All things Draft Pick. #3

[LarryBirdsFingr]

I think some Celtics fans are upset by the trade. I always look at rest of NBA. No one is killing this trade for Boston. Why is that?

I wanted Fultz, but there must be something about that kid that doesn't really fire people up. This isn't a Duncan, Lebron, Anthony Davis draft.


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The next two drafts kinda are.

[Grahf]

If Jackson was promised by LA, it's Tatum or.... good lord could Ainge actually be targeting Lonzo?

[ConstableGeneva]

BC leaks like a sieve

Re-read the phrasing.
"Celtics hadn't even been told the deal was done." How can they not know that the deal is done if they're the ones to okay it? Or do they mean approval from the league office? Confused.

It wasn't official and still isn't--league offices are closed. The Sixers knew what the Celtics would accept and released to the press it was done before talking to them.

That's odd. So it wasn't a done deal when Sixers leaked to the press that it was?

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If we use this pick on Jackson i will puke . Give me Tatum.


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Alert: Givony has us taking Tatum in his latest mock
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2017/

There is some relatively legitimate info that Suns like Isaac at 4. Could you imagine trading #3 for #5 and #10, picking up Tatum or Jackson at #5 and Collins at #10? That seems like the best case scenario for us if we don't trade for established players. Heck, it's a dream scenario and even both could be there if Kings trade up for Fox.

What's your scenario for the Kings trading up to leapfrog Phoenix and take a PG?

As said, 5 and 10 for 3 and maybe our 2018 pick. The question is Phoenix, they have Ullis and Booker, Fox would be a great addition to that team (also their former teammate), but so would Jackson and Tatum. Tatum theoretically fits perfectly next to Bender, but doesn't next to Booker. Jackson is a great fit for Phoenix, but will he be there and is that group (Ullis, Booker, Jackson, Bender, Chriss, Warren) good enough in terms of ceiling?

So basically you think Phoenix could take a PG even though they already have a bunch of them. Fair enough. No reason to rule out a team going BPA.

[ParticleMan]

If we use this pick on Jackson i will puke . Give me Tatum.


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Alert: Givony has us taking Tatum in his latest mock
http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2017/

yeah tatum is our guy.

i did 20 minutes of extensive research on the internet and determined this to be 100% true.

and no, i never said fultz was our guy. nope, never said that. ever.

[SparringPartner]

Ryan Bernardoni on Twitter: "A word of warning to anyone who thinks this ends with Butler/PG+Max FA+Isaiah re-signed: That team could have a $100+M tax bill in 2018-19. That's ~$110M in salaries BEFORE Butler re-signed. Add in whoever is left after trade, high pick rookie deals, roster filler and $ go nuts. Play that only one year further with Butler re-signed and you go from a $300M team to a $400M team aged 30+ with very likely no titles."

Okay, I'm even more confused. What's the plan then? It's surely not that? Owners won't pay for that if the ceiling is a puncher's chance at making the Finals.

It's looking like run back the same squad from last season (minus the FAs) + #3 + Hayward/Griffin?

Easy, you don't re-sign the 5'9 29-year-old.

You realize if there are no trades and the Celtics keep Isaiah and Avery and still have Horford on the books, it's a very similar situation. so who would you rather have, Gordon Hayward and Paul George or Isaiah Thomas and Avery Bradley?


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[Froob]

I think some Celtics fans are upset by the trade. I always look at rest of NBA. No one is killing this trade for Boston. Why is that?

I wanted Fultz, but there must be something about that kid that doesn't really fire people up. This isn't a Duncan, Lebron, Anthony Davis draft.


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The next two drafts kinda are.

BS they got it one protected. Feel like that karma will come back to bite us in the ass.

[ConstableGeneva]

Read on Twitter

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Re-read the phrasing.
"Celtics hadn't even been told the deal was done." How can they not know that the deal is done if they're the ones to okay it? Or do they mean approval from the league office? Confused.

It wasn't official and still isn't--league offices are closed. The Sixers knew what the Celtics would accept and released to the press it was done before talking to them.

That's odd. So it wasn't a done deal when Sixers leaked to the press that it was?

It's surely meant to say that the Sixers told the press they were accepting the Celtics' offer before they told the Celtics.

But would anybody be shocked if there were a deal on more generous terms to the Celtics than are being reported? Not I. The Celtics may not really have committed to that offer themselves.

Unless Ainge clearly made the offer, saying that both he and ownership were willing to do that deal, he's not committed to it.

[Froob]

#3 for PG who has zero chance to re sign is way too much.

[jfs1000d]

I think some Celtics fans are upset by the trade. I always look at rest of NBA. No one is killing this trade for Boston. Why is that?

I wanted Fultz, but there must be something about that kid that doesn't really fire people up. This isn't a Duncan, Lebron, Anthony Davis draft.


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The next two drafts kinda are.

Really? Then let's do this. I want to win now. I reject the premise that golden state is too good, and I also think waiting 6 years to compete is ridiculous.




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[wetsthebed]

Someone please photoshop Danny's face on Shooter if he actually wins this trade

I was bored.

[ConstableGeneva]

It wasn't official and still isn't--league offices are closed. The Sixers knew what the Celtics would accept and released to the press it was done before talking to them.

That's odd. So it wasn't a done deal when Sixers leaked to the press that it was?

It's surely meant to say that the Sixers told the press they were accepting the Celtics' offer before they told the Celtics.

But would anybody be shocked if there were a deal on more generous terms to the Celtics than are being reported? Not I. The Celtics may not really have committed to that offer themselves.

Unless Ainge clearly made the offer, saying that both he and ownership were willing to do that deal, he's not committed to it.

That's what I'm thinking. We should renege or renegotiate the terms of the deal. But then that's a bad look since it already went public.

[ConstableGeneva]

Someone please photoshop Danny's face on Shooter if he actually wins this trade

I was bored.

He looks like Michael Cera.

[SparringPartner]

I think some Celtics fans are upset by the trade. I always look at rest of NBA. No one is killing this trade for Boston. Why is that?

I wanted Fultz, but there must be something about that kid that doesn't really fire people up. This isn't a Duncan, Lebron, Anthony Davis draft.


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The next two drafts kinda are.

BS they got it one protected. Feel like that karma will come back to bite us in the ass.

All that protection on the Lakers pick was Ainge's plan to get the 2019 Sacramento pick. The Lakers are going to win like 25 to 30 games next year.

Oh yeah, the Celtic still have their Brooklyn pick for 2018!


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Just to confuse things further -- what if Ainge flips a pick to Sacramento, but it's not the #3?

It's tough to imagine Divac paying a high price to get back a pick he traded away for so little, but Ranadive isn't a TOTAL loser as a businessman, so I can see him saying "What's done is done. We had expensive lessons. Just do what's right going on from here."

If the essence of the trade is the #1, perhaps plus minor assets, going out, while #3 and #5 come back, the whole thing could look a lot better.

Or maybe ddb gets his wish, and we get #3 + #10 + WCS.

[London2Boston]

If Jackson was promised by LA, it's Tatum or.... good lord could Ainge actually be targeting Lonzo?

Lonzo could salvage all of this. A lot more than Jackson or Tatum anyway. Lakers aren't that stupid to not take him though.

[Froob]

Someone please photoshop Danny's face on Shooter if he actually wins this trade

I was bored.

How do you Photoshop gifs like that? Is it hard?

[SmartWentCrazy]

I see this trade as Ainge having Tatum above Fultz and essentially picking up a future pick for free. Under that lens, I like the move.

[Froob]

The next two drafts kinda are.

BS they got it one protected. Feel like that karma will come back to bite us in the ass.

All that protection on the Lakers pick was Ainge's plan to get the 2019 Sacramento pick. The Lakers are going to win like 25 to 30 games next year.

Oh yeah, the Celtic still have their Brooklyn pick for 2018!


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Ultimately it's a great trade if Fultz is as good or worse than who we get at 3. If you passed on Fultz for a worse player then you are an idiot.