All Things #1 Pick 2017 Take 2

[D1SGRUNTL3D]

The only way I like this pick as of now is if Silver comes out tomorrow and says players can come straight out of high school which means the 2018 draft features Marvin Bagley, Zion Williamson, Ayton, Bamba, and Porter JR.

Yea. ..bagley andWilliamson will be seniors next year lol

Lmao reread his post

Straight out of high school means completing the 12th grade...Unless he meant Zion and Marvin can come out after their jr year which I'm cool with

[31to6]

First, with the protections on the pick and probabilities the chance of getting a player as touted as Fultz is almost impossible. we're saying Fultz isn't Lebron, we have no clue if any of these listed prospects are anything special at the moment. Ayton could end up being Frank Kamisky for all we know.

Have you also not bothered to read up on what the actual deal is? I'm impressed.

Still a lot of variables, what if Lakers don't finish 2-5 and kings improve by 2019. Could end up being a weak trade

That's part of the risk -- and a relatively small one. The potential reward, meanwhile, is fantastic. And I do think Fultz will be a star -- just not the only one to enter the league in the next few years.

[JJtheBricklayer]

Amen. We're drowning in riches. If the reported deal is correct there's a great chance we just acquired a guy like Porter, Ayton, Bamba, Doncic, or even Bagley and half the board's like 'shrug'. It's a move with some risk to it, sure, but also amazing potential reward.

They have protections. No protections? Fine. Protections suck and are meant to help only one team, which is the one trading them. I still love how,people fawn over these protected picks. Protected picks blow. It insulates the team that trades them so they have a good shot at keeping them.

Imagine Philly sucking again and getting number one next year? Heck, I bet that's the plan. Suck for one more year and maybe get 1.

Dude read. It is two way protection just like Ainge did with Dallas in the Rondo trade. Ainge knows what the hell he is doing that is why he has so many other team's picks.

Hes fine at getting the picks, its turning them into talent that he hasnt done recently. The 76ers now have 3 players with more talent and upside then anyone on the celtics. I'm not a fan of the trade, but I could get over it, its the fact that we may have just set up the successors to the cavs in the east without winning the trade outright that irks me.

[Froob]

WTF? I think Boston reasons are they are going to try and add a future star in this draft and one or two All Stars this offseason. Standing pat with Fultz was not going to make that possible.

Horse for ponies. There aren't any All Stars available outside of the current FA crop. And any trade is prohibitive in the cost. So no, draft the best guy, and grab a FA. Don't blow assests on an aging All Star. And yes, PG13 and Butler are aging for example.

How about draft the guy you think is best and trade the extra crap you get in trading down for an all star and then signing another all star? Aging All Star's WTF I am really having a hard time here I have to be honest.

First part for sure, but if you trade it for a vet you better have a plan to contend or you are just throwing away picks.

[winsomme2]

Celts will now pursue Butler while retaining two out of Jaylen/3rd pick/Nets 2018.

Plus two out of Smart/Crowder/Rozier.

Plus IT Horford, Zizic, Yabu.

Then land Hayward for Griffin in free agency.

LMAO @ THE HATERS

So what does a Butler deal look like, whichever they like least out of Brown/#3 plus Bradley?

I liked the Butler/Griffin/Hayward trio addition at the beginning of this thread but that might break the wallet/Zarren's brain. Even harder than the earlier ones we had cooked up lol.

Interesting one now is trading for Butler and George with no cap room angle.

3rd pick, Grizz 2018, Amir, Crowder, Rozier for Butler and RLopez.

Nets 2018, Lakers 2018, Olynyk, Zeller, Jerebko for George.

IT/Smart
Butler/Bradley
George/Jaylen
Horford/Yabu
RLopez/Zizic

LOOK OUT!

This team does not beat Cleveland much less make a run at the warriors.

[chrisab123]

They have protections. No protections? Fine. Protections suck and are meant to help only one team, which is the one trading them. I still love how,people fawn over these protected picks. Protected picks blow. It insulates the team that trades them so they have a good shot at keeping them.

Imagine Philly sucking again and getting number one next year? Heck, I bet that's the plan. Suck for one more year and maybe get 1.

Dude read. It is two way protection just like Ainge did with Dallas in the Rondo trade. Ainge knows what the hell he is doing that is why he has so many other team's picks.

Hes fine at getting the picks, its turning them into talent that he hasnt done recently. The 76ers now have 3 players with more talent and upside then anyone on the celtics. I'm not a fan of the trade, but I could get over it, its the fact that we may have just set up the successors to the cavs in the east without winning the trade outright that irks me.

You're not a fan of athletic defenders with grit that have no offense? You're nuts!

[Jakeopp]

So, this is what I think will happen. We'll sign Hayward to play the 3, draft Tatum to play small ball 4, which I think he'll excel at. He's got very broad shoulders, and he'll really fill out, and the kid is a very good offensive player. With the LAL/Sac pic, we either wait and take it, pretty much guaranteed yet another top 5, or we flip it for Butler or George, and I'm not yet sure whether I'd prefer to trade that pick or ride it out. There are some very good bigs coming out next year. All that, and we still have the BKN 18 in our back pocket. Coming off the ECF, we are sitting pretty. The sky is not falling.

Tatum is without your best fit at #3. I personally dont like him at the 4, I think he is a 3 through and through (im in the minority on this though) but ya I think he fits great with Brown or Hayward.

Ill just say this, dont believe what many people say when they say Tatum is a ball stopper. He is far from it, the dude is a beast ISO player and that is why people say he is a ball stopper. The dude did whatever Duke needed him to do this past year. If that was keep the ball moving, he did it. If it was giving him the ball to get a score he did it. He will fit in very well with you guys and Stevens will know how to use him to perfection.

Didn't watch him alot. What are your thoughts on his defense, ball handling and athleticism?

[Patsfan1081]

Prediction;

The LAL pick protection will be for Boston, so it will protected 5-30. If Boston doesn't get a top 5 pick with the LAL 2018 pick they get 2019 SAC


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They're saying Boston gets it if its in between 2-5, if not than they get the 19 Kings pick. So Philly still has two options to get the number one pick in nexts years draft.

[fallguy]

Dude read. It is two way protection just like Ainge did with Dallas in the Rondo trade. Ainge knows what the hell he is doing that is why he has so many other team's picks.

Hes fine at getting the picks, its turning them into talent that he hasnt done recently. The 76ers now have 3 players with more talent and upside then anyone on the celtics. I'm not a fan of the trade, but I could get over it, its the fact that we may have just set up the successors to the cavs in the east without winning the trade outright that irks me.

You're not a fan of athletic defenders with grit that have no offense? You're nuts!

Who knows if we'll take or keep Josh Jackson but there are zero smart people out there that think he is an offensive zero.

[ViperGTS]

WTF? I think Boston reasons are they are going to try and add a future star in this draft and one or two All Stars this offseason. Standing pat with Fultz was not going to make that possible.

Horse for ponies. There aren't any All Stars available outside of the current FA crop. And any trade is prohibitive in the cost. So no, draft the best guy, and grab a FA. Don't blow assests on an aging All Star. And yes, PG13 and Butler are aging for example.

How about draft the guy you think is best and trade the extra crap you get in trading down for an all star and then signing another all star? Aging All Star's WTF I am really having a hard time here I have to be honest.

Butler is 2 years from the wrong side of 30 and already is having back/knee/whatever issues. PG13 isn't the same since he broke his leg. He just isn't. And that can make a player age faster.

So yes, aging All Stars.

[sully00]

First, with the protections on the pick and probabilities the chance of getting a player as touted as Fultz is almost impossible. we're saying Fultz isn't Lebron, we have no clue if any of these listed prospects are anything special at the moment. Ayton could end up being Frank Kamisky for all we know.

Have you also not bothered to read up on what the actual deal is? I'm impressed.

Still a lot of variables, what if Lakers don't finish 2-5 and kings improve by 2019. Could end up being a weak trade

Bulls or Pacers problem.

[Duke4life831]

The only way I like this pick as of now is if Silver comes out tomorrow and says players can come straight out of high school which means the 2018 draft features Marvin Bagley, Zion Williamson, Ayton, Bamba, and Porter JR.

Zion and Bagely dont really fit the holes that you guys have right now. Ayton and Bamba do fit those holes very welll. You guys just need to land one of those 2 guys and it would be the perfect situation, Carter would be a solid fit as well, just not as well as those two guys. I think its smart to give you guys as many chances possible to land one of Bamba or Atyon. I think its a very smart move that Ainge just did.

I believe Boston needs cornerstone players, I don't care what position they play this team isn't close to winning a title until they can land a top ten or potentially a top ten player.

You cant overlook fit though. Plus Ayton and Bamba might have the highest potential for a prospect since AD, in my opinion. They fit perfectly for you guys and they seriously have ridiculous potential.

Ayton is basically Towns but with a bigger and stronger body and Bamba is basically Gobert with AD athleticism. Ayton has motor issues but I believe that wont be an issue with Stevens and Bamba doesnt have the highest offensive potential, but my god his defensive potential is the highest I have seen in the last 10-15 years.

[Marvel]

Crowder/Zeller/Smart/Lakers 2018 for Butler.

Bradley and Grizz 2018 for Minny #7.

Draft DSJ.

Sign Hayward.

Sign Olynyk.

IT/DSJ
Butler/Rozier
Hayward/Jaylen
Horford/Yabu
Olynyk/Zizic

Meh. Replace KO with Jokic now we're talkin.

Jokic isn't a free agent, he's one of the best young prospects in the league.

It was tongue in cheek. Give me a tongue over KO tho.

[djFan71]

Interesting one now is trading for Butler and George with no cap room angle.

3rd pick, Grizz 2018, Amir, Crowder, Rozier for Butler and RLopez.

Nets 2018, Lakers 2018, Olynyk, Zeller, Jerebko for George.

IT/Smart
Butler/Bradley
George/Jaylen
Horford/Yabu
RLopez/Zizic

LOOK OUT!

Interesting. I'd probably see if I could do AB instead of BKN18 since George is a rental. Jaylen backing up both spots is fine, then you still have top 5 2018 pick left.

[Captain_Caveman]

So what does a Butler deal look like, whichever they like least out of Brown/#3 plus Bradley?

I liked the Butler/Griffin/Hayward trio addition at the beginning of this thread but that might break the wallet/Zarren's brain. Even harder than the earlier ones we had cooked up lol.

Interesting one now is trading for Butler and George with no cap room angle.

3rd pick, Grizz 2018, Amir, Crowder, Rozier for Butler and RLopez.

Nets 2018, Lakers 2018, Olynyk, Zeller, Jerebko for George.

IT/Smart
Butler/Bradley
George/Jaylen
Horford/Yabu
RLopez/Zizic

LOOK OUT!

This team does not beat Cleveland much less make a run at the warriors.

Yeah, OK... LOL.

Sorry, I'm going to spend the rest of this thread talking to other people.

Have a good life.

[Celtics_Champs]

I miss the days where trading for a guy like Butler or george would be nothing short of 100 pages 90 percent loving it and over rating the next year's team. Instead I'm seeing tons of posts discarding it. **** Super teams.

[Darth Celtic]

If kings want fox, trade 3 for 5 and 10, take either Jackson or Tatum at 5 (whoever is left), and one of the 7ft 3pt shooters at 10 to replace KO.

[Slartibartfast]

Have you also not bothered to read up on what the actual deal is? I'm impressed.

Still a lot of variables, what if Lakers don't finish 2-5 and kings improve by 2019. Could end up being a weak trade

Bulls or Pacers problem.

Think it's more likely #3 is headed out.

[ConstableGeneva]

Celts will now pursue Butler while retaining two out of Jaylen/3rd pick/Nets 2018.

Plus two out of Smart/Crowder/Rozier.

Plus IT Horford, Zizic, Yabu.

Then land Hayward for Griffin in free agency.

LMAO @ THE HATERS

So what does a Butler deal look like, whichever they like least out of Brown/#3 plus Bradley?

I liked the Butler/Griffin/Hayward trio addition at the beginning of this thread but that might break the wallet/Zarren's brain. Even harder than the earlier ones we had cooked up lol.

You could replace Hayward with Griffin but NOT Butler with George (need to add more pieces for salary-matching).
Non-tax, under-the-cap team.

[chrisab123]

Zion and Bagely dont really fit the holes that you guys have right now. Ayton and Bamba do fit those holes very welll. You guys just need to land one of those 2 guys and it would be the perfect situation, Carter would be a solid fit as well, just not as well as those two guys. I think its smart to give you guys as many chances possible to land one of Bamba or Atyon. I think its a very smart move that Ainge just did.

I believe Boston needs cornerstone players, I don't care what position they play this team isn't close to winning a title until they can land a top ten or potentially a top ten player.

You cant overlook fit though. Plus Ayton and Bamba might have the highest potential for a prospect since AD, in my opinion. They fit perfectly for you guys and they seriously have ridiculous potential.

Ayton is basically Towns but with a bigger and stronger body and Bamba is basically Gobert with AD athleticism. Ayton has motor issues but I believe that wont be an issue with Stevens and Bamba doesnt have the highest offensive potential, but my god his defensive potential is the highest I have seen in the last 10-15 years.

Yeah they aren't taking any of these guys. Danny will pass on them for a wing that can't shoot but has a high motor.