Mavericks 2017 Draft #9

[agentofatlas]

Let's say both Smith and Ntilikina is gone. Do you think it's possible to trade Harris and 9th pick to Minny for Dunn, Dieng and Jones? Both Dunn and Jones are young PG. But Dieng is a proven big. He's solid statelines as starter for Minny. I think he's one of the better value coming back for the 9th pick. Jones is also underrated. He's 9PPG and 7APG per 36 mins. Dunn's a project. He's the same tool and same problem with Ntilikina. His value is as low as a second rounder I think.

I think you keep the 9th pick and draft whoever is left whether that be Monk, Collins, Mithcell Lauri etc.

[k-lynch201]

Let's say both Smith and Ntilikina is gone. Do you think it's possible to trade Harris and 9th pick to Minny for Dunn, Dieng and Jones? Both Dunn and Jones are young PG. But Dieng is a proven big. He's solid statelines as starter for Minny. I think he's one of the better value coming back for the 9th pick. Jones is also underrated. He's 9PPG and 7APG per 36 mins. Dunn's a project. He's the same tool and same problem with Ntilikina. His value is as low as a second rounder I think.

I think you keep the 9th pick and draft whoever is left whether that be Monk, Collins, Mithcell Lauri etc.

In this scenario youre assuming the Wolves have taken a PG?

Its doubtful, cause I dont see them parting with Dunn, more likely they would trade Rubio..I see Orlando or Minny drafting Monk, Minny especially has a SG need and he would slide right into that young core.

With Jonathan Isaac's rising up draft boards, we may get lucky enough to land Smith or Ntilikina..

If Orlando passes on a PG I like our chances..

[Mr B]

Im not a fan of giving up assets on asset depleted taking then subsequently paying potentially 25m a year to an injury plagued role playing big that hasnt averaged 30mpg in his career

Dude 2nd round picks are lucky if they make it in the D-league. Noel has DPOY potential and was a top 5 pick. You realize that Tyson Chandler was injury prone too before the Mavs traded for him right? And at some point you have to pay for talent. Would you rather they sign some scrubass big man just because he cheap? Maybe you'd be happy if they let Noel walk and they just resign Mejri because he's cheap. In the Carlisle's offense the center doesn't need to be Hakeem or Shaq and score 30 a game. In Carlisle's offense they need their big man to be a rim protector and throw down the occasional lob, which is exactly what Noel is. I personally have no problem maxing out Noel. This team needs talent and talent cost money.

Tyson also wasnt on a max contract and had a history of being a productive player is also bigger and more physical than noel, he's really a positionless player too small to be a center and not skilled enough to be a pf. I dont mimd paying for talent but paying spending half the cap on 2 guys that will never be all stars is a recipe for disaster

Not at the same agent Tyson wasn't a more productive and bigger player. He was rail thin and injury prone. In fact Noel is actually more athletic and has better hands than Tyson. Other than that they are very similar players. All of this is really moot though because the fact is they ARE going to resign him. So regardless of how you feel about him he's going to be a Mav for quite a while.

[Mr B]

Let's say both Smith and Ntilikina is gone. Do you think it's possible to trade Harris and 9th pick to Minny for Dunn, Dieng and Jones? Both Dunn and Jones are young PG. But Dieng is a proven big. He's solid statelines as starter for Minny. I think he's one of the better value coming back for the 9th pick. Jones is also underrated. He's 9PPG and 7APG per 36 mins. Dunn's a project. He's the same tool and same problem with Ntilikina. His value is as low as a second rounder I think.

I think you keep the 9th pick and draft whoever is left whether that be Monk, Collins, Mithcell Lauri etc.

That's what I'm expecting they will do. I would be very surprised if they traded the pick.

[Pinkyring]

Dude 2nd round picks are lucky if they make it in the D-league. Noel has DPOY potential and was a top 5 pick. You realize that Tyson Chandler was injury prone too before the Mavs traded for him right? And at some point you have to pay for talent. Would you rather they sign some scrubass big man just because he cheap? Maybe you'd be happy if they let Noel walk and they just resign Mejri because he's cheap. In the Carlisle's offense the center doesn't need to be Hakeem or Shaq and score 30 a game. In Carlisle's offense they need their big man to be a rim protector and throw down the occasional lob, which is exactly what Noel is. I personally have no problem maxing out Noel. This team needs talent and talent cost money.

Tyson also wasnt on a max contract and had a history of being a productive player is also bigger and more physical than noel, he's really a positionless player too small to be a center and not skilled enough to be a pf. I dont mimd paying for talent but paying spending half the cap on 2 guys that will never be all stars is a recipe for disaster

Not at the same agent Tyson wasn't a more productive and bigger player. He was rail thin and injury prone. In fact Noel is actually more athletic and has better hands than Tyson. Other than that they are very similar players. All of this is really moot though because the fact is they ARE going to resign him. So regardless of how you feel about him he's going to be a Mav for quite a while.

Yep an overpaid one to go right along with barnes wes and powell

[Mr B]

Tyson also wasnt on a max contract and had a history of being a productive player is also bigger and more physical than noel, he's really a positionless player too small to be a center and not skilled enough to be a pf. I dont mimd paying for talent but paying spending half the cap on 2 guys that will never be all stars is a recipe for disaster

Not at the same agent Tyson wasn't a more productive and bigger player. He was rail thin and injury prone. In fact Noel is actually more athletic and has better hands than Tyson. Other than that they are very similar players. All of this is really moot though because the fact is they ARE going to resign him. So regardless of how you feel about him he's going to be a Mav for quite a while.

Yep an overpaid one to go right along with barnes wes and powell

I don't anticipate Wes and Powell will be on the team too much longer, 1 more year at most. Rebuilding isn't an overnight process. And like I said, you have to pay for talent. The Mavs are not going to have a top 3 pick for a while so they have to use the tools at their disposal to acquire talent.

[Mr B]

mike fisher ✭ (@fishsports)
6/17/17, 9:37 PM
#Mavs have had in-house talks about the trade availability of #Timberwolves PG Ricky Rubio - and about drafting PG Frank Ntilikina, too.

This is obviously very unlikely to happen. BUT if it did would the Mavs just play Ntilikina at SG?

[Mr B]

mike fisher ✭ (@fishsports)
6/17/17, 10:10 PM
I'm told #Magic loves Tatum + has Smith Jr. + ZCollins higher than most teams. #Mavs pipedream = ZCollins to ORL.

Another pipe dream for the Mavs... Collins to Orlando and Markkanen to the Wolves.

[k-lynch201]

mike fisher ✭ (@fishsports)
6/17/17, 10:10 PM
I'm told #Magic loves Tatum + has Smith Jr. + ZCollins higher than most teams. #Mavs pipedream = ZCollins to ORL.

Another pipe dream for the Mavs... Collins to Orlando and Markkanen to the Wolves.

Both are pipedreams. Taytum is likely top 5. Collins is likely outside the top 10.

Issac is a possibility to go to the Magic/Wolves, I think Monk is possible in that 6-8 pick range, too. Markannen can only hope...

Fingers crossed.

[Teffer10]

I honestly think it will come down to Monk or Ntilikina for us depending on which one NY plans to take.....my guess is Ntilikina is their guy.

[k-lynch201]

Frank Isola (NY sports) recently said if Frank is there at #8, he is their man.

Apparently theyve had scouts watching him for over a month.

[Texas Chuck]

mike fisher ✭ (@fishsports)
6/17/17, 9:37 PM
#Mavs have had in-house talks about the trade availability of #Timberwolves PG Ricky Rubio - and about drafting PG Frank Ntilikina, too.

This is obviously very unlikely to happen. BUT if it did would the Mavs just play Ntilikina at SG?

Frank probably isn't all that ready to play. So Rubio/Barea/Yogi/Curry would split most of the back court minutes with Harris figuring in there somewhere with Frank playing with the Legends a lot.

It's a one year issue with Harris likely gone, Yogi and Curry likely gone because Dallas won't want to overpay them. Then assuming Ntilikina is ready than yeah he plays some minutes next to Rubio which would certainly seem to fit.

[dirkforpres]

Was listening to Mike Fisher on air today and everyone was in agreement that Dennis Smith is the most likely pick, with Isaac going to Orlando, Monk going to Minny, Frank going to NY.

That would be totally fine with me

[JamesConway]

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[dirkforpres]

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Not a chance. Even if Indy knows he is a goner, they'll still be able to afford something richer for him than what we can offer.

[JamesConway]

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Not a chance. Even if Indy knows he is a goner, they'll still be able to afford something richer for him than what we can offer.

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[fattymcgee]

Let's say both Smith and Ntilikina is gone. Do you think it's possible to trade Harris and 9th pick to Minny for Dunn, Dieng and Jones? Both Dunn and Jones are young PG. But Dieng is a proven big. He's solid statelines as starter for Minny. I think he's one of the better value coming back for the 9th pick. Jones is also underrated. He's 9PPG and 7APG per 36 mins. Dunn's a project. He's the same tool and same problem with Ntilikina. His value is as low as a second rounder I think.

I think you keep the 9th pick and draft whoever is left whether that be Monk, Collins, Mithcell Lauri etc.

In this scenario youre assuming the Wolves have taken a PG?

Its doubtful, cause I dont see them parting with Dunn, more likely they would trade Rubio..I see Orlando or Minny drafting Monk, Minny especially has a SG need and he would slide right into that young core.

With Jonathan Isaac's rising up draft boards, we may get lucky enough to land Smith or Ntilikina..

If Orlando passes on a PG I like our chances..

T-Wolves fan here, I see a lot wrong in these two posts.
Thibbs wouldn't trade Dinn, Dieng aND Jones for the 9th.
Minny does not need SG help, Right now LaVine is starting there and Wiggins best position seems to be SG.
Because of the RealGM Rubio rumor I see a lot of you talking as if he's already on your team. I don't think you have anything we want other than draft picks. Doubt you'd give up 9 for Rubio. I don't see us as good trade partners.

[Teffer10]

T-Wolves fan here, I see a lot wrong in these two posts.
Thibbs wouldn't trade Dinn, Dieng aND Jones for the 9th.
Minny does not need SG help, Right now LaVine is starting there and Wiggins best position seems to be SG.
Because of the RealGM Rubio rumor I see a lot of you talking as if he's already on your team. I don't think you have anything we want other than draft picks. Doubt you'd give up 9 for Rubio. I don't see us as good trade partners.

I just don't see Rubio as a good fit in Carlisle's system and would be totally shocked if we make any attempt to acquire him.
Great player and young but Rick needs a decent shooter at the point.

[Pinkyring]

With pg a goner i definitely think that makes teague a goner too, id love him at a 4/70 if we draft frank and dump wes so a rotation of teague yogi frank seth get those 1/2 minutes

[Basketballmania]

With pg a goner i definitely think that makes teague a goner too, id love him at a 4/70 if we draft frank and dump wes so a rotation of teague yogi frank seth get those 1/2 minutes

If we sign Teague, we shouldn't draft Frank. The only combination of drafting Frank and add a vet PG is Rubio so Frank can learn from Rubio for 2 years and then take over.
What also bothers me with Teague is that he is 29 already...