Sixers officially acquire #1 pick per Woj and Aldridge. Will get Fultz

[Sixerscan]

I like the trade (as reported) pretty well, but that unprotected 2019 Sacto pick does scare me. At least give it #1 protection. You just do NOT want to become the 2011 Clippers again. I thought the lesson there was that a GM would never again trade the rights to a first round pick with no protections at all, especially if the team in question had a real chance of being bad.

Not that it ruins the whole thing for me, but the likelihood is that Boston gets the Sacto pick. If it's a top 3-4-5 pick, OK. That's steep value to pay for moving up 2 spots, but OK. It's two years from now. But if you wind up giving up the year's top prospect, man, that's pretty rough.

I know that a bunch of others have been saying, hey, it's all uncertainty, anything could happen. And yeah, sure, of course we don't know what will happen. But I still say that you don't give up a completely unprotected 1st rounder from a very bad team (which characterizes the Kings even more now than it has for the previous 5 years). You just don't.

I'm excited about Fultz, though.

Well to move up to one I'm okay with the 19 unprotected. If I'm Ainge, I'd shut the whole deal down if I can't get the 19 unprotected.

The Clippers gave that pick up to dump Baron Davis' salary. We got the number 1 pick 4 days before the draft. I completely understand why Ainge demanded there be upside with the future pick.

[sixers78]

Hard to win in Washington when chriss and Murray leave after one season for the NBA draft. That team lacked talent.

Hard to win when Lorenzo Romar is your head coach and has literally zero idea of offensive concepts and spacing. Fultz will have so much room to operate in the NBA and already has a full repetoir at age 18

That too. Funny one of the reasons he picked Wash was because of Romar lol

[sixers hoops]

I thought we'd give up more than this, and I would have been ok with that even. As it stands, I love the trade! BC really surprised me here, I thought he'd get fleeced. So hype about this fing team now!

Watching the Celtics fans meltdown admittedly makes things sweeter as well, even though I don't hate the trade for them

Most of the Celtic fans need to chill out.
Itnwas a fine trade for us. We are likely bringing in another all star, can still draft a stud, and have a lot of picks in the upcoming years. We will be, at the very least, in compitition with you guys. Cant remember the last time the sixers were better than okay, so it will be a fun time battling it out in the east with you guys in 5+ years!

Ainge just needs to strike at some point and put the assets together. The 4 nets pick just turned into a likely 5th top 5 all while they are a playoff team. That's exciting. However, Smart, Jaylen Brown, and likely Josh Jackson are pieces but not really guys to build around. In trade, he got IT, who is an all-star but also is not that stud to build around. Hartford and Bradley are nice pieces but not centerpieces.

If he doesnt strike with next year's Nets' pick or the pick from the sixers, it could get tough. Then he will be capped out with no premium picks to land the real firepower. If he didn't think Fultz was one of those centerpiece guys, then I think it was smart to grab another lottery ticket in the process.

[CoreyGallagher]

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[James40]

Winner winner chicken dinner, Okafor won a national title, how has that worked out? It's likely they have to add him in a trade just to get rid of him.

If BC determined Fultz is the guy, this is the right move and he didn't give up that much to get him, you do what you have to to get the BPA that's going to help your team win titles.

Celtic fans still shouldn't be upset or mad, they still have the Nets pick next year, maybe Lakers, or Sacs pick in 2019. It's a miracle they've made it this far in the playoffs (conference championship) with their current roster and that's a testament to Brad Stevens ( who coached Hayward at Butler).

Ainge has to stop kicking the can down the street and put a team together this and next year to challenge Cleveland. He $h!t the bed last year taking Brown, Ainge should have at least tried to mortgage the future for Simmons. They need a difference maker to beat Cleveland and compete with GS. It's time to move away from their midget scorer and get 5 guys who can play both ways.

If they don't get Butler, or George, and Hayward this year, the Celtics will be the definition of a treadmill team, cause in three years, they won't have a chance against the Sixers, maybe sooner.

No they won't. No offense, but you really haben't a clue what the FO is trying to do in Boston, understandably so, you dont live in Boston..vice versa for me.

Jaylen will develop into a solid player. He's had like 5 20 point games off the bench. Your assessment of the teams future is pretty wrong. You'll see in 5 years. This team is not building to compete with Cleveland and GS. They are trying to get better each year while the main objec building for the post Cleveland GS era.

And there is no evidence either of our young talents will amount to anything. Like it or not, you will have to get through us in 5-7 years. it will be pretty fun.

Keep on getting early picks who sit the bench, good for them and when they have the 2025 number 2 pick in the draft while getting eliminated in the 2nd round of the playoffs in 2024, will their fans still be like "we're building for the future" lol.

They can trade picks and still have some left over for the future, or they can sit still, draft guys to sit the bench, and watch the Sixers pass them by.

Super teams are here to stay, good luck winning anything in the NBA w/o having 2 of the top 5 players in the game. Stevens has that team of good players playing great basketball, but that isn't winning anymore in the NBA.

[James40]

I thought we'd give up more than this, and I would have been ok with that even. As it stands, I love the trade! BC really surprised me here, I thought he'd get fleeced. So hype about this fing team now!

Watching the Celtics fans meltdown admittedly makes things sweeter as well, even though I don't hate the trade for them

Most of the Celtic fans need to chill out.
Itnwas a fine trade for us. We are likely bringing in another all star, can still draft a stud, and have a lot of picks in the upcoming years. We will be, at the very least, in compitition with you guys. Cant remember the last time the sixers were better than okay, so it will be a fun time battling it out in the east with you guys in 5+ years!

Ainge just needs to strike at some point and put the assets together. The 4 nets pick just turned into a likely 5th top 5 all while they are a playoff team. That's exciting. However, Smart, Jaylen Brown, and likely Josh Jackson are pieces but not really guys to build around. In trade, he got IT, who is an all-star but also is not that stud to build around. Hartford and Bradley are nice pieces but not centerpieces.

If he doesnt strike with next year's Nets' pick or the pick from the sixers, it could get tough. Then he will be capped out with no premium picks to land the real firepower. If he didn't think Fultz was one of those centerpiece guys, then I think it was smart to grab another lottery ticket in the process.

Exactly right. At some point you need to crap, or get off the pot.

[76ciology]

Winner winner chicken dinner, Okafor won a national title, how has that worked out? It's likely they have to add him in a trade just to get rid of him.

If BC determined Fultz is the guy, this is the right move and he didn't give up that much to get him, you do what you have to to get the BPA that's going to help your team win titles.

Celtic fans still shouldn't be upset or mad, they still have the Nets pick next year, maybe Lakers, or Sacs pick in 2019. It's a miracle they've made it this far in the playoffs (conference championship) with their current roster and that's a testament to Brad Stevens ( who coached Hayward at Butler).

Ainge has to stop kicking the can down the street and put a team together this and next year to challenge Cleveland. He $h!t the bed last year taking Brown, Ainge should have at least tried to mortgage the future for Simmons. They need a difference maker to beat Cleveland and compete with GS. It's time to move away from their midget scorer and get 5 guys who can play both ways.

If they don't get Butler, or George, and Hayward this year, the Celtics will be the definition of a treadmill team, cause in three years, they won't have a chance against the Sixers, maybe sooner.

No they won't. No offense, but you really haben't a clue what the FO is trying to do in Boston, understandably so, you dont live in Boston..vice versa for me.

Jaylen will develop into a solid player. He's had like 5 20 point games off the bench. Your assessment of the teams future is pretty wrong. You'll see in 5 years. This team is not building to compete with Cleveland and GS. They are trying to get better each year while the main objec building for the post Cleveland GS era.

And there is no evidence either of our young talents will amount to anything. Like it or not, you will have to get through us in 5-7 years. it will be pretty fun.

Keep on getting early picks who sit the bench, good for them and when they have the 2025 number 2 pick in the draft while getting eliminated in the 2nd round of the playoffs in 2024, will their fans still be like "we're building for the future" lol.

They can trade picks and still have some left over for the future, or they can sit still, draft guys to sit the bench, and watch the Sixers pass them by.

Super teams are here to stay, good luck winning anything in the NBA w/o having 2 of the top 5 players in the game. Stevens has that team of good players playing great basketball, but that isn't winning anymore in the NBA.

I understand the Celtics trade and see the angle where they actually got more value in the trade. But I don't agree that Celts is eyeing the post Cavs-Gsw era for the same reason that their current roster played a big part on the deal.

If Celts is eyeing post Cavs-GSW, they would hold unto Fultz and disregard fit or needs. And not look into trading or signing for the usual suspects (blake, hayward and etc.) and not giving big paychecks to Horford and IT.

If you ask me.. I think Celts is forcing their way to compete with GSW-Cavs EVERY SEASON. The way they hoard assets while building present winning role players reminds me of that time Ainge consolidate Gerald Green, Al Jefferson, picks and etc. that he eventually shipped for the big 3. And I do think he's trying to pull something similar.

[sixers hoops]

Most of the Celtic fans need to chill out.
Itnwas a fine trade for us. We are likely bringing in another all star, can still draft a stud, and have a lot of picks in the upcoming years. We will be, at the very least, in compitition with you guys. Cant remember the last time the sixers were better than okay, so it will be a fun time battling it out in the east with you guys in 5+ years!

Ainge just needs to strike at some point and put the assets together. The 4 nets pick just turned into a likely 5th top 5 all while they are a playoff team. That's exciting. However, Smart, Jaylen Brown, and likely Josh Jackson are pieces but not really guys to build around. In trade, he got IT, who is an all-star but also is not that stud to build around. Hartford and Bradley are nice pieces but not centerpieces.

If he doesnt strike with next year's Nets' pick or the pick from the sixers, it could get tough. Then he will be capped out with no premium picks to land the real firepower. If he didn't think Fultz was one of those centerpiece guys, then I think it was smart to grab another lottery ticket in the process.

Exactly right. At some point you need to crap, or get off the pot.

I called Horford- Hartford. Oops.

[James40]

Ainge just needs to strike at some point and put the assets together. The 4 nets pick just turned into a likely 5th top 5 all while they are a playoff team. That's exciting. However, Smart, Jaylen Brown, and likely Josh Jackson are pieces but not really guys to build around. In trade, he got IT, who is an all-star but also is not that stud to build around. Hartford and Bradley are nice pieces but not centerpieces.

If he doesnt strike with next year's Nets' pick or the pick from the sixers, it could get tough. Then he will be capped out with no premium picks to land the real firepower. If he didn't think Fultz was one of those centerpiece guys, then I think it was smart to grab another lottery ticket in the process.

Exactly right. At some point you need to crap, or get off the pot.

I called Horford- Hartford. Oops.

I knew who you meant.

[bball4life]

Whatever helps Celtics fans sleep better at night... Either way doesn't need to be a leader...We have our super-alpha in Embiid...

Apparently Fultz struggled to win pick up games as a youngster, so maybe this is where this is coming from apart from his record with the Huskies. Mind you Fultz was small compared to his contemporaries as a youngster; he's a late bloomer in terms of physical development which is a major reason he's so good. Developing a skill-set to cope against bigger, stronger opponents is a big advantage when you get the same size or bigger than them.

Just as an aside that's the reason why I can't see Michael Porter being the number one pick next year - he's always been so advanced physically against the kids he's been playing against and you can clearly see he's deficient in a some crucial areas because he's been relying on his physical superiority.

Here's a solid article about Fultz' transformations
http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2017/06/16/the-transformation-markelle-fultz/VNOZVzt1KkNoyHmDmLnYJO/story.html

That was a good read. Sounds like a great character kid. I remember another player who didn't make varsity his first try and became a pretty decent player.

Oh and Markelle, we do have chil-fil-a in Philly. We aren't savages like those Boston cave dwellers.


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[OleSchool]

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Like it or not, you will have to get through us in 5-7 years. it will be pretty fun.

Sorry but, you're wrong. you'll have to get through US in 3 years.

Forget Fultz (who I think is going to be a solid pro, not an all-star). Forget Simmons who brings a LBJ like game. (Im not saying he's the next LBJ, cause I don't think he is. More like this generations Odom).

You have no one on your team that has the talent of Embiid. You can say "but yeah, he has to be healthy" Id wager that he will be, and if he can stay healthy the road to the finals will run through Philly. As a matter of fact, IF we can make the playoffs this year I believe that LBJ would give serious consideration to adding Philly to his list of possible FA destinations. I didn't think that would be possible a few days ago but with this move I think it shows the league that we're serious, and I think LBJ would see that talent we got (plus, him and Simmons are tight) and give us a real shot at signing him.

[OleSchool]

That was a good read. Sounds like a great character kid. I remember another player who didn't make varsity his first try and became a pretty decent player.


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[James40]

No they won't. No offense, but you really haben't a clue what the FO is trying to do in Boston, understandably so, you dont live in Boston..vice versa for me.

Jaylen will develop into a solid player. He's had like 5 20 point games off the bench. Your assessment of the teams future is pretty wrong. You'll see in 5 years. This team is not building to compete with Cleveland and GS. They are trying to get better each year while the main objec building for the post Cleveland GS era.

And there is no evidence either of our young talents will amount to anything. Like it or not, you will have to get through us in 5-7 years. it will be pretty fun.

Keep on getting early picks who sit the bench, good for them and when they have the 2025 number 2 pick in the draft while getting eliminated in the 2nd round of the playoffs in 2024, will their fans still be like "we're building for the future" lol.

They can trade picks and still have some left over for the future, or they can sit still, draft guys to sit the bench, and watch the Sixers pass them by.

Super teams are here to stay, good luck winning anything in the NBA w/o having 2 of the top 5 players in the game. Stevens has that team of good players playing great basketball, but that isn't winning anymore in the NBA.

I understand the Celtics trade and see the angle where they actually got more value in the trade. But I don't agree that Celts is eyeing the post Cavs-Gsw era for the same reason that their current roster played a big part on the deal.

If Celts is eyeing post Cavs-GSW, they would hold unto Fultz and disregard fit or needs. And not look into trading or signing for the usual suspects (blake, hayward and etc.) and not giving big paychecks to Horford and IT.

If you ask me.. I think Celts is forcing their way to compete with GSW-Cavs EVERY SEASON. The way they hoard assets while building present winning role players reminds me of that time Ainge consolidate Gerald Green, Al Jefferson, picks and etc. that he eventually shipped for the big 3. And I do think he's trying to pull something similar.

He needs to sooner than later, they have enough to compete with them now, (asset wise) plus post Cavs/Warriors.

[OleSchool]

If you ask me.. I think Celts is forcing their way to compete with GSW-Cavs EVERY SEASON. The way they hoard assets while building present winning role players reminds me of that time Ainge consolidate Gerald Green, Al Jefferson, picks and etc. that he eventually shipped for the big 3. And I do think he's trying to pull something similar.

Im sure he is but Billy King doesn't have a GM job and I don't think McHale will be getting another FO job anytime soon.


By the way I don't really blame King for that trade. I really believe that came from Prokov to win at all costs. Its just unfortunate that King was the GM at the time. Kings's problem (overpaying) wasn't trading or drafting. It was signing FA's to ridiculous long term, high $ contracts.

say hi Kenny Thomas

[76ciology]

If you ask me.. I think Celts is forcing their way to compete with GSW-Cavs EVERY SEASON. The way they hoard assets while building present winning role players reminds me of that time Ainge consolidate Gerald Green, Al Jefferson, picks and etc. that he eventually shipped for the big 3. And I do think he's trying to pull something similar.

Im sure he is but Billy King doesn't have a GM job and I don't think McHale will be getting another FO job anytime soon.


By the way I don't really blame King for that trade. I really believe that came from Prokov to win at all costs. Its just unfortunate that King was the GM at the time. Kings's problem (overpaying) wasn't trading or drafting. It was signing FA's to ridiculous long term, high $ contracts.

say High Kenny Thomas

Ainge's got 8 picks in the next two drafts. If you ask me, I'd go hard for 2-3 of..
1.) westbrook
2.) demarcus cousins or AD
3.) jimmy butler
4.) Paul George

He made a big mistake with Horford that I don't think he can afford to pay max for IT,Hayward or Griffin.

[Cheatergriffin]

Anyone know when the markelle grew to 6'8 over the summer posts will pop up?

[Cheatergriffin]

If you ask me.. I think Celts is forcing their way to compete with GSW-Cavs EVERY SEASON. The way they hoard assets while building present winning role players reminds me of that time Ainge consolidate Gerald Green, Al Jefferson, picks and etc. that he eventually shipped for the big 3. And I do think he's trying to pull something similar.

Im sure he is but Billy King doesn't have a GM job and I don't think McHale will be getting another FO job anytime soon.


By the way I don't really blame King for that trade. I really believe that came from Prokov to win at all costs. Its just unfortunate that King was the GM at the time. Kings's problem (overpaying) wasn't trading or drafting. It was signing FA's to ridiculous long term, high $ contracts.

say High Kenny Thomas

Ainge's got 8 picks in the next two drafts. If you ask me, I'd go hard for 2-3 of..
1.) westbrook
2.) demarcus cousins or AD
3.) jimmy butler
4.) Paul George

He made a big mistake with Horford that I don't think he can afford to pay max for IT,Hayward or Griffin.

Ainge should forreal just godfather the Pels for anthony davis and cousins. New orleans would have to look hard in the mirror to say no if he made the kindve offer he potentially could.

Edit* or jus go after AD and max hayward. Im not a big horford fan is reason id check in on boogie too.

[OleSchool]

If you ask me.. I think Celts is forcing their way to compete with GSW-Cavs EVERY SEASON. The way they hoard assets while building present winning role players reminds me of that time Ainge consolidate Gerald Green, Al Jefferson, picks and etc. that he eventually shipped for the big 3. And I do think he's trying to pull something similar.

Im sure he is but Billy King doesn't have a GM job and I don't think McHale will be getting another FO job anytime soon.


By the way I don't really blame King for that trade. I really believe that came from Prokov to win at all costs. Its just unfortunate that King was the GM at the time. Kings's problem (overpaying) wasn't trading or drafting. It was signing FA's to ridiculous long term, high $ contracts.

say High Kenny Thomas

Ainge's got 8 picks in the next two drafts. If you ask me, I'd go hard for 2-3 of..
1.) westbrook
2.) demarcus cousins or AD
3.) jimmy butler
4.) Paul George

He made a big mistake with Horford that I don't think he can afford to pay max for IT,Hayward or Griffin.

Yeah but I don't think he will, he should but he won't. He's great at trading and accumulating the assets but I think he views them as his children and won't part with them. Plus Bos is a good team without making any moves and he can always sell the "well it's the Cavs and GSW league right now so we're just going to sit back and wait for them to get older" line. Add that to the the job security he has and I don't think he feels any real pressure to move his assets.

I also don't think AD or Cousins are on the block right now. Or should I say, what it would take to pry one of them away is cost prohibitive. I also don't think OKC is moving Westbrook till he's at the end of his prime. Not with the whole Durant thing hanging over them

[long range bomber]

AD is not going nowhere anytime soon.. he is under contract long term and is an ALLNBA 1st teamer.

[CoreyGallagher]

“I play with great players all the time, so whatever [Simmons] needs me to do,” Fultz told reporters in Philadelphia on Saturday. “If I’m running the floor or I’m setting the screen for him or giving it back, it doesn’t matter. I’ll be a great teammate. If that’s me on the bench clapping for him, it doesn’t matter to me.”

Think he's going to fit right in.