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Official General Draft Thread 2: We've Only Just Begun

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Who are the Orlando Magic taking at 6?

De'Aaron Fox
1
1%
Malik Monk
6
5%
Jonathan Isaac
48
40%
Jayson Tatum
9
8%
Dennis Smith Jr.
44
37%
Frank Ntilikina
4
3%
Lauri Markkanen
5
4%
Other
1
1%
Trading It
1
1%
 
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Official General Draft Thread 2: We've Only Just Begun 

Post#1 » by SOUL » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:25 pm

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Post#2 » by Darth Magic » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:35 pm

Just cast my first vote for Issac. Why do i feel so dirty? :lol:
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Post#3 » by MagicFan101 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:41 pm

I think Fultz, Ball, Jackson and Fox going ahead of us is just about a lock.

My question is about Phoenix. After looking over their board it seems Jackson / Tatum are their favorites. Therefore, I believe Tatum is also likely to be off the board.

Isaac is my choice of who I believe Orlando will take based on assumptions above.
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Post#4 » by j-ragg » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:42 pm

I'd like Tatum if he's there but would be thrilled with DSJ.
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Post#5 » by basketballRob » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:44 pm

MagicFan101 wrote:I think Fultz, Ball, Jackson and Fox going ahead of us is just about a lock.

My question is about Phoenix. After looking over their board it seems Jackson / Tatum are their favorites. Therefore, I believe Tatum is also likely to be off the board.

Isaac is my choice of who I believe Orlando will take based on assumptions above.


Unless the Kings take Isaac. Then we have to choose between Smith, Monk, and Fox.
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Post#6 » by Gomagic44 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:49 pm

In response to the hive mind being right(as sarcasm), I disagreed with the hive mind every off season for the past 5 years. But in the end, they were right. I bought 2k in my delusion thinking we had an ok squad this year. We were rated horribly! How could this be!

Because we are horrible.

Try posting a trade of Elfrid on the trade board. No one wants to offer anything we think is reasonable.

Because our prospects generally suck.

Stop being in denial people. Henny was fired because the whole group was horrible. There are not many good things to look at on our current roster. I, like darth and gortatexpress have just burnt out of the belief mode.

I hold my breath for the new regime. But I'm not kidding myself when it comes to our squad. We are horrible. It's just reality.


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Post#7 » by Darth Magic » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:51 pm

basketballRob wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:I think Fultz, Ball, Jackson and Fox going ahead of us is just about a lock.

My question is about Phoenix. After looking over their board it seems Jackson / Tatum are their favorites. Therefore, I believe Tatum is also likely to be off the board.

Isaac is my choice of who I believe Orlando will take based on assumptions above.


Unless the Kings take Isaac. Then we have to choose between Smith, Monk, and Fox.


Don't think Fox is going past Sac
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Post#8 » by basketballRob » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:54 pm

Darth Magic wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
MagicFan101 wrote:I think Fultz, Ball, Jackson and Fox going ahead of us is just about a lock.

My question is about Phoenix. After looking over their board it seems Jackson / Tatum are their favorites. Therefore, I believe Tatum is also likely to be off the board.

Isaac is my choice of who I believe Orlando will take based on assumptions above.


Unless the Kings take Isaac. Then we have to choose between Smith, Monk, and Fox.


Don't think Fox is going past Sac


I hope not.
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Post#9 » by BN » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:58 pm

And another bump for Isaac before DSJ takes over.
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Post#10 » by Darth Magic » Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:59 pm

basketballRob wrote:
Darth Magic wrote:
basketballRob wrote:
Unless the Kings take Isaac. Then we have to choose between Smith, Monk, and Fox.


Don't think Fox is going past Sac


I hope not.


Same here :lol:
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Post#11 » by j-ragg » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:01 pm

Gomagic44 wrote:Because our prospects generally suck.

Stop being in denial people. Henny was fired because the whole group was horrible. There are not many good things to look at on our current roster. I, like darth and gortatexpress have just burnt out of the belief mode.

No issue with that. To be expected after 5 years of bottom feeding.

It's this weird Saric love I don't understand. But I'll patiently wait for it from his fan club on here.
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Post#12 » by SOUL » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:05 pm

Gomagic44 wrote:In response to the hive mind being right(as sarcasm), I disagreed with the hive mind every off season for the past 5 years. But in the end, they were right. I bought 2k in my delusion thinking we had an ok squad this year. We were rated horribly! How could this be!

Because we are horrible.

Try posting a trade of Elfrid on the trade board. No one wants to offer anything we think is reasonable.

Because our prospects generally suck.

Stop being in denial people. Henny was fired because the whole group was horrible. There are not many good things to look at on our current roster. I, like darth and gortatexpress have just burnt out of the belief mode.

I hold my breath for the new regime. But I'm not kidding myself when it comes to our squad. We are horrible. It's just reality.


The thing that bothers me most is selective arguments. Numbers always get dismissed for our players, but for anybody else like Booker or Saric context doesn't matter. For our players it's picked apart on what point of the season it was, who we were playing against, what exact player it was on, etc.

Also I read the Elfrid thread in the trade board and thought a number of the offers were fair, and actually hold more value for Elfrid than a lot of posters here have suggested (two second rounders).
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Post#13 » by pepe1991 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:46 pm

SOUL wrote:
Gomagic44 wrote:In response to the hive mind being right(as sarcasm), I disagreed with the hive mind every off season for the past 5 years. But in the end, they were right. I bought 2k in my delusion thinking we had an ok squad this year. We were rated horribly! How could this be!

Because we are horrible.

Try posting a trade of Elfrid on the trade board. No one wants to offer anything we think is reasonable.

Because our prospects generally suck.

Stop being in denial people. Henny was fired because the whole group was horrible. There are not many good things to look at on our current roster. I, like darth and gortatexpress have just burnt out of the belief mode.

I hold my breath for the new regime. But I'm not kidding myself when it comes to our squad. We are horrible. It's just reality.


The thing that bothers me most is selective arguments. Numbers always get dismissed for our players, but for anybody else like Booker or Saric context doesn't matter. For our players it's picked apart on what point of the season it was, who we were playing against, what exact player it was on, etc.

Also I read the Elfrid thread in the trade board and thought a number of the offers were fair, and actually hold more value for Elfrid than a lot of posters here have suggested (two second rounders).


After they draft Fultz, Šarić will be like 4th best 76ers player behind Embiid, Simmons and Fultz, tied with 4th with Covington.
Booker isn't even best Suns player, it's Eric Bledsoe.

Magic simply don't have talent. You have Payton and Gordon, on only few teams Payton would be starter, and all that teams are bottom feeders. Gordon is fine player but right now he is like Derrick Favors . Good player but nobody will build around him.
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Post#14 » by PrimeThyme » Sun Jun 18, 2017 8:56 pm

j-ragg wrote:I'd like Tatum if he's there but would be thrilled with DSJ.

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Post#15 » by cedric76 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:03 pm

Gomagic44 wrote:In response to the hive mind being right(as sarcasm), I disagreed with the hive mind every off season for the past 5 years. But in the end, they were right. I bought 2k in my delusion thinking we had an ok squad this year. We were rated horribly! How could this be!

Because we are horrible.

Try posting a trade of Elfrid on the trade board. No one wants to offer anything we think is reasonable.

Because our prospects generally suck.

Stop being in denial people. Henny was fired because the whole group was horrible. There are not many good things to look at on our current roster. I, like darth and gortatexpress have just burnt out of the belief mode.

I hold my breath for the new regime. But I'm not kidding myself when it comes to our squad. We are horrible. It's just reality.


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Post#17 » by Knightro » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:21 pm

Assuming Fultz/Ball/Jackson are all gone... my board for 6...

Isaac
Tatum
Smith Jr.

One of them is guaranteed to be there. I'm slowly warming to Smith Jr. being even with Tatum, but not quite there yet.
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Post#18 » by Darth Magic » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:30 pm

Knightro wrote:Assuming Fultz/Ball/Jackson are all gone... my board for 6...

Isaac
Tatum
Smith Jr.

One of them is guaranteed to be there. I'm slowly warming to Smith Jr. being even with Tatum, but not quite there yet.


It's amazing how views change as the draft draws closer. As of right now i am convinced we have better chance of drafting Ntilikina more than drafting DSJ. I'm so convinced that they are taking Issac if he is there it's almost a guarantee at this point lol
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Post#19 » by Magic_Johnny12 » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:33 pm

I feel we target a wing with our #6 pick and go best available available with our #25 and even might trade up if we fall in love with a player.

In this specific order for the #6
- Jackson
- Tatum
- Issac

We choose whoever is available out of Tatum/Issac.
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Post#20 » by basketballRob » Sun Jun 18, 2017 9:34 pm

Darth Magic wrote:
Knightro wrote:Assuming Fultz/Ball/Jackson are all gone... my board for 6...

Isaac
Tatum
Smith Jr.

One of them is guaranteed to be there. I'm slowly warming to Smith Jr. being even with Tatum, but not quite there yet.


It's amazing how views change as the draft draws closer. As of right now i am convinced we have better chance of drafting Ntilikina more than drafting DSJ. I'm so convinced that they are taking Issac if he is there it's almost a guarantee at this point lol


The problem is Phoenix fans are almost unanimously on the Isaac bandwagon too. Isaac could go as high as 3.

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