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Cavs-Warriors

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Re: Cavs-Warriors 

Post#201 » by thesack12 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:27 pm

sc8581 wrote:
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And Pippen is only a year and a half younger than Harper, what's your point?

If Harper had help earlier in his career he would have been on better teams and would have a similar resume to Scottie.


The point is, you were trying to make an argument that Jordan had similar caliber help to what Lebron has had. Getting a 31 year old Ron Harper is not nearly on the same level as Lebron having Prime Wade, Prime Bosh, Prime Kyrie, Prime Love on his side.

And no man, you're mistaken about Harper. If he was as good as you claim he was, he would of had more accolades. Good players from bad teams make the all star team every year. Harps never even fluked his way into an all star selection due to other guys being hurt.


Prime Love is not very good, I think that's been proven time and time again. Accolades have always been based on team success, you occasionally get a stud on a bad team but a very good 2-way player on a franchise like the Clippers back then wasn't going to sniff anything.


Ron Harper's Clippers made the playoffs a couple of times. They weren't terrible teams.

Danny Manning made the all star team off those same Clipper teams.
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Re: Cavs-Warriors 

Post#202 » by hoophabit » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:51 pm

thesack12 wrote:
sc8581 wrote::P
thesack12 wrote:

So you're saying that Ron Harper was on the level of a:

7 time All star (1 MVP)
3 time 1st team All NBA
2 time 2nd team All NBA
2 time 3rd team All NBA
8 time 1st team All defensive
2 time 2nd team All defensive
1 Olympic Gold Medal as a member of the original Dream team
HOF'er
Named one of the 50 greatest players of all time

???

Ron Harper's distinguished resume brings an All Rookie 1st team award, and then..... NOTHING

By the way, the alleged "Scottie Pippen level talent" Ron Harper was 31 years old when he joined Chicago.


And Pippen is only a year and a half younger than Harper, what's your point?

If Harper had help earlier in his career he would have been on better teams and would have a similar resume to Scottie.


The point is, you were trying to make an argument that Jordan had similar caliber help to what Lebron has had. Getting a 31 year old Ron Harper is not nearly on the same level as Lebron having Prime Wade, Prime Bosh, Prime Kyrie, Prime Love on his side.

And no man, you're mistaken about Harper. If he was as good as you claim he was, he would of had more accolades. Good players from bad teams make the all star team every year. Harps never even fluked his way into an all star selection due to other guys being hurt.


I'm with SC on this one. Harper's career is very impressive. I watched him play and he was a serious talent. Who you get to play with is huge for a complementary player. Getting with a true "superstar" and winning some titles makes a big difference in terms of awards and perceptions.
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Re: Cavs-Warriors 

Post#203 » by In SVG We Trust » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:05 pm

Kyrie and Love never reached the Playoffs before playing with Bron. Jordan retired and the Bulls were still a top team. Prime Wade is a cheat argument because he started to decline with so many injuries and he lost a lot of athleticism the next year LeBron arrived to Miami.

LeBron is the player with most social pressure ever. I really wonder if Jordan could have been Jordan nowadays when every step you make wrong is condemned as hell.

And I love people bringing defenders who didn't defend Jordan. LeBron has faced a lot of better teams than Jordan, there isn't a debate there.

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