Don't know how many of those players you've actually seen yet, but from what I saw the first 10-12 picks will be better than this one...bank on it. This draft, after the first 5 go it's all role players after that.magnumt wrote:DEEP3CL wrote:76ciology wrote:I'm comfortable giving up 3rd and Lakers 1st next season. I don't like 2018 draft in general and specially for Sixers.
I get that but the 2018 draft will be 10 times more talented than this one. It's players at every position, Ayton and Porter are early favorites for 1 and 2 but that could change over the course of the NCAA season.
No. It won't.
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SmartWentCrazy wrote:It's extremely unlikely that they end up in the top 3.They're probably better off trying to win and giving Philly the 8th pick than tanking and giving them the 4th.
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DEEP3CL wrote:Don't know how many of those players you've actually seen yet, but from what I saw the first 10-12 picks will be better than this one...bank on it. This draft, after the first 5 go it's all role players after that.magnumt wrote:DEEP3CL wrote:
I get that but the 2018 draft will be 10 times more talented than this one. It's players at every position, Ayton and Porter are early favorites for 1 and 2 but that could change over the course of the NCAA season.
No. It won't.
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Nah, Doncic will be 1.pick.
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Doubt it, you don't pass on a real 7 footer like Ayton that can do everything he can. He's going to kill at Arizona next season. Plus I don't trust Euro players to come over and have that effect, it's always an adjustment period for them especially when they're young like he is.Veyron wrote:DEEP3CL wrote:Don't know how many of those players you've actually seen yet, but from what I saw the first 10-12 picks will be better than this one...bank on it. This draft, after the first 5 go it's all role players after that.magnumt wrote:
No. It won't.
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Nah, Doncic will be 1.pick.
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SmartWentCrazy wrote:It's extremely unlikely that they end up in the top 3.They're probably better off trying to win and giving Philly the 8th pick than tanking and giving them the 4th.
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benef wrote:Should De'aaron Fox be taken over Lonzo Ball? I think he must at least be in serious consideration.
not really....
kulaz3000 wrote:raptor jesus wrote:OleSchool wrote:Fultz got this look like "why am I here"
Kinda the way he always looks. He's got some tantalizing ability, but there's a "casualness" to him on the court that's rather concerning imo. I wouldn't blame the Celtics for taking a more fiery player like Jackson instead.
You really can't factor how a person's demeanor is like to evaluate their talents, well perhaps some do, but they really shouldn't.
Derrick Rose was infamous of showing absolutely no emotions the majority of the time, and at one point he was one of the best players in the league. T-Mac used to have relaxed, don't give a f*** type of demeanor either, until he'd explode past you and dunk all over your grill.
D'Angelo Russell if he plays with more sense of urgency probably won't be frustating to watch. It's a shame because i like his skillset. i hope Russell this year become more focused.
shawn_hemp wrote: a guy who is far worse than Robert Covington in Brandon Ingram, and a guy who is no better than TJ McConnell or Tony Wroten in D'Angelo Russell.
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What's Boston's plan right now?
I actually like the trade for them, in terms of value and fit. I think you could have gotten away with Fultz playing the 6th man role for a year or two, but you eventually had to make a decision there, and I'm not sure Isiah would have commited to the Celtics knowing he would have eventually been traded, and as an expiring, I don't think Boston would have gotten good value for him. Simply put, the Celtics got unlucky, because the top prospect in this draft was a point guard. If this was any of the last two years with Simmons and Towns, i think they take their guy and don't look back. Once you realize a move had to be made, I like this in terms of value. I'm just really curious what the next step is. I think they can easily land butler (Bradley/Zeller/3rd/other picks) and sign Hayward/Griffin, while still having the assets to pull off another major trade (PG?)
I actually like the trade for them, in terms of value and fit. I think you could have gotten away with Fultz playing the 6th man role for a year or two, but you eventually had to make a decision there, and I'm not sure Isiah would have commited to the Celtics knowing he would have eventually been traded, and as an expiring, I don't think Boston would have gotten good value for him. Simply put, the Celtics got unlucky, because the top prospect in this draft was a point guard. If this was any of the last two years with Simmons and Towns, i think they take their guy and don't look back. Once you realize a move had to be made, I like this in terms of value. I'm just really curious what the next step is. I think they can easily land butler (Bradley/Zeller/3rd/other picks) and sign Hayward/Griffin, while still having the assets to pull off another major trade (PG?)
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Now i've seen it all.
Stephen A Smith, in all his infinite wisdom, suggested that Philly are trading up to take Josh Jackson #1 . I mean if they did Colangelo would be fired the next day.
Stephen A Smith, in all his infinite wisdom, suggested that Philly are trading up to take Josh Jackson #1 . I mean if they did Colangelo would be fired the next day.
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Spens1 wrote:Now i've seen it all.
Stephen A Smith, in all his infinite wisdom, suggested that Philly are trading up to take Josh Jackson #1 . I mean if they did Colangelo would be fired the next day.
You're more generous than I am, he'd be fired during the draft if I were in charge and he pulled a stunt like this.
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Spens1 wrote:Now i've seen it all.
Stephen A Smith, in all his infinite wisdom, suggested that Philly are trading up to take Josh Jackson #1 . I mean if they did Colangelo would be fired the next day.
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Cactus Jack wrote:Spens1 wrote:Now i've seen it all.
Stephen A Smith, in all his infinite wisdom, suggested that Philly are trading up to take Josh Jackson #1 . I mean if they did Colangelo would be fired the next day.
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magnumt wrote:Cactus Jack wrote:Spens1 wrote:Now i've seen it all.
Stephen A Smith, in all his infinite wisdom, suggested that Philly are trading up to take Josh Jackson #1 . I mean if they did Colangelo would be fired the next day.
Espn TMZ
SAS is a gimmick. Pretty much EVERYONE knows that.
Not even his fellow peers take him seriously.
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I don't disagree that Jackson should be the pick. He'll be better than both Fultz & Ball. But, like you say, it's all a gimmick.
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DEEP3CL wrote:Doubt it, you don't pass on a real 7 footer like Ayton that can do everything he can. He's going to kill at Arizona next season. Plus I don't trust Euro players to come over and have that effect, it's always an adjustment period for them especially when they're young like he is.Veyron wrote:DEEP3CL wrote:Don't know how many of those players you've actually seen yet, but from what I saw the first 10-12 picks will be better than this one...bank on it. This draft, after the first 5 go it's all role players after that.
Nah, Doncic will be 1.pick.
Doncic is going to enter the 2018 NBA draft as one of the best (if not the best) players in Europe. There has never been a 19 years old Euro prospect that come to the draft as the best PLAYER of Europe. The kid is special and already had a lot of leadership around him to make him understand how is to be a pro and a winner.
I guess you shouldn't pass on a 7 footer, even in today's NBA, but in 2018 the best player is Doncic. So it's a decision between 7 footer and best player. There's Anthony Davis and KAT but also Greg Oden, Thabeet, Olowakandi and Kwame Brown.
Thing is, Anthony Davis and KAT were not only the best projects, but also the best players. I could be wrong, but Doncic is the best player. You can say European leagues are not the same as NBA, but his competition is playing in college, not NBA.
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magnumt wrote:Cactus Jack wrote:Spens1 wrote:Now i've seen it all.
Stephen A Smith, in all his infinite wisdom, suggested that Philly are trading up to take Josh Jackson #1 . I mean if they did Colangelo would be fired the next day.
Espn TMZ
SAS is a gimmick. Pretty much EVERYONE knows that.
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DaGawd wrote:magnumt wrote:Cactus Jack wrote:Espn TMZ
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Umm, no.
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Philly with the first pick, congrats
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wow philly is going to be loaded. Celtics and sixers are going to be crazy good. imagine now if the celtics end up with the 1st next year or anther top 3
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Fultz=Superstar
Lonzo=Bust
Book. it.
Lonzo=Bust
Book. it.
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InsanityKills wrote:Fultz=Superstar
Lonzo=Bust
Book. it.
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KobeBryant24 wrote:InsanityKills wrote:Fultz=Superstar
Lonzo=Bust
Book. it.
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InsanityKills wrote:KobeBryant24 wrote:InsanityKills wrote:Fultz=Superstar
Lonzo=Bust
Book. it.
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KobeBryant24 wrote:InsanityKills wrote:KobeBryant24 wrote:
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