually think Utah's set up pretty well if Hayward leaves. Gobert is under contract, and if Hill goes too, you have 25 million in cap room. You can go after Gallo, or try to split the money on Rudy Gay and Jeff Teague. Or, you know, try to do something like Favors for Eric Bledsoe. There are ways to tread water, break even.

Yes, we are set up for an eternal treadmill. Why don't you guys go after Gallo, Rudy Gay and Jeff teague instead of Hayward and just leave him to us? They are good for you to "tread water, break even"...

All right, alright, alright......
treadmill? Yeah, no. This is a team that earned the #1 seed this year and are poised to get even better. Sorry, but the Jazz are the 5th or 6th team in the West and have little chance to improve in the offseason. At best they remain where they are if they keep H20 and will get significantly worse when they lose him and Hill.

[Green_teamer]

You're right he wasn't an unequivocal max guy, but a team in a larger market would have paid him immediately.

I actually think Utah's set up pretty well if Hayward leaves. Gobert is under contract, and if Hill goes too, you have 25 million in cap room. You can go after Gallo, or try to split the money on Rudy Gay and Jeff Teague. Or, you know, try to do something like Favors for Eric Bledsoe. There are ways to tread water, break even.

Yes, we are set up for an eternal treadmill. Why don't you guys go after Gallo, Rudy Gay and Jeff teague instead of Hayward and just leave him to us? They are good for you to "tread water, break even"...

All right, alright, alright......
treadmill? Yeah, no. This is a team that earned the #1 seed this year and are poised to get even better. Sorry, but the Jazz are the 5th or 6th team in the West and have little chance to improve in the offseason. At best they remain where they are if they keep H20 and will get significantly worse when they lose him and Hill.

He's a jazz fan. He's saying if Hayward leaves they're set up for an eternal treadmill not Boston.

[Fidel Sarcasmo]

On the Basketball analogy podcast ESPN's Tim McMahon(who's their reporter for the Jazz) said Gordon Hayward "has significant concerns about playing with Isaiah Thomas".

Read on Twitter

I call BS. Golden State has 4 guys that can average 20-25 per game and they're without any concern. This new era isn't going to allow teams to compete for a ring unless allstars put away their egos. Carmelo Anthony is the only player I can see that would have a concern over another player outshining him on a team. And he no longer cares about himself being the man cause he knows he effed up with his "Me before You" mindset being the cause for his career long mediocrity. Now all of a sudden because he out of his prime does he want to join a super team. He deserves what he got himself into. I can't wrap my head around another player being concerned with IT.

[CeltsfaninDC]

Yes, we are set up for an eternal treadmill. Why don't you guys go after Gallo, Rudy Gay and Jeff teague instead of Hayward and just leave him to us? They are good for you to "tread water, break even"...

All right, alright, alright......
treadmill? Yeah, no. This is a team that earned the #1 seed this year and are poised to get even better. Sorry, but the Jazz are the 5th or 6th team in the West and have little chance to improve in the offseason. At best they remain where they are if they keep H20 and will get significantly worse when they lose him and Hill.

He's a jazz fan. He's saying if Hayward leaves they're set up for an eternal treadmill not Boston.

read it wrong...... thanks

[Green_teamer]

On the Basketball analogy podcast ESPN's Tim McMahon(who's their reporter for the Jazz) said Gordon Hayward "has significant concerns about playing with Isaiah Thomas".

Read on Twitter

I call BS. Golden State has 4 guys that can average 20-25 per game and they're without any concern. This new era isn't going to allow teams to compete for a ring unless allstars put away their egos. Carmelo Anthony is the only player I can see that would have a concern over another player outshining him on a team. And he no longer cares about himself being the man cause he knows he effed up with his "Me before You" mindset being the cause for his career long mediocrity. Now all of a sudden because he out of his prime does he want to join a super team. He deserves what he got himself into. I can't wrap my head around another player being concerned with IT.

The article does state that this isn't coming from Haywards camp and that it's just a rumor. At the same time if he's worried about how many touches he's going to get a game instead of winning I'm not sure he'd be a good fit here. But like I said no evidence this is coming from Hayward himself so I don't believe it.

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All right, alright, alright......
treadmill? Yeah, no. This is a team that earned the #1 seed this year and are poised to get even better. Sorry, but the Jazz are the 5th or 6th team in the West and have little chance to improve in the offseason. At best they remain where they are if they keep H20 and will get significantly worse when they lose him and Hill.

The Jazz with Hayward and Hill and everybody back healthy is probably the second or third best team in the West next year(depending on moves in the off-season). Also, I wasn't talking about Boston being a treadmill team. I was talking about the Jazz without Hayward and Hill. Gobert by himself is good enough to not allow us to get high pick in the draft and we don't really have any reasonable way to replace Hayward and Hill to become a contender, so yeah... if we lose GH&GH we are probably heading towards years of mediocrity.

[Fencer reregistered]

REPORT: I can confirm that Al Horford started following Gordon Hayward on Instagram about 21 hours ago. No other current Celtics player is following him (not even Isaiah Thomas). Not much activity on IG the past 24 apart from IT liking a Rudy Gay post, James Young working out with Athletic Gaines, and Terry Rozier liking a bunch of pics of women in bikinis.

BONUS: Anthony Davis is following Isaiah Thomas, not that it means anything lol.

Yeah IT stopped following once it was widely reported but his wife is still following Haywards Wife..

Any of that can be explained by the players hearing the same rumors we do.

[SmartWentCrazy]

On the Basketball analogy podcast ESPN's Tim McMahon(who's their reporter for the Jazz) said Gordon Hayward "has significant concerns about playing with Isaiah Thomas".

Read on Twitter

So you really believe Hayward is a ball hog and wants the ball in his hands more than anyone else?

Also, IT played off the ball a ton in the playoffs. Not worried-- sounds like you guys are though.

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On the Basketball analogy podcast ESPN's Tim McMahon(who's their reporter for the Jazz) said Gordon Hayward "has significant concerns about playing with Isaiah Thomas".

Read on Twitter

So you really believe Hayward is a ball hog and wants the ball in his hands more than anyone else?

Also, IT played off the ball a ton in the playoffs. Not worried-- sounds like you guys are though.

I don't know, it's just a report... To me this doesn't say Hayward is a ballhog, it says Hayward doesn't want to play with one. He played with one in Trey Burke for 2(3) years and I can say he didn't like it much.

And of course we are worried. You have to be insane not be worried when your franchise player is set to take meetings with other teams.

[Fidel Sarcasmo]

On the Basketball analogy podcast ESPN's Tim McMahon(who's their reporter for the Jazz) said Gordon Hayward "has significant concerns about playing with Isaiah Thomas".

Read on Twitter

So you really believe Hayward is a ball hog and wants the ball in his hands more than anyone else?

Also, IT played off the ball a ton in the playoffs. Not worried-- sounds like you guys are though.

I don't know, it's just a report... To me this doesn't say Hayward is a ballhog, it says Hayward doesn't want to play with one. He played with one in Trey Burke for 2(3) years and I can say he didn't like it much.

And of course we are worried. You have to be insane not be worried when your franchise player is set to take meetings with other teams.

IT is not a ball hog. He's super efficient within the offense. He goes to the line a ton. Our offense relies on making the right basketball play. It's about movement, passing, finding the open man. However the play unfolds is how the team is trained to respond. We don't have any actual offense creators besides IT presently. we need another guy who can create offense when needed to take pressure off the team in close games. Defenders focus on IT all the time in a close game in the 4th quarter. Another legitimate threat is what's sorely needed. IT doesn't need to score 30ppg next year if he's scoring 22 and we win 60 next year n hit the finals, he'd be the first to tell you he's happier.

[Homerclease]

So you really believe Hayward is a ball hog and wants the ball in his hands more than anyone else?

Also, IT played off the ball a ton in the playoffs. Not worried-- sounds like you guys are though.

I don't know, it's just a report... To me this doesn't say Hayward is a ballhog, it says Hayward doesn't want to play with one. He played with one in Trey Burke for 2(3) years and I can say he didn't like it much.

And of course we are worried. You have to be insane not be worried when your franchise player is set to take meetings with other teams.

IT is not a ball hog. He's super efficient within the offense. He goes to the line a ton. Our offense relies on making the right basketball play. It's about movement, passing, finding the open man. However the play unfolds is how the team is trained to respond. We don't have any actual offense creators besides IT presently. we need another guy who can create offense when needed to take pressure off the team in close games. Defenders focus on IT all the time in a close game in the 4th quarter. Another legitimate threat is what's sorely needed. IT doesn't need to score 30ppg next year if he's scoring 22 and we win 60 next year n hit the finals, he'd be the first to tell you he's happier.

So much this.

[Andrew McCeltic]

Hayward is still an instance of growing into his contact. Most of his elevation in the eyes of the National media was not until this year.

Hayward worked out at the price but when the cap was smaller in 2012 you could not always throw max money at potential. There are lots of instances in that time frame of really bad contracts.

Smart players understand that. I am by no means in Hayward's inner circle but I have spoken with him at several season ticket holder events and he really understands the business.

Like I said before he may sign with the Celtics. I just wish we could get to July and get it over with.

You're right he wasn't an unequivocal max guy, but a team in a larger market would have paid him immediately.

I actually think Utah's set up pretty well if Hayward leaves. Gobert is under contract, and if Hill goes too, you have 25 million in cap room. You can go after Gallo, or try to split the money on Rudy Gay and Jeff Teague. Or, you know, try to do something like Favors for Eric Bledsoe. There are ways to tread water, break even.

Yes, we are set up for an eternal treadmill. Why don't you guys go after Gallo, Rudy Gay and Jeff teague instead of Hayward and just leave him to us? They are good for you to "tread water, break even"...

I'd be ok with Boston settling for Gallinari. But it sounds like we could be the belle of the ball this July. Not trying to troll the Jazz - we went through this with Rondo, and it was tricky, tough. I was trying to complement your management - if Hayward goes east, I can see the roster potentially recovering really quickly.

[Froob]

REPORT: I can confirm that Al Horford started following Gordon Hayward on Instagram about 21 hours ago. No other current Celtics player is following him (not even Isaiah Thomas). Not much activity on IG the past 24 apart from IT liking a Rudy Gay post, James Young working out with Athletic Gaines, and Terry Rozier liking a bunch of pics of women in bikinis.

BONUS: Anthony Davis is following Isaiah Thomas, not that it means anything lol.

I hear IT is following Jay Leno, is he trying to ice Leno?

[Andrew McCeltic]

I don't know, it's just a report... To me this doesn't say Hayward is a ballhog, it says Hayward doesn't want to play with one. He played with one in Trey Burke for 2(3) years and I can say he didn't like it much.

And of course we are worried. You have to be insane not be worried when your franchise player is set to take meetings with other teams.

IT is not a ball hog. He's super efficient within the offense. He goes to the line a ton. Our offense relies on making the right basketball play. It's about movement, passing, finding the open man. However the play unfolds is how the team is trained to respond. We don't have any actual offense creators besides IT presently. we need another guy who can create offense when needed to take pressure off the team in close games. Defenders focus on IT all the time in a close game in the 4th quarter. Another legitimate threat is what's sorely needed. IT doesn't need to score 30ppg next year if he's scoring 22 and we win 60 next year n hit the finals, he'd be the first to tell you he's happier.

So much this.

If he wants us to trade for John Wall, I'm ok with it if we trade for John Wall.

[Froob]

I had a dream I posted a dick pic on this board and I'm relieved to find out it didn't actually happen.

Good thing, too.

Would get confusing if we had both a player and a poster nicknamed "The Little Guy".