All things Draft Pick. #3

[Slartibartfast]

Apropos of nothing, but you have the weirdest set of favorite sports teams I've ever seen.

Mine are kind of odd until you get to the end and see UConn. But yours make me think you threw darts at a map!

Yes, UCLA, Phx Suns, Cubs, Bucks and Islanders?

Though I have wondered often about Smitty being a Celtics, Patriots and Yankees fan, even though he explained it once.

His childhood friend's family were diehard NY fans and his family wasn't into baseball I believe. It's funny how many here have mixed teams. I mean, people often wonder about me and the Fins. But, like Smitty, it goes back to childhood and I am die hard, all in fan.

I'm pretty much Celtics only now, but I had a smorgasbord of favorite teams growing up. My parents were transplants who couldn't have cared less about pro sports, so my only gateway to sports was my much older half-brother who had a bunch of random swag.

So I basically picked all my favorite teams as a 5 year old picking logos and cool team names. Celtics, White Sox, Steelers and Penguins.

[JJtheBricklayer]

https://sports.yahoo.com/danny-ainge-puts-legacy-line-passing-markelle-fultz-153425097.html

Is a blockbuster, player-heavy deal in the offing? As of now, league sources told The Vertical that isn’t the case. Boston – everyone, really – would love to get its hands on Anthony Davis. But Davis is tied to a manageable contract through 2021, and the Pelicans appear committed to giving the Davis-DeMarcus Cousins pairing a full season together.

Jimmy Butler? Boston’s already overflowing chest of assets should have been enough for the Celtics to make a competitive offer. Paul George? With no guarantee of re-signing, any offer, Boston’s included, will be quarters on the dollar.

Mannix is being a bit emo with this article... Ainge's legacy was cemented when he made the KG/Ray Allen deals and won the 17th banner. Then Danny further compounded it with the Brooklyn heist, which will likely go down as one if the most lopsided trades ever. This deal is fascinating, and a bit soul crushing because this was the first time that the Celtics had lottery luck, but people are getting too caught up in the moment. That's why it's important to have a GM like DA to keep his hand steady on the wheel. Clearly, there is something about Fultz that doesn't click with Ainge, Zarren, and Brad, those are three highly intelligent basketball minds who definitely don't care what the media or Joe Public thinks. They have more basketball knowledge than any of us. It's time to take a deep breath and wait for the season to roll around.

Its probably his ability to hit a jump shot, Danny seems to hate that

[BRUNiNHO91]

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The Celtics will also get at least one future first-round pick from Philadelphia, believed at present to be the unprotected 2018 first-rounder the 76ers will receive next year from the Lakers

HUGE IF TRUE, but it's not. Aldridge got it wrong... again.

I actually like that 2-5 protection thing. Makes sure you get a good deal next year and if not then it rolls over to an even better deal instead of leaving you stuck with the 7th or 8th pick if that was to happen. This is actually good protection IMO, judging the Lakers situation there's enough talent there for them to be much better than 5 or 6 teams. Sacramento though..them dudes will be picking top 3 for the next 4 years..I bet Ainge wanted the Sacramento pick all along and this was the only way he could try to get it.

[TheMartian]

I'm offering #3 to Sacramento for #5 and #10. If Vlade bites, I'm taking the 6-11 Isaac with #5 and with #10 I'm taking Ntilikina. If I absolutely need more cap space, I can stash Ntilikina (the youngest player in the draft) somewhere in Europe for a year. If the Knicks take Ntilikina with #8 I'm taking the insanely long Jarrett Allen with #10 and stashing him in China for a year. Or Anigbogu, another very long kid with high upside.

If Vlade passes, I'm taking Tatum with #3.

I could be on board with this as well.

On a side note, any chance there is an athletic gem like Giannis hidden in the draft waiting to be discovered? Seems like gambling on athletic freaks pays off in the end.

[canman1971]

I'm offering #3 to Sacramento for #5 and #10. If Vlade bites, I'm taking the 6-11 Isaac with #5 and with #10 I'm taking Ntilikina. If I absolutely need more cap space, I can stash Ntilikina (the youngest player in the draft) somewhere in Europe for a year. If the Knicks take Ntilikina with #8 I'm taking the insanely long Jarrett Allen with #10 and stashing him in China for a year. Or Anigbogu, another very long kid with high upside.

If Vlade passes, I'm taking Tatum with #3.

I could be on board with this as well.

On a side note, any chance there is an athletic gem like Giannis hidden in the draft waiting to be discovered? Seems like gambling on athletic freaks pays off in the end.

Kedrick Brown sends his regards

[ParticleMan]

https://sports.yahoo.com/danny-ainge-puts-legacy-line-passing-markelle-fultz-153425097.html

Mannix is being a bit emo with this article... Ainge's legacy was cemented when he made the KG/Ray Allen deals and won the 17th banner. Then Danny further compounded it with the Brooklyn heist, which will likely go down as one if the most lopsided trades ever. This deal is fascinating, and a bit soul crushing because this was the first time that the Celtics had lottery luck, but people are getting too caught up in the moment. That's why it's important to have a GM like DA to keep his hand steady on the wheel. Clearly, there is something about Fultz that doesn't click with Ainge, Zarren, and Brad, those are three highly intelligent basketball minds who definitely don't care what the media or Joe Public thinks. They have more basketball knowledge than any of us. It's time to take a deep breath and wait for the season to roll around.

Its probably his ability to hit a jump shot, Danny seems to hate that

or the fact that in a conference where being a .500 team gets you into the postseason, he couldn't even lead his team to double digit wins.

i gotta admit, this always bothered me about fultz. there's something about winning that's different than losing.

[hickfromfrenchlick]

So if the Lakers end up getting the #1 overall pick next year, Philly gets to keep it and add to their core.

How exactly is that good for the Celtics?

Please explain, I'd love to hear from a "credible" poster....

Seriously? That's not the good part. The good part is that we roll it over if it's 6-30. Get it now? Yes, it would be better if it was 1-5 protected but it's mostly in our favor.

Mostly.

But it isn't square in our favor. We had the #1 pick. We had the leverage and yet still, you're sitting here trying to do backflips on how it's mostly in our favor.

If it wasn't IN OUR FAVOR, there was no necessity to make this deal right now, five days out from the draft, for this poopoo platter offer. You walk away with both SAC and LAL picks? Okay, you win Ainge. But this? Give me a break.

Please though, continue the spin.

I wasn't spinning. I was merely giving you facts that somehow eluded you. You claimed not to understand why the protection was overall positive. (The odds on the Lakers pick falling in the 6-30 range are exponentially higher than it landing at 1.) Now you do. You're welcome.

[Writebloc]

https://sports.yahoo.com/danny-ainge-puts-legacy-line-passing-markelle-fultz-153425097.html

Mannix is being a bit emo with this article... Ainge's legacy was cemented when he made the KG/Ray Allen deals and won the 17th banner. Then Danny further compounded it with the Brooklyn heist, which will likely go down as one if the most lopsided trades ever. This deal is fascinating, and a bit soul crushing because this was the first time that the Celtics had lottery luck, but people are getting too caught up in the moment. That's why it's important to have a GM like DA to keep his hand steady on the wheel. Clearly, there is something about Fultz that doesn't click with Ainge, Zarren, and Brad, those are three highly intelligent basketball minds who definitely don't care what the media or Joe Public thinks. They have more basketball knowledge than any of us. It's time to take a deep breath and wait for the season to roll around.

Its probably his ability to hit a jump shot, Danny seems to hate that

Too bad Fultz didn't display that ability in either of his workouts. Keep watching those YouTube clips though!

[Smitty731]

I'm offering #3 to Sacramento for #5 and #10. If Vlade bites, I'm taking the 6-11 Isaac with #5 and with #10 I'm taking Ntilikina. If I absolutely need more cap space, I can stash Ntilikina (the youngest player in the draft) somewhere in Europe for a year. If the Knicks take Ntilikina with #8 I'm taking the insanely long Jarrett Allen with #10 and stashing him in China for a year. Or Anigbogu, another very long kid with high upside.

If Vlade passes, I'm taking Tatum with #3.

I'm with you on the trade idea. The only part where it gets tricky is that Ntilikina isn't going to be stashed. His camp has made it very clear he is coming over this year.

And I'm also with you on drafting Tatum. I think he fits the team better than Jackson does.

[Fencer reregistered]

I do not believe he backed off the notorious "Brinks Truck" comment.

On the other hand, I think it's a rare Brinks truck that carries as much money as IT will get even in one year.

[Smitty731]

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The Celtics will also get at least one future first-round pick from Philadelphia, believed at present to be the unprotected 2018 first-rounder the 76ers will receive next year from the Lakers

HUGE IF TRUE, but it's not. Aldridge got it wrong... again.

My guess is that what is meant is that the pick to PHI is unprotected from LAL. PHI is then adding the protections when they flip it to Boston. We'll know for certain when it all goes official tomorrow.

[BigTrade92]

Seriously? That's not the good part. The good part is that we roll it over if it's 6-30. Get it now? Yes, it would be better if it was 1-5 protected but it's mostly in our favor.

Mostly.

But it isn't square in our favor. We had the #1 pick. We had the leverage and yet still, you're sitting here trying to do backflips on how it's mostly in our favor.

If it wasn't IN OUR FAVOR, there was no necessity to make this deal right now, five days out from the draft, for this poopoo platter offer. You walk away with both SAC and LAL picks? Okay, you win Ainge. But this? Give me a break.

Please though, continue the spin.

I wasn't spinning. I was merely giving you facts that somehow eluded you. You claimed not to understand why the protection was overall positive. Now you do. You're welcome.

You think it's mostly positive. I think it's terrible.

If you make this trade, you do it without protection and you get the SAC pick too. Otherwise, Philly can go **** themselves.

We're helping them so that we may get a shot at a top pick in 2019? And that's just as long as the Lakers don't suck next season, which they will. Is that a joke?

We have the freakin top pick RIGHT NOW and the consensus top pick is viewed as a stud. You pick Fultz and thank Red above for the good fortune, unless Philly completely meets your terms.

But this? This is a fleecing and it's not in our favor.

[greenroom31]

Pretty good summary/recap of the situation from Jay King:

Read on Twitter

[CeltsfaninDC]

viewtopic.php?p=36301045#p36301045

Tee hee hee.

Look at the one directly above it

[TheMartian]

I'm offering #3 to Sacramento for #5 and #10. If Vlade bites, I'm taking the 6-11 Isaac with #5 and with #10 I'm taking Ntilikina. If I absolutely need more cap space, I can stash Ntilikina (the youngest player in the draft) somewhere in Europe for a year. If the Knicks take Ntilikina with #8 I'm taking the insanely long Jarrett Allen with #10 and stashing him in China for a year. Or Anigbogu, another very long kid with high upside.

If Vlade passes, I'm taking Tatum with #3.

I could be on board with this as well.

On a side note, any chance there is an athletic gem like Giannis hidden in the draft waiting to be discovered? Seems like gambling on athletic freaks pays off in the end.

Kedrick Brown sends his regards

Lol.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Wouldn't make sense for Ainge to deal the #3 to Chicago, when he reportedly was putting protections on the 2017 BKN pick at the trade dealine...

[Marley2Hendrix]

I've read maybe 70 percent of the various threads since the trade emerged, so forgive me if this was discussed elsewhere?

What do folks think about a potential #3 for Porzingas swap? Do you do it if NYK is up for it? I would think NYK only does the trade if Ball falls to 3.

[Fencer reregistered]

there's something about winning that's different than losing.

May I quote you on that?

[RussellandFlow]

Can you even stash a U.S player taken in the 1st rd overseas? It's one thing to have them in the G-League for a year to develop but I'd be surprised if Jarrett Allen's agent would agree to have his client stashed in China for a year.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

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The Celtics will also get at least one future first-round pick from Philadelphia, believed at present to be the unprotected 2018 first-rounder the 76ers will receive next year from the Lakers

HUGE IF TRUE, but it's not. Aldridge got it wrong... again.

My guess is that what is meant is that the pick to PHI is unprotected from LAL. PHI is then adding the protections when they flip it to Boston. We'll know for certain when it all goes official tomorrow.

Smitty how do you feel about​ this trade?