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Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz

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Grade the trade

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A
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B
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1141 » by PLO » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:59 am

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cksdayoff wrote:is jaylen brown coming off the bench or something?

I don't think the #3 pick will ever play for the Celtics. Heck Brown may never play for them again.


You're assuming the Celtics aren't finished trading in this draft which is a fair assumption to make to be fair, especially given some of the hints dropped in tweets by those covering the NBA.

If they do keep the pick Tatum/Isaac makes more sense than Jackson; as other posters have mentioned Jackson is a bit of a Brown clone so bringing him in doesn't make too much sense. So they could 1. draft Jackson and trade Brown in a package or 2. keep Brown get Tatum/Isaac and keep Brown or 3. trade down or out of the first round/top 10 altogether. Like you I think option 3 is the most likely but if they were to keep the pick I think they'll go Tatum.
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1142 » by long range bomber » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:32 am

The fact that the trade is NOT both Lakers AND Kings pick swings me towards it being a win for the Sixers.. just a really expensive win as I don't consider Fultz a sure fire All Star.
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1143 » by hookshot199 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:38 am

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CoreyGallagher wrote:
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Don't ruin this Bryan.

Although, if there are deals not involving the 4 players in the picture from today (and Saric), than fine by me.

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Not much else he can do before the draft. Probably the Celtics, but not us.


Okafor could still be in play to Chicago.
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1144 » by Wilfried » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:41 am

hookshot199 wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:
CoreyGallagher wrote:
Read on Twitter


Don't ruin this Bryan.

Although, if there are deals not involving the 4 players in the picture from today (and Saric), than fine by me.

Spoiler:
Read on Twitter


Not much else he can do before the draft. Probably the Celtics, but not us.


Okafor could still be in play to Chicago.


Okafor + 2 2nd rounders for #16? Would that be enough?
I really would like that.

A lot of (back-up) big men and shooting guards are still available then.
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1145 » by reload141 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:44 am

Boston fan - I come in peace.

Reckon we both did well in this trade, you got to finish your future "big 3" with Fultz who will work perfectly with Embiid on PNR and add that go to scorer role.
We moved back with an eye for a better fit for us in Tatum and score a top 2-5 2018 pick or top 5 pick from Sac in 2019.
I remember BC saying he hates dealing with Ainge but this deal came to fruition very quickly so it was clear both sides are very happy.

Well done!
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1146 » by long range bomber » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:47 am

Wilfried wrote:
hookshot199 wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:
Not much else he can do before the draft. Probably the Celtics, but not us.


Okafor could still be in play to Chicago.


Okafor + 2 2nd rounders for #16? Would that be enough?
I really would like that.

A lot of (back-up) big men and shooting guards are still available then.

I really hope Okafor can net us a future 1st rounder as his value will only get worse in 2018.
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1147 » by hookshot199 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:53 am

Skates wrote:
LongLiveHinkie wrote:
CoreyGallagher wrote:
Read on Twitter


Don't ruin this Bryan.

Although, if there are deals not involving the 4 players in the picture from today (and Saric), than fine by me.

Spoiler:
Read on Twitter


Not much else he can do before the draft. Probably the Celtics, but not us.


Okafor, moving/consolidating some second rounders, maybe both. Bigger moves for the C's I imagine, but the Sixers still have some work to do. If they go after Butler then Okafor to Chicsgo becomes more of a possibility in the same or a separate trade.



According to Draft Express and realgm's mocks: 15 through 20 are mostly centers - including Allen, Patton, Giles, Adebayo and Leaf. Maybe, they see a higher-energy project to replace Okafor.

The Bulls pick is 16.
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1148 » by Foshan » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:04 am

I think Giles would be worth the risk at that point. I really think he has the red flag potential to drop like a stone. but if we coudl get him for Okafor i would be all for it.
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Post#1149 » by long range bomber » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:14 am

Giles could be an absolute steal as a mid to late 1st if he were to recapture his HS athleticism. Dude look like a young Amare before his injuries.
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Post#1150 » by HartfordWhalers » Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:11 am

Snuck a grade the trade poll in.
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Post#1151 » by kriss73 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:20 am

...or if Fultz is the second coming of MJ :-D
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1152 » by Simmons25 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:27 am

joshuapending wrote:What does this mean for Ben? If he now has the ball out of his hands for a long time his major skills are really deminished.


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I think he will still be the point guard and primary ball handler... he is too elite a creator and passer to not play in that position and is a mismatch headache. It makes too much sense to have Fultz playing the 2 with his perimeter shooting ability.

I still think you will find they will take turns initiating offense as well. Simmons doesn't need to be a good shooter... he is a good slasher and if he gets a mismatch on switches he is also very good at using his size to take advantage in the post over a smaller guy.

In fact think of a world where Simmons and Fultz play pick and roll.... good lord. Even Embiid and Fultz PNR with Simmons slashing to the basket or taking advantage of his guy in the post.

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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1153 » by Chris76 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:50 am

wainseven wrote:I am glad we end up paying fair value for fultz, and hopefully BC now doesn't see the need to sign a max deal with lowry


Good point. A max deal for Lowry would restrict our options going forward. Now, we can better use that money to get a 4th starter that fits great with our core, once we get a chance to evaluate them. Probably, SG is the next position to upgrade. A Clay Thompson type player would fit well. Also, a PF might be a need too. If we could get Orlando's 6th pick somehow and grab Isaac, he would be a great fit. A 6'11 mobile shooter and defender.
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Re: Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz 

Post#1154 » by Sarni » Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:02 am

I think it's actually an A for both sides. Boston did not need to take Fultz if their intention is to extend Thomas next season, and Phila did not not need to take a small forward with dubious shooting ability, who will however fit the current Celtics team. And future pick I think Celtics will try to include in a trade for Butler.

For 76ers, Fultz is exactly the player they need. Not Jackson, not Fox, not Ball - an all rounder Fultz who can do it all. If him, Simmons and Embiid all stay healthy, it's a hell of a team with perfect balance. Future picks were also of not so much value as accumulating even more young talent becomes pointless at some point as you saw with your three centers overkill.

I only don't rate that Noel trade. Return was poor and even if he needed $20M this offseason, I'd have kept him as Embiid insurance.
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Post#1155 » by 51X3RF4N » Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:03 am

Fultz can switch on 1s and 2s, and potentially occasionally 3s. Cov can switch on 2s and 3s, and potentially occasionally 1s. Simmons can switch on 3s and 4s, and potentially occasionally 5s. Embiid can switch on 4s and 5s.

To be the most versatile team in the NBA defensively, draft or sign a guy who can shoot 38% or better from 3, and can switch on 3s and 4s, and potentially occasionally 2s.

Who is that guy?


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TJ can only guard 1s.
TLC can guard 1s, 2s, and 3s.
Anderson can guard 2s and 3s.
Saric can only guard 4s or small ball 5s.
Holmes can guard 4s and 5s.

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Post#1156 » by long range bomber » Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:04 am

With Fultz, Simmons and Embiid locked into the starting line up, imagine if we signed KCP and Otto Porter to max contracts and their respective teams did not match? Both are young 3 and D wings that fit our timeline and compliment our 3 stars...
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Post#1157 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:21 am

If Otto Porter were more of a 2 than a 3, I'd throw a max at him in a heartbeat. However, I don't know if he or Cov could consistently guard the 2.


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Post#1158 » by 51X3RF4N » Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:21 am

51X3RF4N wrote:Fultz can switch on 1s and 2s, and potentially occasionally 3s. Cov can switch on 2s and 3s, and potentially occasionally 1s. Simmons can switch on 3s and 4s, and potentially occasionally 5s. Embiid can switch on 4s and 5s.

To be the most versatile team in the NBA defensively, draft or sign a guy who can shoot 38% or better from 3, and can switch on 3s and 4s, and potentially occasionally 2s.

Who is that guy?


The bench by the way:
TJ can only guard 1s.
TLC can guard 1s, 2s, and 3s.
Anderson can guard 2s and 3s.
Saric can only guard 4s or small ball 5s.
Holmes can guard 4s and 5s.

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I'll answer my own question here.

Semi Ojeleye and George De Paula.

Semi can guard 3s, 4s, and occasionally 2s, and shoots well from beyond. He is an interesting candidate to become a starter full time with our group, and a trade of Okafor and 2nds for #16 should get you Semi.

As for GDP, you might get him in the early 2nd. And he would be fantastic off the bench at PG who can covers 1s, 2s and maybe 3s. GDP/TLC backcourt off the bench is scary.

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Post#1159 » by long range bomber » Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:22 am

KCP had size to guard 1 or 2, Porter has size to guard 3 and some 4s.
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Post#1160 » by Cheatergriffin » Sun Jun 18, 2017 11:31 am

Foshan wrote:I think Giles would be worth the risk at that point. I really think he has the red flag potential to drop like a stone. but if we coudl get him for Okafor i would be all for it.


Pretty sure after the 9th acl tear it became clear harry giles was born to be a sixer.

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