All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2

[AgentGreen]

We lack inside scoring.. Jackson will fill that gap for us and he has a decent 3, so he is potentially a two way threat imo.. Just need a 4 who can do that as well and we will have a very interesting season.

Jackson and Brown from the bench, moving the ball and switching from the perimeter to inside. Both can hit the 3 if you leave them open and when you get to close they will blowpast you, post you up or pass the ball away to a teammate who is open for the 3-pointer.

Ainge and Stevens know their stuff.. Just trust the process.

Jackson will bring inside scoring and 3pt shooting? WTF are you talking about?

He was a .378 from 3 point range in college. He was 25 for 52 in the last 2 months of the season. That can be built on.

He has shown growth and improvement so that's a very good sign. And now for Fultz's defensive flaws? Did he show any growth and improvement on the defensive end? Maybe that's the main reason why they passed on him.

[The Corey's]

I'll stick to my word from earlier. 3 years from this date danny will not be our gm.

He gets this upcoming year because if he wasn't he wouldn't of been allowed to make that deal. Gets next year's due to blind loyalty and when fultz takes off and Jackson can't shoot ball he goes off into retirement.

I'll put it in my signature.

do it, please do.

He's done. Gonna burn through our resources to field a non championship team.

Usually you're more level headed about these things.

[sully00]

I don't like complex conditions. Makes it less of an asset if other teams can't tell what they're getting.

I also think we should have held out for more. In fact I don't see the rush. Wait until draft day and let Phili sweat. Leak a few rumors that LA is offering Ingram.

If we stay at 3 I guess I'd take Ball. But LA, not us decides on whether Jackson or Ball is available. Jackson doesn't excite me. Thus I'm tempted to talk with Phoenix and Sacramento about dropping further. I assume 3 for 7 and Porzingis would probably be unrealistic. But a man can dream.

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The conditions aren't complex they preserve the asset. If it was unprotected you don't get a second chance if it isn't top 5.

[Sven]

We are going to have a butler and Hayward in here. Calm down everyone. Lol.

Why not Tatum at 3?


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Tatum is slow, has a really high handle and is not a good shooter.

I really don't see any star potential there

He shot 34% from 3 and 85% from the line, I think his shot will be pretty good in the NBA.

I would say you can't pick him at 3, though, might as well make the trade down to Sacramento for 5 and 10 if you're picking Tatum. Everyone seems to have Fox going at 4, so get Tatum at 5.

[StojkoVrankovic]

An interesting aspect is that Ainge traded down to possibly select a player, Ball/Jackson, that hasn't worked out for us yet. Granted, we have the next couple of days, but that is crazy.

[GoCeltics123]

just be patient. Danny doesn't give a **** what we think, hes doing what he thinks is best.

I went from praying for Fultz to praying for a trade

[derblitzenator]

The threshold question is whether you would trade Fultz for Jackson and one of Doncic/Ayton/Bamba? The answer should be a resounding yes! It's not a slam dunk that it'll happen, but it's the kind of gamble that if it works it could change the trajectory of the franchise.

[smith2373]

Jackson will bring inside scoring and 3pt shooting? WTF are you talking about?

He was a .378 from 3 point range in college. He was 25 for 52 in the last 2 months of the season. That can be built on.

He has shown growth and improvement so that's a very good sign. And now for Fultz's defensive flaws? Did he show any growth and improvement on the defensive end? Maybe that's the main reason why they passed on him.

Lol. You think this team would pass on Fultz because of his defense but max out the worst defensive player in the league?

[31to6]

So when do we change the title to "All Things #3 Pick"?

Think we'll still be talking about the #1 pick for awwwwhiiile

[LarryBirdsFingr]

I'll stick to my word from earlier. 3 years from this date danny will not be our gm.

He gets this upcoming year because if he wasn't he wouldn't of been allowed to make that deal. Gets next year's due to blind loyalty and when fultz takes off and Jackson can't shoot ball he goes off into retirement.

I'll put it in my signature.

do it, please do.

He's done. Gonna burn through our resources to field a non championship team.

Usually you're more level headed about these things.

usually, yeah but there has to be a bigger picture here. waiting on that sig tho, patiently

[Novocaine]

Read on Twitter

This is a **** joke.

Yeah...

If they actually had someone to else as the best player in the draft and they can get him at 3 that's one thing

Letting pending free agents and role players decide the fate of a number 1 pick is rediculous

Getting both picks I was ok, getting one more potentially mid '19 pick if things don't go well, not so much

And why not keep the bidding open until draft time?

The problem is that Fultz is a pure 1 and needs to play as the PG to have a chance of reaching his ceiling. As a secondary guard, he just isn't that appealing - Fultz greatest traits, contrary to popular opinion, are his passing + game management, much more than, say, his penetration skills, which are average at best right now - he just lacks explosion or shiftness.

So if Ainge believes Thomas can reproduce last season a few more times, it might make sense to get rid of Fultz ASAP - as much as I like Fultz, I admit it's very unlikely he ever reaches the heights of Thomas last season - very few players in the history of the league did.

[djFan71]

Read on Twitter

If this is legit I'm totally on board.

**** man that's pretty solid!

Also: why assume we keep this year's pick and trade the future one? Maybe we trade the #3 and keep the LAL pick. Two shots next year or one at Bagley in '19 (or if Bagley's in '18 draft and we have two picks there.....)

Yep, root for BKN getting #1, LAL #2. That would be awesome. If Lakers are halfway decent, you get the Vivek Trainwreck's 2019. I'm quite alright with that.

[The Corey's]

You're comparing Fultz to KG? Come on, man.

You know damn well that isn't what he's doing.

Nah that's exactly what he's doing.

He basically said "No fultz because too many guards" = "No KG because too many pfs"

What he is really saying is that fultz would be our best guard and you don't pass on him just like kg would be our best pf

[Marvel]

So Danny balked on drafting Fultz because too many guards? LMFAO that's like saying "won't draft KG too many pfs on my roster".

You're comparing Fultz to KG? Come on, man.

Pre draft, yes.

[djFan71]

If Ainge had something lined up wouldn't the 1st pick in the draft be more valuable than the 3rd? What the heck am I missing?

#1 is an overpay for what he's shooting for. Split it up, get #3 and an additional asset, only use one for what he's trading for.

[Gomes3PC]

If we keep the pick and take Jackson I will consider renouncing my fandom. There is no court where he, Brown and Smart can coexist.

[Froob]

Gross, Smitty saying they are likely going to trade them. Ugh do not try to step into the ring with the Dubs.

[The Corey's]

do it, please do.

He's done. Gonna burn through our resources to field a non championship team.

Usually you're more level headed about these things.

usually, yeah but there has to be a bigger picture here. waiting on that sig tho, patiently

How should I word it?

[tombattor]

You're comparing Fultz to KG? Come on, man.

You know damn well that isn't what he's doing.

Nah that's exactly what he's doing.

He basically said "No fultz because too many guards" = "No KG because too many pfs"

So you can't compare a most likely number 1 pick to a big time player? Who are you allowed to compare him to? Some d-leaguer?

[KamikazeK]

You know damn well that isn't what he's doing.

Nah that's exactly what he's doing.

He basically said "No fultz because too many guards" = "No KG because too many pfs"

What he is really saying is that fultz would be our best guard and you don't pass on him just like kg would be our best pf

Fultz and KG are two very different levels of player. Passing on KG, for whatever reason (it really doesn't matter), is very different from passing on Fultz.