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Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz

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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1061 » by BigSleep333 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:08 am

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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1062 » by Simmons25 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:08 am

KrazySixersD wrote:Some of yall are legit dumb.. u acquire picks and assets to eventually use them to get a star.. having all those picks not ever turn into a star is useless. We acquired them, we got what almost every GM feels is going to be a star, myself included, and ur crying over THE POASIBIKITY of MAYBE getting a star later.

We win this trade. Sixers r title contenders in 2 years for the next 6 to 8 years and a surefire lock at the playoffs this year.

Oh ya, and we have **** tons of capspace. Stfu.. colangelo just finished the process for us


Exactly.

* Boston fans are currently tearing their hair out at losing out on Fultz
* The rest of the leagues fans jaws are wide open wondering what the hell Boston is doing and why would they gift their rival a potential championship team for the next 10 years.
* Half of Phillies fans are worried about whether the Lakers and Sacremento picks for players we don't even know exist yet are top 5 protected :lol: :lol:
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1063 » by CoreyGallagher » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:08 am

eagereyez wrote:A top and bottom protected LA pick or the unprotected Sacramento pick. I still think Ainge wins this trade in terms of pure value. He's giving himself two more shots at the top of the lottery. I'd bet that the LA pick conveys to Boston next year.

Then I think at worst that's what most at the very least expected when discussions began. We're not including the Kings' pick or our own 2021 pick, which is what was being reported earlier. A protection on the LA pick was something I was not expecting.
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1064 » by HotelVitale » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:09 am

76thBearCub wrote:Is it possible BC has pansed Ainge in front of everybody? Wtf is happening?

He got a #3 pick in a draft he thinks is 3 deep, and he got another likely top-5 pick for his trouble. This is a typical Ainge heist if he's right about the top 3 being roughly equal. Only looks good for us if Fultz is WAY better than Ball or Jackson (whoever goes at 3), and I'm not sure we should count on that. Good trade for us b/c/o fit, good trade for them because an extra top 5 pick is pretty rad value for moving down a couple slots.

HeadEast76 wrote:Not a good enough deal - unless the Kings pick transfer (which i'd guess is 65%+ likely) is protected also.

I'm not very high on Fultz but what leverage do you think we had here? We want the guy who's going to go #1, and we're not going to get it without ponying up a pretty nice asset. We clearly valued Fultz more highly than Ainge, so he was holding the position of strength there.
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Post#1065 » by LongLiveHinkie » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:09 am

Does anyone think we target different players now with our 2nd rounders since we got Fultz?

For example, if we had landed Jackson, they may have been more likely to take a shooter. Maybe they still do, but maybe they target different guys now.
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1066 » by Sixersftw » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:09 am

51X3RF4N wrote:Also, Sixers can still end up with picks #1 and #2 next year, although highly unlikely.

Where did we get the 2nd pick from? Can't win the lottery when you're the 5th seed.
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1067 » by Ericb5 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:10 am

eagereyez wrote:A top and bottom protected LA pick or the unprotected Sacramento pick. I still think Ainge wins this trade in terms of pure value. He's giving himself two more shots at the top of the lottery. I'd bet that the LA pick conveys to Boston next year. My hope is LA lands the #1 pick and Sac makes the playoffs in '19.


I agree that he still wins the trade on points, and this is because he seemingly has the same view of this draft that I do, which is that Jackson and Fultz are equal on talent. That means he is getting a player that fits them better, plus another high lottery pick.

This is a great trade from his perspective. The risk is on our side I think,


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Post#1068 » by eagereyez » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:10 am

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eagereyez wrote:A top and bottom protected LA pick or the unprotected Sacramento pick. I still think Ainge wins this trade in terms of pure value. He's giving himself two more shots at the top of the lottery. I'd bet that the LA pick conveys to Boston next year.

Then I think at worst that's what most at the very least expected when discussions began. We're not including the Kings' pick or our own 2021 pick, which is what was being reported earlier. A protection on the LA pick was something I was not expecting.

The best outcome for us is LA conveys a #1 pick and Sacramento makes the playoffs in '19, so that is what I am going to hope for. If LA gives Ainge the 2nd or 3rd pick in next year's draft then I'm gonna feel lightheaded.
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Post#1069 » by nitocobola » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:11 am

LongLiveHinkie wrote:Does anyone think we target different players now with our 2nd rounders since we got Fultz?

For example, if we had landed Jackson, they may have been more likely to take a shooter. Maybe they still do, but maybe they target different guys now.

We should take any potenial 3&d guy
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Post#1070 » by 51X3RF4N » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:11 am

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76thBearCub wrote:Is it possible BC has pansed Ainge in front of everybody? Wtf is happening?

He got a #3 pick in a draft he thinks is 3 deep, and he got another likely top-5 pick for his trouble. This is a typical Ainge heist if he's right about the top 3 being roughly equal. Only looks good for us if Fultz is WAY better than Ball or Jackson (whoever goes at 3), and I'm not sure we should count on that.

Good trade for us b/c/o fit, good trade for them because an extra top 5 pick is pretty rad value.

Except the Lakers pick might not convey, and the Kings might make big moves to become contenders over the course of 2 long seasons and offseasons. And then it's really dropping from Fultz to Jackson or Ball, and maybe only picking up a 2019 1st rounder in the teens.

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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1071 » by Syracuse 76ers » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:11 am

Amazing trade for the 76ers. Fultz will complement Ben perfectly and will be lethal against the common "drop" ball screen coverage played in todays NBA against the PnR. Fultz has the ability to stop on a dime and make his mid-range pullup which is an effective attack used verse drop ball screen coverage. In addition, Fultz also has the uncanny ability to "snake" pick and rolls and use his diverse skillset around the hoop to finish against the "dropped" big man defender. Fultz can finish with both hands and has a ton of different eurostep/spin moves that will free up his soft touch around the rim. I am watching a few of Fultz games with Washington- Honestly it is hard to judge him because of how bad Washington is and how crappy Romar is as a coach. They literally have no offensive concepts or spacing. Everything offensively must be created by the individual player because Romar has ZERO clue how to create closeouts and advantages for his players. In addition, teams would stunt hard on Fultz when he came out of the PnR because of how crappy some of the shooters were on Washington.....

Fultz fits in perfectly and adds a new lethal component out of the PnR with Joel Embiid. Joel needs to continue to improve his mobility and PnR understanding. If he can improve his mobility and roll harder out of the PnR, the Sixers will force defenders to tag Embiid on his roll and this will create closeouts and advatnages for our perimeter players. Especially if Ben Simmons is running the point who will zip passes out to the perimeter players that have their defenders tagging the roller. Embiid's ability to make threes is such a huge asset especially against the "Drop" coverage. Having a player that can pick and pop is the number one attack to use verse teams that play drop or level ball screen coverage. As a result, a lot of teams may have to switch early in the shot clock against the 76ers in the PnR and our insane talent should easily be able to take advantage of that down the road.... EXCITING TIMES SIXERS FANS! Oh and for the people that want to trade Okafor, he has literally zero value. Zero. Maybe negative.

If the Celtics were smart, they would take DSJ with the third pick. Three-level scorer with athleticism that has defensive potential. Trade IT while he is hot and try to attain a big out of him and/or scoop up Butler or Hayward. The Lakers pick will most likely convey for them next year and then they can get their big body center who is mobile enough to play out of the spread pick and roll which is what every team is starting to do with their 5-man.
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Post#1072 » by CoreyGallagher » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:12 am

Can somebody post that roided Fultz picture so I can get excited about it now?
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Post#1073 » by Sixerscan » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:12 am

LongLiveHinkie wrote:Does anyone think we target different players now with our 2nd rounders since we got Fultz?

For example, if we had landed Jackson, they may have been more likely to take a shooter. Maybe they still do, but maybe they target different guys now.

I think their ideal roster at this point is Fultz, Simmons, Embiid, Dario, a backup center, and 10 3 and D guys.
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Post#1074 » by Skates » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:13 am

Let's not forget that this deal never happens without the swap rights Hinkie wrung out of the Kings. 5 to 3 seems like a huge jump now.
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Post#1075 » by Chris76 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:15 am

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I think we already have 2 potentially transcendent talents in Embiid and Simmons. Most teams would never be lucky enough to even get one of those sort of guys.

Fultz doesn't have to be transcendent... he just needs to be a 3rd star for us to have Championship potential. Hell I don't care if he does nothing but shoots 3's like Klay... but I think Fultz has the potential to be very very good... he just doesn't need to a superstar for us to consider him not a bust. He compliments this team perfectly. I actually see a lot of Dwayne Wade in him.


yep he hasnt to be transcendent for the sixers to be successful. the point was, you dont sell the farm, which apparently isnt the case, for this kind of prospect.


I find Fultz upside and value is relative to team he lands. With Celts he won't be as good as if he's with the Sixers, not being the Alpha and with two impact players.


This is a great move to get Fultz. We went from getting Jackson (Iggy type) to Fultz (Harden type). Both are great prospects, but Fultz gives us a better fit with Simmons and Embiid. We needed perimeter shooting and defense.

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Post#1076 » by Simmons25 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:15 am

cksdayoff wrote:these last couple of pages are bipolar. BC bent Ainge over. god damn if true


Telling me. I wish I had read page 50 whilst i was replying to posts on page 45 :lol: :lol:
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Post#1077 » by LongLiveHinkie » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:16 am

Woj reporting the Celtics will choose between Tatum and Jackson if Ball goes 2nd.
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Post#1078 » by 76ciology » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:17 am

-Celts got a slight downgrade with Jackson.
-Fits better w/ current roster.
- Also puts them in position to do blockbuster trade with 8 1sts for next two drafts
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Post#1079 » by nitocobola » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:18 am

76ciology wrote:-Celts got a slight downgrade with Jackson.
-Fits better w/ current roster.
- Also puts them in position to do blockbuster trade with 8 1sts for next two drafts

maybe they will draft tatum.
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Post#1080 » by cksdayoff » Sun Jun 18, 2017 4:22 am

is jaylen brown coming off the bench or something?
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