2017 Lakers Draft Pick Discussion

Post #1661 » by **Slava** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:26 am

Ainge knows how to **** up a golden goose.

Mirjalovic · Post #1662 » by **Mirjalovic** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:28 am

LakersSoul wrote:
TylersLakers wrote:Wow. The Celtics were... bent over. How the hell could Ainge agree to have the Lakers pick protected?

Everyone thought Danny Ainge trade against Bryan Colangelo so it must be one sided. However, everyone sees that there are no Shaq or Towns this year. #1 pick is valuable but its not like previous years. Fultz is the most likely #1 and the safest but not that much which separates the #1 with the #3 pick. In fact, the top 5 is pretty much set:

Top Tier:

1. Fultz (floor 4, ceiling 9)
2. Ball (floor 3, ceiling 9)
3. Jackson (floor 3, ceiling 9)
4. Tatum (floor 5, ceiling 8)
5. Fox (floor 3, ceiling 8)

Fultz is one of the safest bets (regards to floor) with higher star potential ceiling. Ball is not a safe bet as one of the riskier picks at #2 with his awkward form but nobody can deny his potential on improving a team especially for the Lakers (low floor and high ceiling). He could be a super-star or a bust. Jackson has quickness and defense which means higher ceiling but struggles with his shot and character issues. Top 3 is almost a pick em so Ainge picks one of these guys and gets another top pick in the future.

Next Tier (but not that far off from the first group):

6. DSJ
7. Isaac
8. Monk

Ainge got fair/good value for #1 pick. Usually a #1 pick would mean over-valuing but 76ers didnt kill themselves for that pick. The 2018 Lakers pick is somewhat protected but only at #1. If it falls 2-5 then the Cs get it, if not then the Celtics didnt want it and pushed for the Sacramento 2019 pick. Thus, Boston got #3 pick (small drop in talent over #1) and a potential top 5 pick in 2018 or Sacramento's unprotected pick in 2019.

2018:

1. Porter
2. Bamba
3. Ayton
4. Doncic
5. Sexton

These guys are what Boston is most likely targetting in 2018. If its outside, then they would prefer 2019 pick from Sacramento. Of course, someone will always drop and others will jump just like Fultz but that is Ainge's gamble. Its a good trade but not spectacular "bent over" trade that most Celtics fans expected.

i think DSJ better than Fox

AmusingFiddle · Post #1663 » by **AmusingFiddle** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:52 am

At this point our is Lonzo. I believe it was LB all along.
Any speculation of trading down was probably over stated. It probably involved our existing players to land another top 5/7 in this years draft and next.

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AmusingFiddle · Post #1664 » by **AmusingFiddle** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:55 am

Its been reported and widely speculated that Lonzo is most likely gping to be a superstar in the NBA.

Not LeBron level obviously but he is mostly likely have a career like Kyrie/Curry level talent.

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Sushisensei26 · Post #1665 » by **Sushisensei26** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:02 am

Fultz is gonna make Danny Ainge regret this.

Best thing is now we take our Ball and go home.

Spens1 · Post #1666 » by **Spens1** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:23 am

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Spens1 · Post #1667 » by **Spens1** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:24 am

Sushisensei26 wrote:Fultz is gonna make Danny Ainge regret this.

Best thing is now we take our Ball and go home.

hold on, we got 28 and contracts to ditch at the draft. We still have plenty to do.

ISayshowmee · Post #1668 » by **ISayshowmee** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:38 am

The sad part about the robbery in Boston, Fultz could have been the face of the Celtics.....but time will tell.

Frank Dux · Post #1669 » by **Frank Dux** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:44 am

Ainge just played himself.

Spens1 · Post #1670 » by **Spens1** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:44 am

I'm kind of sad to be honest about this. I was really hoping we had a chance at Fultz. I mean Ball is a great consolation prize but he's exactly that, a consolation prize (the best kind of consolation prize though).

Also i'm worried that we would legitimately chose Jackson or even worse, Fox at #2.

Post #1671 » by **Danny Darko** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:00 am

well at least I found Fultz's celebrity look alike.

Mirjalovic · Post #1672 » by **Mirjalovic** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:08 am

Spens1 wrote:I'm kind of sad to be honest about this. I was really hoping we had a chance at Fultz. I mean Ball is a great consolation prize but he's exactly that, a consolation prize (the best kind of consolation prize though).

Also i'm worried that we would legitimately chose Jackson or even worse, Fox at #2.

lol the Celtics and Sixers trying to outsmart themselves and the Lakers will come out as winner with Lonzo Ball.

but, 3 years from now Sixers vs Lakers in the Final NBA will be fun.

Ball
Russell
Ingram
Randle
Zubac

vs

Fultz
Luwawu
Ben Simmons
Saric
Embiid

this will be fun and better than GSW vs Cavs finals.

ISayshowmee · Post #1673 » by **ISayshowmee** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:29 am

Mirjalovic wrote:
Spens1 wrote:I'm kind of sad to be honest about this. I was really hoping we had a chance at Fultz. I mean Ball is a great consolation prize but he's exactly that, a consolation prize (the best kind of consolation prize though).

Also i'm worried that we would legitimately chose Jackson or even worse, Fox at #2.

lol the Celtics and Sixers trying to outsmart themselves and the Lakers will come out as winner with Lonzo Ball.

but, 3 years from now Sixers vs Lakers in the Final NBA will be fun.

Ball
Russell
Ingram
Randle
Zubac

vs

Fultz
Luwawu
Ben Simmons
Saric
Embiid

this will be fun and better than GSW vs Cavs finals.

No Celtics ? Oh Ainge busy still on who to pick as the first pick of the draft.....LOVE IT !!

Spanish_Laker · Post #1674 » by **Spanish_Laker** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:50 am

I think it's time to call the media and state we're drafting the LA boy.

AmusingFiddle · Post #1675 » by **AmusingFiddle** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:15 am

Magic/Pelinka would be stupid to not draft LB.
JJ, Fox or anyone else over Ball would be blasphemous. Most experts say Ball and Fultz are sure shots. After them the drop off in talent is pretty steep.

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AmusingFiddle · Post #1676 » by **AmusingFiddle** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 10:16 am

Magic/Pelinka would be stupid to not draft LB.
JJ, Fox or anyone else over Ball would be blasphemous. Most experts say Ball and Fultz are sure shots. After them the drop off in talent is pretty steep.

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yanuary · Post #1677 » by **yanuary** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 12:18 pm

Trade down with Suns (and rob them Rob!) is really interesting option.

karkinos · Post #1678 » by **karkinos** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 1:53 pm

I can see the Celtics trading down to 3 with phlly to get the cap space and future first then flipping #3 and the future picks to sac town who want fox. This leaves them with 5, 10, and more cap space. They then can draft dsj who can create and is exactly what the c's need. For rebounding they could go Zach Collins but I haven't read abt them working him out. Lauri did work out for them so that is a possibility as well if they manage to get two picks this draft. Given the small window, makes no sense for them to continue to try to accumulate more future first rounders as a priority imo

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pickIBL · Post #1679 » by **pickIBL** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:41 pm

Trade down. Dennis Smith, Jr is a better pick than Ball.

Orlando Send
Hezonja
6th
25th

Magic Send
2nd
28th

Or

Sacramento Sends
Rights to Bogdanovic
Skal
10th (You get Smith or Ntilikina)

Pointgod · Post #1680 » by **Pointgod** » Sun Jun 18, 2017 2:47 pm

Danny Ainge is a moron. Here are the number one draft picks over the past 10 years
Ben Simmons
Karl Anthony Towns
Andrew Wiggins
Anthony Bennett
Anthony Davis
Kyrie Irving
John Wall
Blake Griffin
Derrick Rose
Greg Oden

In comparison here is the list of 3rd overall picks in the last 10 years
Jaylen Brown
Jahlil Okafor
Joel Embiid
Otto Porter
Bradley Beal
Ennis Kanter
Derrick Favors
James Harden
Oj Mayo
Al Horford

Good job Danny Ainge, you just handed Sixers can all star. You played yourself.

Just for kicks here is the history of number 2 draft picks.

Brandon Ingram
D'angelo Russell
Jabari Parker
Victor Oladipo
Michael Kidd Gilcrest
Derrick Williams
Evan Turner
Hasheem Thabeet
Michael Beasley
Kevin Durant

Who do the Lakers draft on June 22nd with the 2nd overall pick?