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2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread IV

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Re: 2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread IV 

Post#1681 » by XtremeDunkz » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:30 pm

Just think about how Fultz will manhandle Isiah every time we play Boston.
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Post#1682 » by HankTheTank » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:32 pm

LloydFree wrote:I went into the lottery thinking, as long as Boston doesn't get Josh Jackson I'll be fine. Now not only do they get him, but they get one of our picks for their trouble... Un-be-lievable.


Imagine Boston adds Jackson+Bamba+Robert Williams or Doncic next year.

Just praying the cost is not too high
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Post#1683 » by SelfishPlayer » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:34 pm

XtremeDunkz wrote:Just think about how Fultz will manhandle Isiah every time we play Boston.


Relax, Isaiah will easily dominate Fultz. Fultz is slow and totally disinterested in sustaining a defensive posture.
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Post#1684 » by MR28 » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:39 pm

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XtremeDunkz wrote:Just think about how Fultz will manhandle Isiah every time we play Boston.


Relax, Isaiah will easily dominate Fultz. Fultz is slow and totally disinterested in sustaining a defensive posture.


Everyone is disinterested in hearing all your pessimistic garbage.
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Re: 2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread IV 

Post#1685 » by LloydFree » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:39 pm

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LloydFree wrote:I went into the lottery thinking, as long as Boston doesn't get Josh Jackson I'll be fine. Now not only do they get him, but they get one of our picks for their trouble... Un-be-lievable.


Imagine Boston adds Jackson+Bamba+Robert Williams or Doncic next year.

Just praying the cost is not too high

Either way it's likely a loss. In NBA history, the team that trades up nearly always gets the lesser player. The only time I recall it working was Utah for Deron Williams.

The fact that Ainge is willing to trade out of the spot should be enough of an indication Fultz ain't ish. Nobody trades out of the #1spot for franchise players.
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Post#1686 » by SelfishPlayer » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:45 pm

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SelfishPlayer wrote:
XtremeDunkz wrote:Just think about how Fultz will manhandle Isiah every time we play Boston.


Relax, Isaiah will easily dominate Fultz. Fultz is slow and totally disinterested in sustaining a defensive posture.


Everyone is disinterested in hearing all your pessimistic garbage.


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Post#1687 » by MR28 » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:46 pm

SelfishPlayer wrote:
MR28 wrote:
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Relax, Isaiah will easily dominate Fultz. Fultz is slow and totally disinterested in sustaining a defensive posture.


Everyone is disinterested in hearing all your pessimistic garbage.


Hi Bryan!



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Post#1688 » by agiaco » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:47 pm

1 future first and I'll do it. Would be an awesome trio of players
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Post#1689 » by SelfishPlayer » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:48 pm

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Post#1690 » by Kobblehead » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:49 pm

agiaco wrote:1 future first and I'll do it. Would be an awesome trio of players

On paper. Each is a 30% usage player. Let's see if we can run any semblance of an offensive scheme with all that ball dominance.
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Post#1691 » by JojoSlimbiid » Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:54 pm

cksdayoff wrote:CHAMPIONSHIP IN PHILLY.

embiid Simmons fultz

alpha talent on all three levels. holy shttttt


Holy....****. You and me have been beating the drum for awhile now even during the season and it actually happen. If it's really just for our future first next year big f#$%ing win. We aren't playing.
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Post#1692 » by cksdayoff » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:02 pm

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cksdayoff wrote:CHAMPIONSHIP IN PHILLY.

embiid Simmons fultz

alpha talent on all three levels. holy shttttt


Holy....****. You and me have been beating the drum for awhile now even during the season and it actually happen. If it's really just for our future first next year big f#$%ing win. We aren't playing.


I'm trying really hard to not get ahead of myself here. Lakers are also reportedly in love with him too so I'll believe it when I see it. but damn we're close to nabbing this kid.
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Post#1693 » by Sixersftw » Fri Jun 16, 2017 11:06 pm

cksdayoff wrote:
JojoSlimbiid wrote:
cksdayoff wrote:CHAMPIONSHIP IN PHILLY.

embiid Simmons fultz

alpha talent on all three levels. holy shttttt


Holy....****. You and me have been beating the drum for awhile now even during the season and it actually happen. If it's really just for our future first next year big f#$%ing win. We aren't playing.


I'm trying really hard to not get ahead of myself here. Lakers are also reportedly in love with him too so I'll believe it when I see it. but damn we're close to nabbing this kid.


Finish the deal, wrap his legs in bubble wrap till October.
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Post#1694 » by freshie2 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:13 am

Any news on the deal with Sacramento for 5 and 10?
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Post#1695 » by dkj5061 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:13 am

Kobblehead wrote:
agiaco wrote:1 future first and I'll do it. Would be an awesome trio of players

On paper. Each is a 30% usage player. Let's see if we can run any semblance of an offensive scheme with all that ball dominance.


Warriors managed just fine with 3 guys at 25% plus. It's more about ball movement, which there should be plenty of ideally in a lineup with Simmons and Fultz (and Embiid, who flashed some passing at times). RoCo will fit in nicely as a low usage spot up shooter. What kind of player the 5th starter is will be key to our future success. Ideally, another 3 and D stud like RoCo.
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Post#1696 » by agiaco » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:19 am

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Kobblehead wrote:
agiaco wrote:1 future first and I'll do it. Would be an awesome trio of players

On paper. Each is a 30% usage player. Let's see if we can run any semblance of an offensive scheme with all that ball dominance.


Warriors managed just fine with 3 guys at 25% plus. It's more about ball movement, which there should be plenty of ideally in a lineup with Simmons and Fultz (and Embiid, who flashed some passing at times). RoCo will fit in nicely as a low usage spot up shooter. What kind of player the 5th starter is will be key to our future success. Ideally, another 3 and D stud like RoCo.


Agree on that. The best teams have at least 3 guys that are all high usage. Championship contenders simply need that. It's about making them fit and utilizing their skill sets best. Now we would have a bonafide backcourt scorer, a dominant, versatile big man and an elite playmaker/passer with a lot of other role players and potential for 1-2 free agents to round it out.
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Post#1697 » by Unbreakable99 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:29 am

LloydFree wrote:I went into the lottery thinking, as long as Boston doesn't get Josh Jackson I'll be fine. Now not only do they get him, but they get one of our picks for their trouble... Un-be-lievable.


For real. The one player I didn't want them to get was Jackson. Get ready for Jackson to get the defensive assignment to guard Simmons and shutting him down and for Bradley to guard Fultz shutting him down and stripping him. Fultz will look like an amateur trying to score on Bradley. Smh.
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Post#1698 » by freshie2 » Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:32 am

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LloydFree wrote:I went into the lottery thinking, as long as Boston doesn't get Josh Jackson I'll be fine. Now not only do they get him, but they get one of our picks for their trouble... Un-be-lievable.


For real. The one player I didn't want them to get was Jackson. Get ready for Jackson to get the defensive assignment to guard Simmons and shutting him down and for Bradley to guard Fultz shutting him down and stripping him. Fultz will look like an amateur trying to score on Bradley. Smh.


Simmons is a different level PF than Jackson flourished against in college...will be interesting to see what kind of defensive force he turns out to be.
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Post#1699 » by Arsenal » Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:16 am

Unbreakable99 wrote:
LloydFree wrote:I went into the lottery thinking, as long as Boston doesn't get Josh Jackson I'll be fine. Now not only do they get him, but they get one of our picks for their trouble... Un-be-lievable.


For real. The one player I didn't want them to get was Jackson. Get ready for Jackson to get the defensive assignment to guard Simmons and shutting him down and for Bradley to guard Fultz shutting him down and stripping him. Fultz will look like an amateur trying to score on Bradley. Smh.


I like Jackson also but he's not going to be this defensive stopper that everyone thinks. Ben Simmons will easily muscle him.
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Re: 2016-2017 College Basketball / '17 NBA Draft Thread IV 

Post#1700 » by Kobblehead » Sat Jun 17, 2017 2:29 am

Josh Jackson won't be defending 6'11" 250 pounders like Ben Simmons. That's a job for OG Anunoby.

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