All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2

[ViperGTS]

Because you know on your team he is back up and Jackson might be a starter.

That only matters if you think you can contend. Not seeing it....Celts reasons seems real dumb if it's not winning and overflow of guards.

WTF? I think Boston reasons are they are going to try and add a future star in this draft and one or two All Stars this offseason. Standing pat with Fultz was not going to make that possible.

Horse for ponies. There aren't any All Stars available outside of the current FA crop. And any trade is prohibitive in the cost. So no, draft the best guy, and grab a FA. Don't blow assests on an aging All Star. And yes, PG13 and Butler are aging for example.

[31to6]

What is the risk? Most of the time these deals are about money or a useless future pick. Ainge just got a top 5 pick next year or an unrestricted Kings pick in '19. I get that because Ainge keeps doing this that Boston fans don't understand how rare these type of assets are but to get this from a lottery dwelling team is ridiculous.

Bottom line Fultz isn't Lebron James or Kevin Durant, what do you do? If you can double down.

Amen. We're drowning in riches. If the reported deal is correct there's a great chance we just acquired a guy like Porter, Ayton, Bamba, Doncic, or even Bagley and half the board's like 'shrug'. It's a move with some risk to it, sure, but also amazing potential reward.

First, with the protections on the pick and probabilities the chance of getting a player as touted as Fultz is almost impossible. we're saying Fultz isn't Lebron, we have no clue if any of these listed prospects are anything special at the moment. Ayton could end up being Frank Kamisky for all we know.

Have you also not bothered to read up on what the actual deal is? I'm impressed.

[Duke4life831]

The only way I like this pick as of now is if Silver comes out tomorrow and says players can come straight out of high school which means the 2018 draft features Marvin Bagley, Zion Williamson, Ayton, Bamba, and Porter JR.

Zion and Bagely dont really fit the holes that you guys have right now. Ayton and Bamba do fit those holes very welll. You guys just need to land one of those 2 guys and it would be the perfect situation, Carter would be a solid fit as well, just not as well as those two guys. I think its smart to give you guys as many chances possible to land one of Bamba or Atyon. I think its a very smart move that Ainge just did.

[sully00]

What is the risk? Most of the time these deals are about money or a useless future pick. Ainge just got a top 5 pick next year or an unrestricted Kings pick in '19. I get that because Ainge keeps doing this that Boston fans don't understand how rare these type of assets are but to get this from a lottery dwelling team is ridiculous.

Bottom line Fultz isn't Lebron James or Kevin Durant, what do you do? If you can double down.

Amen. We're drowning in riches. If the reported deal is correct there's a great chance we just acquired a guy like Porter, Ayton, Bamba, Doncic, or even Bagley and half the board's like 'shrug'. It's a move with some risk to it, sure, but also amazing potential reward.

They have protections. No protections? Fine. Protections suck and are meant to help only one team, which is the one trading them. I still love how,people fawn over these protected picks. Protected picks blow. It insulates the team that trades them so they have a good shot at keeping them.

Imagine Philly sucking again and getting number one next year? Heck, I bet that's the plan. Suck for one more year and maybe get 1.

Dude read. It is two way protection just like Ainge did with Dallas in the Rondo trade. Ainge knows what the hell he is doing that is why he has so many other team's picks.

[AKFO]

The only way I like this pick as of now is if Silver comes out tomorrow and says players can come straight out of high school which means the 2018 draft features Marvin Bagley, Zion Williamson, Ayton, Bamba, and Porter JR.

Yea. ..bagley andWilliamson will be seniors next year lol

Lmao reread his post

[Patsfan1081]

This is an extremely smart move by Ainge. Fultz fits well with you guys but you do have IT and Bradley already. I really dont think there is really difference between any of the top 4-5 guys. So if you can get another 1st round pick to trade down just 2 spots and still stay in the top 5 its a great deal. It gives you a few more picks to add value to a trade or you can just draft Jackson or Tatum who are actually a better fit than Fultz. I think Tatum is your best fit, he goes very well with Brown, but I wont be surprised to see you guys trade this pick as well.

I can't see Ainge resigning Bradley, I'm not sure exactly how many fans are keen around here on even giving IT a max deal either. We'll see what happens, Boston is still missing that number one guy, maybe even a number two. I thought Fultz had the best chance at being that even if people don't believe there's much diff 1-4. We'll see, I'm just not going to act like trading the first overall pick isn't a big risk.

[KL78192020]

Amen. We're drowning in riches. If the reported deal is correct there's a great chance we just acquired a guy like Porter, Ayton, Bamba, Doncic, or even Bagley and half the board's like 'shrug'. It's a move with some risk to it, sure, but also amazing potential reward.

First, with the protections on the pick and probabilities the chance of getting a player as touted as Fultz is almost impossible. we're saying Fultz isn't Lebron, we have no clue if any of these listed prospects are anything special at the moment. Ayton could end up being Frank Kamisky for all we know.

Have you also not bothered to read up on what the actual deal is? I'm impressed.

Still a lot of variables, what if Lakers don't finish 2-5 and kings improve by 2019. Could end up being a weak trade

[FlatearthZorro]

In order I think the options are:

1. #3 gets traded for a vet
2. Draft Jayson Tatum
3. #3 gets traded to move back again (SAC was reportedly willing to move up)
4. Draft Josh Jackson

or trade back to 5 and draft Tatum.

Yea we either trade the pick or select a wing.... or the best PG in the draft - Dennis Smith Jr.

[SparringPartner]

Prediction;

The LAL pick protection will be for Boston, so it will protected 5-30. If Boston doesn't get a top 5 pick with the LAL 2018 pick they get 2019 SAC


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[Slartibartfast]

Celts will now pursue Butler while retaining two out of Jaylen/3rd pick/Nets 2018.

Plus two out of Smart/Crowder/Rozier.

Plus IT Horford, Zizic, Yabu.

Then land Hayward for Griffin in free agency.

LMAO @ THE HATERS

I just don't like that top foursome.

IT is a problem with any high usage big 4 and a very big problem if 3/4 are undersized. Butler is the only plus defensive player of the stars (I think Horford has aged down to average defensively, maybe even below average with how bad he is on the glass). Hayward weds us to extreme small ball, Griffin weds us to his crappy injury history.

And all freaking mercenaries. No homegrown guys, just a random bunch of high-powered hired guns except for our bench.

[Tyakack]

Not gonna lie, I'm disappointed. I was so excited to get fultz.. I refuse to flip out though until I see how this all ends.

[Bohemian]

I don´t like trading the #1 pick (we were so much anxious to get the top pick to just trade it away...sigh). Fultz is the best player in the draft according to the experts and we just gave him away. The ¨too many guards¨thing is lame. There are trades for a reason, pàrticularly when you have to extend or trade guards like Bradley soon.

I HOPE Danny is trading this #3 pick. Otherwise I don´t see it.

I hope we are not doing a Sam Bowie move here.

[Froob]

Ugh vet. Please don't be Butler or George. Get a real piece for the next decade.

[Patsfan1081]

The only way I like this pick as of now is if Silver comes out tomorrow and says players can come straight out of high school which means the 2018 draft features Marvin Bagley, Zion Williamson, Ayton, Bamba, and Porter JR.

Zion and Bagely dont really fit the holes that you guys have right now. Ayton and Bamba do fit those holes very welll. You guys just need to land one of those 2 guys and it would be the perfect situation, Carter would be a solid fit as well, just not as well as those two guys. I think its smart to give you guys as many chances possible to land one of Bamba or Atyon. I think its a very smart move that Ainge just did.

I believe Boston needs cornerstone players, I don't care what position they play this team isn't close to winning a title until they can land a top ten or potentially a top ten player.

[Duke4life831]

So, this is what I think will happen. We'll sign Hayward to play the 3, draft Tatum to play small ball 4, which I think he'll excel at. He's got very broad shoulders, and he'll really fill out, and the kid is a very good offensive player. With the LAL/Sac pic, we either wait and take it, pretty much guaranteed yet another top 5, or we flip it for Butler or George, and I'm not yet sure whether I'd prefer to trade that pick or ride it out. There are some very good bigs coming out next year. All that, and we still have the BKN 18 in our back pocket. Coming off the ECF, we are sitting pretty. The sky is not falling.

Tatum is without your best fit at #3. I personally dont like him at the 4, I think he is a 3 through and through (im in the minority on this though) but ya I think he fits great with Brown or Hayward.

Ill just say this, dont believe what many people say when they say Tatum is a ball stopper. He is far from it, the dude is a beast ISO player and that is why people say he is a ball stopper. The dude did whatever Duke needed him to do this past year. If that was keep the ball moving, he did it. If it was giving him the ball to get a score he did it. He will fit in very well with you guys and Stevens will know how to use him to perfection.

[ViperGTS]

Amen. We're drowning in riches. If the reported deal is correct there's a great chance we just acquired a guy like Porter, Ayton, Bamba, Doncic, or even Bagley and half the board's like 'shrug'. It's a move with some risk to it, sure, but also amazing potential reward.

They have protections. No protections? Fine. Protections suck and are meant to help only one team, which is the one trading them. I still love how,people fawn over these protected picks. Protected picks blow. It insulates the team that trades them so they have a good shot at keeping them.

Imagine Philly sucking again and getting number one next year? Heck, I bet that's the plan. Suck for one more year and maybe get 1.

Dude read. It is two way protection just like Ainge did with Dallas in the Rondo trade. Ainge knows what the hell he is doing that is why he has so many other team's picks.

So a possible top 5 pick next year is worth forfeiting an unprotected Sac '19 pick. Right. Makes sense. So worst case have the 5th pick, which is not awesome and nothing the next year. For Fultz.

No he doesn't know what he is doing. Want Fultz? Both unprotected or top 2 for one.

[Captain_Caveman]

Celts will now pursue Butler while retaining two out of Jaylen/3rd pick/Nets 2018.

Plus two out of Smart/Crowder/Rozier.

Plus IT Horford, Zizic, Yabu.

Then land Hayward for Griffin in free agency.

LMAO @ THE HATERS

Butlers knee is toast.

We'll keep #3 who will be yet another role player.

Land Hayward or Griffin which would have happened regardless and has nothing to do with this trade.

Way to lump in irrelevant info to cover up trading away an elite prospect for more non star players.

In the words of Conor McGregor, "Who the **** is THAT guy?"

[sully00]

That only matters if you think you can contend. Not seeing it....Celts reasons seems real dumb if it's not winning and overflow of guards.

WTF? I think Boston reasons are they are going to try and add a future star in this draft and one or two All Stars this offseason. Standing pat with Fultz was not going to make that possible.

Horse for ponies. There aren't any All Stars available outside of the current FA crop. And any trade is prohibitive in the cost. So no, draft the best guy, and grab a FA. Don't blow assests on an aging All Star. And yes, PG13 and Butler are aging for example.

How about draft the guy you think is best and trade the extra crap you get in trading down for an all star and then signing another all star? Aging All Star's WTF I am really having a hard time here I have to be honest.

[SparringPartner]

I am really not a Jimmy Butler fan. Plus PG13 could be had for less assets because of his contract situation, but there's obviously more risk. I am pretty confident that when PG13 wins in Boston he will stay.


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[Captain_Caveman]

Oh man... I cannot wait to make some of these dudes change their handles in shame, lmao.