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2017 Lakers Draft Pick Discussion

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Who do the Lakers draft on June 22nd with the 2nd overall pick?

Poll ended at Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:11 pm

Lonzo Ball
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Josh Jackson
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Re: 2017 Lakers Draft Pick Discussion 

Post#1341 » by Sushisensei26 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 9:58 pm

Now we tradin'!!!!!!

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Post#1342 » by Michael Lucky » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:06 pm

I wonder what packages we are looking for with the number 2.

Time and Time again the FO is making it look like they aren't into Ball.
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Re: 2017 Lakers Draft Pick Discussion 

Post#1343 » by TyCobb » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:09 pm

No, that's your own personal twist Michael Lucky. :lol:

Wait till tomorrow when they visit Ball, and it's all of a sudden Lakers back on Ball train'!
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Post#1344 » by Michael Lucky » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:13 pm

TyCobb wrote:No, that's your own personal twist Michael Lucky. :lol:

Wait till tomorrow when they visit Ball, and it's all of a sudden Lakers back on Ball train'!

Yeah I know lol With the rumors all over the place, I'm starting to lean back in them drafting Ball at this point.
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Post#1345 » by TyCobb » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:17 pm

Michael Lucky wrote:
TyCobb wrote:No, that's your own personal twist Michael Lucky. :lol:

Wait till tomorrow when they visit Ball, and it's all of a sudden Lakers back on Ball train'!

Yeah I know lol With the rumors all over the place, I'm starting to lean back in them drafting Ball at this point.


:lol: It's these peoples jobs. Hearing the Lakers are taking Ball stories 36 days in a row is boring and doesn't produce traffic. Combine that with the 70+ other people covering Lonzo trying to come up with a Lakers-Lonzo story and you got all sorts of fabrications out there.
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Re: 2017 Lakers Draft Pick Discussion 

Post#1346 » by TheRealKaboom » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:20 pm

trevm37 wrote:Doesn't matter, DLO is not enough to get the #3 pick (his value you around the league is much lower than in these forums).

Lol. It's literally impossible for D'Angelo's value to be any lower than it is in these forums. Meanwhile back in reality, every team in the league called the FO to ask for him the minute they found out we had the 2nd pick.

The hate for Russell around these parts is mindboggling.
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Post#1347 » by Green_teamer » Thu Jun 15, 2017 10:28 pm

Edit: nevermind someone already posted the tweet here a couple pages back..thought it just happened. My bad
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Post#1348 » by AcecardZ » Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:20 pm

I want to DRuss to remain a Laker so I'm fine if other people think he sucks. He deserves at least one more year to show what he can do.
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Re: 2017 Lakers Draft Pick Discussion 

Post#1349 » by Penberthy » Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:35 pm

Slava wrote:
TyCobb wrote:Anybody know Pelton's projections?


1. Ball
2. Fultz
3. Issac
4. Smith
5. Collins
6. Jackson
7. Anunoby
8. Tatum
9. Markannen
10. Fox


Imagine if this is close to real, I wonder if Sac would do #2+deng for #5(Jackson) and #10(Markkanen)
Then by some miracle Minn or someone takes Moz off our hands for space
Clarkson for a 2018 1st
Randle for a 2018 1st

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WestbrookOrIT (32) Russell (16) 2018 1st
Russell (16) Jackson (32) 2018 1st
Ingram (32) JamesOrGeorge (16)
JamesOrGeorge (16) Markkanen (20) Nance (12)
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Re: 2017 Lakers Draft Pick Discussion 

Post#1350 » by Michael Lucky » Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:49 pm

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Fultz taking shots at Lonzo. lol
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Re: 2017 Lakers Draft Pick Discussion 

Post#1351 » by TyCobb » Thu Jun 15, 2017 11:51 pm

Heard Lonzo was going to respond with a shot of his own, but he passed it to a teammate with a higher percentage look instead.
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Re: 2017 Lakers Draft Pick Discussion 

Post#1352 » by Texas_Lakers » Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:00 am

Sushisensei26 wrote:Now we tradin'!!!!!!

I'm done.


Don't believe the hype, take it all this rumors with a grain of salt. Sites/sources are click-bait happy.
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Post#1354 » by taj2133 » Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:35 am

Josh Jackson has yet to workout for the Boston Celtics, but the possibility of him going to them at No. 1 has gained momentum. Markelle Fultz has widely been considered the probable first overall pick for several months. – via insider.espn.com
Draft, Josh Jackson, Markelle Fultz, Boston Celtics
Storyline: No. 1 pick
“I’ve picked Danny’s brain for years,” one GM said. “Jackson is an Ainge player all the way. Tough, athletic, long, versatile, elite motor. If he’s keeping the pick, Jackson just to me, far and away, is the most Celtics-type player for them to draft. From all my conversations with them, I’m convinced they’ll take Jackson No. 1.” – via insider.espn.com
Danny Ainge, Draft, Josh Jackson, Boston Celtics
“We like him a lot,” the Celtics source said about Jackson. “But we like several guys a lot. We’ve got a week to figure it out.” – via insider.espn.com
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Re: 2017 Lakers Draft Pick Discussion 

Post#1355 » by Michael Lucky » Fri Jun 16, 2017 12:45 am

Well i do prefer Tatum over Jackson or Fox.
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Post#1356 » by Pointgod » Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:01 am

Michael Lucky wrote:Well i do prefer Tatum over Jackson or Fox.


Why?
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Post#1357 » by snaquille oatmeal » Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:17 am

TyCobb wrote:No, that's your own personal twist Michael Lucky. :lol:

Wait till tomorrow when they visit Ball, and it's all of a sudden Lakers back Balls deep again'!

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Re: 2017 Lakers Draft Pick Discussion 

Post#1358 » by Michael Lucky » Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:24 am

Pointgod wrote:
Michael Lucky wrote:Well i do prefer Tatum over Jackson or Fox.


Why?

Can shoot (on and off the dribble), rebound, score at all three levels, can hit free throws. Fox can't score outside 10 feet nor can he really play make, Jackson can only score outside 10 feet if it's off the catch and shoot. While Jackson has good play making abilities it's not like a whole tier better than Tatum's. Tatum's defense doesn't project as good as the former two, but then again there are so many athletic players that are terrible regardless of their defensive potentials.
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Post#1359 » by jay51024 » Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:28 am

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Re: 2017 Lakers Draft Pick Discussion 

Post#1360 » by MelosSoreWrist » Fri Jun 16, 2017 1:46 am

Latest from Ford... Its basically whats been speculated on this thread but with "sources"

http://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/19641152/latest-nba-draft-intel-boston-celtics-los-angeles-lakers-lonzo-ball-josh-jackson-more

Celtics might pull a surprise at No. 1

Markelle Fultz has been atop my Big Board since version 2.0, and his only real challenger most of the year has been Lonzo Ball.

But Josh Jackson, who was No. 1 on Big Board 1.0, has emerged as an intriguing option for the Celtics and team president Danny Ainge (even though he canceled a workout with Boston this week, according to ESPN's Jeff Goodman and Marc Spears).
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Get ready for Markelle Fultz, Lonzo Ball and the 2017 draft, with analysis from Chad Ford and other ESPN experts.

"I've picked Danny's brain for years," one GM said. "Jackson is an Ainge player all the way. Tough, athletic, long, versatile, elite motor. If he's keeping the pick, Jackson just to me, far and away, is the most Celtics-type player for them to draft. From all my conversations with them, I'm convinced they'll take Jackson No. 1."

He's correct in that Jackson fits the prototypical Celtics mold. Rajon Rondo, Avery Bradley, Marcus Smart and Jaylen Brown all fit that description, and all were first-round selections by Boston (Rondo via trade).

Jackson has yet to work out for the Celtics, according to his agent, B.J. Armstrong, who said that Jackson has worked out twice for the Lakers and once for the 76ers. Jackson is also scheduled to work out for the Suns before the draft.

"We have great respect for Boston and Danny Ainge," Armstrong said. "That's a championship-caliber organization and Josh brings the things that I know Danny values. He can defend his position at an elite level. He can rebound for his position at an elite level and he can pass for his position at an elite level. All the championship-caliber teams are looking for players who can do those three things. And I know they want winners.

"We're in dialogue with Boston. We're very respectful of them. They have the No. 1 pick and can select whoever they choose. We just need to see how things play out over the next week."

While Armstrong declined to give specifics about why Jackson hasn't worked out there, other league sources believe that it's likely that Jackson's camp feels that both the Lakers and Sixers would give Jackson a larger role from day one.

A number of agents have expressed concerns that the Celtics might not have enough playing time for their clients to develop properly, given the depth and experience of their roster. (Ball also declined a workout with Boston.)

Fit is a question mark for Jackson as well, with both Jaylen Brown and Jae Crowder already on the roster.

Don't the Celtics need players with differing skill sets? Isn't Jackson a bit duplicative, especially given the arrival of Brown last year?

Another GM doesn't see it that way.

"Jackson will be better than all of those guys [at his position in Boston]," the GM said. "Danny's looking for a star, and I think Jackson has as much or more star potential than Fultz or Ball. Everyone on the Celtics is an asset. Danny can move them all. He'll take the player he likes the best. Period. He'll figure out fit in the summer."

What do the Celtics have to say about this? They're staying mum on whom they're taking No. 1, but a source says the franchise is strongly considering options other than Fultz and that Jackson is one of those options.

"We like him a lot," the Celtics source said. "But we like several guys a lot. We've got a week to figure it out."

If Jackson doesn't work out for Boston, would that scare the Celtics away? "Absolutely not," a Celtics source said. "That's true for Josh and Lonzo and anyone else. We've done our homework. The workouts are nice, but they're not mandatory. We'll select the best player."


Will the Lakers trade the No. 2 pick?

It's a big week in L.A. Fultz held his first workout with the Lakers on Thursday, while Ball will work out for the team a second time on Friday. The session will take place at an undisclosed location where Ball can demonstrate his work ethic, a source told ESPN's Ramona Shelburne. Additionally, the Lakers are working toward finalizing a first workout with Jayson Tatum this weekend.

Add future workouts from Jackson and De'Aaron Fox to that equation, and we'll have a good idea whom the Lakers are looking to draft with the No. 2 pick. Sources say that if the Lakers keep their current pick, it's down to those five players.

The top candidates, according to sources, are Fultz, Jackson and Ball, and the latter still appears to be the team's favorite.

But another scenario has piqued the franchise's interest. The Lakers held internal discussions about trading back two spots to No. 4 if the Suns were to offer them a 2018 first-round pick. The Suns hold their own 2018 pick (which currently projects to be a high lottery pick) as well as the rights to the Miami Heat's 2018 pick. The latter pick is top-seven-protected in 2018 but unprotected in 2019.

The Lakers believe that Ball or Jackson might be available at the No. 4 spot. If not, the Lakers are still very high on Fox and Tatum, and believe that securing an additional prospect might be worth dropping two spots in the draft.

The Kings are another potential trade partner for the Lakers. They hold the rights to the fifth and 10th picks and have discussed moving up in this year's draft.

At No. 5, the Lakers might still be able to choose between Fox and Tatum (and potentially Ball), or just take the best prospect who's available. And at No. 10, other strong prospects -- such as Malik Monk, Dennis Smith, Frank Ntilikina, Lauri Markkanen, Kennard and/or Zach Collins -- would likely still be on the board. (It should be noted that the Lakers are not considering taking Smith with the No. 2 pick.)

The Lakers are looking for strong shooters, and several of the aforementioned prospects would help the franchise fill that void.

"The draft is so deep, it might be worth dropping out of the top two to get a couple of potential All-Stars," one rival GM said. "I'm not sure the gap between guys like Fox, Tatum and [Jonathan] Isaac is big enough to stop the Lakers from pulling the trigger. They'd be able to address two needs at really affordable contracts."

From what I'm hearing, it sounds like the Lakers are unwilling to trade their pick if it means dropping out of the top five spots in the draft. They want to get at least one young player with star potential out of this draft, and feel confident they can acquire a veteran star during free agency in 2018.
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