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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#81 » by Baddy Chuck » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:33 am

Magic Giannison wrote:There is a huge difference of a young team that wins games during regular season against great teams and wins in playoffs compared to a team that got what record in last 4 years? 27 % win record? its not the same.

You guys guys should appreciate more that we managed to get 6ht seed with so many injuries, 0 bench depth while starting 2 rookies and injured Middletton/Jabari.

Just like I was supposed to appreciate taking some games off the Bulls a few years ago?
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#82 » by Magic Giannison » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:34 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:I hate to be this petty, but I find it hilarious imagining this conversation if the Sixers draft that skinny, awkward Greek kid 4 years ago.

Is that suppose to be a shot at Greek fans?

If Giannis wasnt on the Bucks the bucks would've been in this position,im not sure where this IF when why discussion can go.
Fact is we are in much better possition ( yes much better) than 76ers who are ages behind in terms of development and they will there IF they stay healthy and that is a BIG if.
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#83 » by Baddy Chuck » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:35 am

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Baddy Chuck wrote:I hate to be this petty, but I find it hilarious imagining this conversation if the Sixers draft that skinny, awkward Greek kid 4 years ago.

Is that suppose to be a shot at Greek fans?

A little bit. Because I think a couple of you have turned from Greek fans to MBBOTs

And if Giannis was on the Sixers instead of the Bucks you'd be arguing passionately against MBBOT on the Hoopshype forums about how the Sixers core is better than the Bucks.
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#84 » by Magic Giannison » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:39 am

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Magic Giannison wrote:There is a huge difference of a young team that wins games during regular season against great teams and wins in playoffs compared to a team that got what record in last 4 years? 27 % win record? its not the same.

You guys guys should appreciate more that we managed to get 6ht seed with so many injuries, 0 bench depth while starting 2 rookies and injured Middletton/Jabari.

Just like I was supposed to appreciate taking some games off the Bulls a few years ago?

Why are you comparing apple and orange, how is this situation even remotely the same as few years ago ?
Again, we managed to get 6th seed with TWO ROOKIES and injured CORE , imagine any team in our position with young core doing that. Tell me who else would've managed that?

I mean you got Sports outlet and coaches and analysts salivating about future and core and somehow you compare it to Kohl era where we were a treadmill team with Caron freaking Butler,Mayo JJ reddick and Brandon Jennings?

When was the last time Bucks got stars much less superstars on their team ?
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#85 » by Baddy Chuck » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:40 am

Magic Giannison wrote:I mean you got Sports outlet and coaches and analysts salivating about future and core and somehow you compare it to Kohl era where we were a treadmill team with Caron freaking Butler,Mayo JJ reddick and Brandon Jennings?

The Sixers core has those same people salivating and yet there's nothing to see there according to you? Just sayin.
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#86 » by Magic Giannison » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:43 am

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Magic Giannison wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:I hate to be this petty, but I find it hilarious imagining this conversation if the Sixers draft that skinny, awkward Greek kid 4 years ago.

Is that suppose to be a shot at Greek fans?

A little bit. Because I think a couple of you have turned from Greek fans to MBBOTs

And if Giannis was on the Sixers instead of the Bucks you'd be arguing passionately against MBBOT on the Hoopshype forums about how the Sixers core is better than the Bucks.

And if my grandma could fly she would've been superwoman . Whats the point fo the assumptions you make especially when they hold no basis. If you cannot argue with evidence and stuff that happen don't resort to fantasies just to threw and throw shade at someone.
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#87 » by GFreak34 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:43 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
Magic Giannison wrote:I mean you got Sports outlet and coaches and analysts salivating about future and core and somehow you compare it to Kohl era where we were a treadmill team with Caron freaking Butler,Mayo JJ reddick and Brandon Jennings?

The Sixers core has those same people salivating and yet there's nothing to see there according to you? Just sayin.


why, what is there to see according to you? And if there actually is something worth to see, let's see it first and we ll appreciate it later.. but you expect us to be hyped on a hypothesis that is unproven, next to something that actually happened and keeps happening?? This just doesn't make sense.
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#88 » by Magic Giannison » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:46 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
Magic Giannison wrote:I mean you got Sports outlet and coaches and analysts salivating about future and core and somehow you compare it to Kohl era where we were a treadmill team with Caron freaking Butler,Mayo JJ reddick and Brandon Jennings?

The Sixers core has those same people salivating and yet there's nothing to see there according to you? Just sayin.

Nobody is salivating on Sixers in terms of achievement, they are salivating on the HYPE.
The Bucks already got a superstar and a proven guy that is healthy, we got a core of Middleton and Parker and hopefully Thon adds to it.

What Sixers got is nothing more than a hypothetical scenario which depends on variables that so far showed to be HUGE problems.

Its like trying to make a case of Greg Oden and how he is the GOAT if he wouldnt be injured, it makes no sense.
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#89 » by Baddy Chuck » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:48 am

Magic Giannison wrote:Nobody is salivating on Sixers in terms of achievement, they are salivating on the HYPE.

This just in, nobody is salivating over what the Milwaukee Bucks have achieved, they are salivating over the potential it could take us to just like the Sixers. 1 game over .500 has nobody salivating besides Herb Kohl.
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#90 » by blazza18 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:55 am

Can't get excited over young players, future assets, cap room. No playoff wins

But can get excited over young player(s), no future assets, no cap room. Scared the team who got swept by the Cavs a week later.
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#91 » by GFreak34 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:57 am

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Magic Giannison wrote:Nobody is salivating on Sixers in terms of achievement, they are salivating on the HYPE.

This just in, nobody is salivating over what the Milwaukee Bucks have achieved, they are salivating over the potential it could take us to just like the Sixers. 1 game over .500 has nobody salivating besides Herb Kohl.


what potential man? Potential means projecting on proven things and estimating that they will keep evolving better.. right now, you haven't even seen Simmons or Fultz in the league to make arguments on potential.. i can post you experts saying that they are busts.. so what? first you need to see them play, like you have with Giannis, Parker, Brogdon and Thon, then you need to see them being consistent and then you can start on potential.. According to potential the Lakers having D'Angelo and Ingram shouldnt suck that much, instead the ones that were actually contending and werent sucking were the Nuggets with Jokic.. Potential is not an abstract thing, it is based on real facts.. Till you have those facts on Simmons and Fultz, keep the hype down a bit.. And certainly there s nothing indicating that Philly has more potential overall compared to Milwaukee, from the simple fact that Philly doesn't have a superstar like Giannis yet. If and when they find one, then let's start feeling doomed.
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#92 » by Baddy Chuck » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:58 am

GFreak34 wrote:And certainly there s nothing indicating that Philly has more potential overall compared to Milwaukee, from the simple fact that Philly doesn't have a superstar like Giannis yet. If and when they find one, then let's start feeling doomed.

They do though. We'll see if he can stay healthy, sure.
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#93 » by Magic Giannison » Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:59 am

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Magic Giannison wrote:Nobody is salivating on Sixers in terms of achievement, they are salivating on the HYPE.

This just in, nobody is salivating over what the Milwaukee Bucks have achieved, they are salivating over the potential it could take us to just like the Sixers. 1 game over .500 has nobody salivating besides Herb Kohl.

You can't be serious, we got people talking all around how Bucks are the next power in the east, the only team that could fight the Warriors in future, how we got the next King when lebron leaves.

You keep ignoring that we actually have shown to be the rising team in the east, the Sixers hasn't show jack for the last how many years. Again, you're making it sound that being a playoff team is the same as a lottery one .its not.

We have already got fundamentals that keep growing and improve each year, Sixers got nothing of that .
We got players that played together and keep improving together and gel and you can see the progress we have made, Sixers made 0 progress,they just keep adding assets HOPING they pan out, we have assets that already are proven.



This is the guy that is biggest Lebron fanboy, then you KD praising Giannis calling him as the next big thing, you got Lowe and T mac calling him future MVP and Pippen saying that Giannis looks a lot like him and so no.
Heck, you even got Pop praising him like noone else.



Look at Minny, even tho they are healthy most of time they cannot jack as well, how the heck a team that hasnt played 1 game together is in better situation than us ?
Why are you guys so damn negative about everything all the time ?
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#94 » by Baddy Chuck » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:02 am

Magic Giannison wrote:Look at Minny, even tho they are healthy most of time they cannot jack as well, how the heck a team that hasnt played 1 game together is in better situation than us ?
Why are you guys so damn negative about everything all the time ?

Nobody is being negative about the Bucks at all here. We love where we are at for the most part regarding our core.

We can always objectively look at another teams core/pool and not get butt hurt though.
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#95 » by Magic Giannison » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:03 am

blazza18 wrote:Can't get excited over young players, future assets, cap room. No playoff wins

But can get excited over young player(s), no future assets, no cap room. Scared the team who got swept by the Cavs a week later.

You can excited about assets and future assets but you dont take those unproven assets over the proven ones.
With that logic, lets trade Giannis Middletton and everyone for the future assets if they hold same value to you.
The reason people are tanking is to get people like Giannis Jabari and Middletton not to jsut gather assets, when you get them you go to a whole other level of development from there on.

Tell me, what development has Sixers done in the last 4 years? They dont even have and established core, ti changes every year, from MCW, to NOEL then Okafor, now Saric Embiid, then Simmon and now FUltz.
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#96 » by GFreak34 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:05 am

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GFreak34 wrote:And certainly there s nothing indicating that Philly has more potential overall compared to Milwaukee, from the simple fact that Philly doesn't have a superstar like Giannis yet. If and when they find one, then let's start feeling doomed.

They do though. We'll see if he can stay healthy, sure.


they do who? which Philly player has more upside and superstardom than Giannis?

This is why he s been called a FREAK dude.. because normally a 7' trying to play point (i.e. Simmons) would end up injured, but this guy doesn't coz the way he s build is un-natural. So, why wouldn't he stay healthy? On the other hand, Simmons and Embiid are aren't healthy and they haven't even been in the league YET.. so, again, chill down the hype.
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#97 » by blazza18 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:06 am

Teams are not tanking to get players like Jabari or Middleton.
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#98 » by Magic Giannison » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:07 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
Magic Giannison wrote:Look at Minny, even tho they are healthy most of time they cannot jack as well, how the heck a team that hasnt played 1 game together is in better situation than us ?
Why are you guys so damn negative about everything all the time ?

Nobody is being negative about the Bucks at all here. We love where we are at for the most part regarding our core.

We can always objectively look at another teams core/pool and not get butt hurt though.

Objectivity doesn't mean to downplay your team to death tho ,because saying that Sixers are in same or better position than us just because we only won 4 more playoff games with our 22 year old guy leading them ?

Why don't you tell me how many more wins Sixers got than Bucks in the last 4 years combined,why regular season games aren't important ? Isn't the development part happening during that time ?
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#99 » by Baddy Chuck » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:07 am

Magic Giannison wrote:Tell me, what development has Sixers done in the last 4 years? They dont even have and established core, ti changes every year, from MCW, to NOEL then Okafor, now Saric Embiid, then Simmon and now FUltz.

That's like criticizing the Bucks for adding guys like Brogdon and Maker to the "core" because it changed.
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Re: ATL - Fultz to Philly 

Post#100 » by GFreak34 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:09 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:
Magic Giannison wrote:Look at Minny, even tho they are healthy most of time they cannot jack as well, how the heck a team that hasnt played 1 game together is in better situation than us ?
Why are you guys so damn negative about everything all the time ?

Nobody is being negative about the Bucks at all here. We love where we are at for the most part regarding our core.

We can always objectively look at another teams core/pool and not get butt hurt though.


But i haven't bashed on Philly out of nowhere.. what i m saying about Philly is on contrast to the Bucks, as a reply about the Bucks being literally doomed for the next 10 years.. why? because Philly is gonna get Fultz and has a great Process that's been working.. Other than that sure, they ll make a nice little team - if they actually manage to be healthy for a season or two.

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