The case for Jonathan Isaac

[Darth Magic]

Could it Be that Issac plays the 4 defensively and the 3 offensively, while Aaron plays the 3 defensively and the 4 offensively?

IF Isaac is able to hit threes at a respectable clip, then he could play the 3 offensively and cross match defensively with Gordon.

If he can't, then the Magic would once again have some major spacing problems.

Sigh

[cedric76]

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[Skin]

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https://sethsdrafthouse.com/jonathan-isaac-the-most-interesting-man-in-the-2017-nba-draft-6b2c31fd26e8

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A great MUST read.

[cedric76]

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A great MUST read.

I knew you d enjoy that one

[fendilim]

The key for Isaac is whether he can be that guy who can takeover.

He reminds me so much of Iguodala who has all the physical tools in the world, has the skills to be great, but doesn't have the mentality to be so.

[rusoopE]

If isaac is drafted by the magic and shows a high ceiling upside. I really dont care about trading AG

[SOUL]

If isaac is drafted by the magic and shows a high ceiling upside. I really dont care about trading AG

Or.. keep both?

[rusoopE]

If isaac is drafted by the magic and shows a high ceiling upside. I really dont care about trading AG

Or.. keep both?

The only way i see the magic keeping both is if isaac can play center that would be awesome (sry vooch). I dont believe in switching positions in every posession ( season games at least). I was one of the many on this board Who was excited to watch Gordon playing SF. But totally blew up in our faces. It will take time for isaac to be a threat playing SF imo, he will be better suited at pf. And knowing how this organization has no patience in developing i expect gordon to be traded if isaac shows some kind of sparks on the court. Btw im not sold on AG as i never been

[cedric76]

If isaac is drafted by the magic and shows a high ceiling upside. I really dont care about trading AG

Or.. keep both?

The only way i see the magic keeping both is if isaac can play center that would be awesome (sry vooch). I dont believe in switching positions in every posession ( season games at least). I was one of the many on this board Who was excited to watch Gordon playing SF. But totally blew up in our faces. It will take time for isaac to be a threat playing SF imo, he will be better suited at pf. And knowing how this organization has no patience in developing i expect gordon to be traded if isaac shows some kind of sparks on the court. Btw im not sold on AG as i never been

Guys the days r long gone when we had 5 positions on the floor.

[Orlando Tragic]

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Interesting little tidbit...
"Orlando might trade down if Denver takes Evan Fournier’s contract off their hands, but it’s tough to find the right deal."

[MartinsIzAfraud]

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https://sethsdrafthouse.com/jonathan-isaac-the-most-interesting-man-in-the-2017-nba-draft-6b2c31fd26e8

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Interesting little tidbit...
"Orlando might trade down if Denver takes Evan Fournier’s contract off their hands, but it’s tough to find the right deal."

I'll give em 25+Fournier to move up but not down lol we have to take BPA at 6.

[tiderulz]

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Interesting little tidbit...
"Orlando might trade down if Denver takes Evan Fournier’s contract off their hands, but it’s tough to find the right deal."

except Evan isnt a contract that needs to be taken off someone's hands. not saying we cant trade him, but it isnt something we need to be saved from

And his body comparisons only ring true with Durant. Isaac body is not like Kawhi or Giannis.

[p0peye]

If Aaron had better length, we might try playing him at C. It could be interesting. At PF, he's OK, but nothing spectacular. At SF, he's great fit defensively, but lack of skills turns him into net negative. Since his length isn't likely to ever improve, unless he gets better in skills department we might have "only" solid PF at our hands in AG. I'm OK with trading that piece considering where we are now.

Isaac is intriguing prospect and we might try him at SF or PF. Bucks tried putting Giannis in every position possible except coach and referee, but it didn't "ruin" him at all.

[Jameerthefear]

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https://sethsdrafthouse.com/jonathan-isaac-the-most-interesting-man-in-the-2017-nba-draft-6b2c31fd26e8

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Interesting little tidbit...
"Orlando might trade down if Denver takes Evan Fournier’s contract off their hands, but it’s tough to find the right deal."

Lol Evan doesn't need to be salary dumped. This guy has no idea what he's talking about.

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[Darth Magic]

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https://sethsdrafthouse.com/jonathan-isaac-the-most-interesting-man-in-the-2017-nba-draft-6b2c31fd26e8

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Interesting little tidbit...
"Orlando might trade down if Denver takes Evan Fournier’s contract off their hands, but it’s tough to find the right deal."

except Evan isnt a contract that needs to be taken off someone's hands. not saying we cant trade him, but it isnt something we need to be saved from

And his body comparisons only ring true with Durant. Isaac body is not like Kawhi or Giannis.

Exactly. I think its laughable to suggest we somehow need to trade Fournier. He's an asset not a liability. We trade 6 and Fournier to move down into the teens. Are these people high?

[Skin]

The key for Isaac is whether he can be that guy who can takeover.

He reminds me so much of Iguodala who has all the physical tools in the world, has the skills to be great, but doesn't have the mentality to be so.

In the article that cedric just posted they made several interesting comments... like this one..

The truth is “role player” is a silly, outdated term. It implies that each NBA team has one, maybe two, stars who score all the points and get the attention, that everyone else on the team just does the dirty work. We talk about three-and-D guys like they’re something special, but nowadays, anyone that does not have a passable three or play decent defense is almost unplayable. In 2017, almost every good player is a 3-and-D guy. And on good teams, almost everyone has a role to fill.

In 2017, every NBA contender is trying to figure out how to get someone that can defend LeBron or Durant and be at useful on the other end of the court. Through seven years of LeBron Finals, every single Conference Finals team had a versatile athletic wing that could defend any position. By comparison, just 18 of the 28 teams had a top-level point guard, and only 12 or 13 had a great traditional center. You can win in the modern NBA without a top notch point guard or big man, but you can’t even get close without one of these wings anymore.

[OrlChamps2030]

I'm okay with Isaac at 6 but what will be the difference between him being a high level role player versus fulfilling his potential will be whether or not he can attack a set defense in the half court off the dribble.

[Knightro]

Exactly. I think its laughable to suggest we somehow need to trade Fournier. He's an asset not a liability. We trade 6 and Fournier to move down into the teens. Are these people high?

Fournier is definitely more liability than asset if he continues to play as poorly as he did this past year.

If he bounces back to his form under Skiles, then it's a different story.

[Xatticus]

I'm okay with Isaac at 6 but what will be the difference between him being a high level role player versus fulfilling his potential will be whether or not he can attack a set defense in the half court off the dribble.

Agreed. I think a big part of that will be how his physical development enhances his offensive game. He has the ability to create, but he didn't cope with physicality well last year. He doesn't shy away from it, but it really disrupted his ability to create.

[Darth Magic]

The key for Isaac is whether he can be that guy who can takeover.

He reminds me so much of Iguodala who has all the physical tools in the world, has the skills to be great, but doesn't have the mentality to be so.

In the article that cedric just posted they made several interesting comments... like this one..

The truth is “role player” is a silly, outdated term. It implies that each NBA team has one, maybe two, stars who score all the points and get the attention, that everyone else on the team just does the dirty work. We talk about three-and-D guys like they’re something special, but nowadays, anyone that does not have a passable three or play decent defense is almost unplayable. In 2017, almost every good player is a 3-and-D guy. And on good teams, almost everyone has a role to fill.

In 2017, every NBA contender is trying to figure out how to get someone that can defend LeBron or Durant and be at useful on the other end of the court. Through seven years of LeBron Finals, every single Conference Finals team had a versatile athletic wing that could defend any position. By comparison, just 18 of the 28 teams had a top-level point guard, and only 12 or 13 had a great traditional center. You can win in the modern NBA without a top notch point guard or big man, but you can’t even get close without one of these wings anymore.

Hmmmmm? That bolded part intrigues me. I'm starting to think this way as well. I'm not sure it is fair to say that you can win without a top notch point guard. I'd go the opposite of that. Just a look at the teams in the playoff kinda debunks that I think. But he makes a great point regarding the wings. It is becoming extremely important to get dem athletic, long wings. Which is why I am leaning close to Issac because of his length and ability.